Miss Indestructible: Hayden Panettiere as Claire Bennet Character Discussion

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I don't even think the guy is dead, maybe really seriously injured yet, Claires dad is gonna have to do alot of covering up, and she will have to finally reveal whats going on with her (even though he already knows.) Quite a big twist indeed!

 

[ragdus]

It's actually getting a little annoying that every week she's getting killed and/or mangled. We get it, she doesn't die (easily).

 

[Donnie Darko]

people arguing that what she did was wrong/evil need to remember that this guy has raped other girls, will continue to do so, tried to rape her, in the process killed her, and then stripped her body and disposed of it in a river so no one would find it. The guy is a serial rapist and a murderer (although that was not entirely intentional, it was still his fault). Maybe, just maybe, had he shown some remorse for his rape, murder, and cover up, what she did would be a little bit wrong, but he didn't. Just think how you would react if someone tried to rape you, murdered you, threw your naked body in a river, then called you a **** instead of apologizing. ****, I wanted to kill the guy and I've only seen him on tv for like 15 minutes

 

[ragdus]

Don't be silly. She should have donned a mask, dragged him into a police station, stood tall with feet shoulder width apart and fists on her hips, and declared that no one person will ever undermine truth, justice, and the American way as long as she can do something about it!

 

[Morg]

that's for the courts to decide. if society starts deciding who lives and who dies that is one small step to anarchy and chaos.

morg I've been reading your posts, and I wont pretend to understand how you feel or what you've gone through but to just out and out kill people who break the law with no trail makes you no better than the criminals you punish.

there is a difference between justice and vengence

It's justice killing those punks(rapist) I wouldn't cry any tears killing one, hell I would be happy killing them all. I hate rapist, I have too many friends and family hurt by them, one was 6 years old girl. She still has problems with it even now at 30 years old. If I could go back in time I would kill the prick and damn will make it painful for him too.

BTW courts sucks, 3 of my cousins were raped and the courts pretty much raped them, damn lawyers gave them hell with the questions and the dude barely got 6 years for it even though two of them were minors. To hell with rapist

 

[Abaddon]

It's not like rapists are evil. They're just sick, sick, people who need to be eliminated from the gene pool.

 

[fangrl06]

^ Amen! You gotta think though, what would you do? If you knew you couldn't die, some guy tried something like that, and then you find out he's done it before. Its human nature to want revenge. Thats why I like her character. She's a real person. Its not common to see a teenage girl on TV act like a teenage girl.

Exactly. With the way Smallville portrays Lana, I think Claire is a breath of fresh air.

 

[Sean Adisano]

Claire is a revengeful girl...me likes it did you see her in the last episode, that quarterback got what he deserved.

i like that she's more of a darker type hero thingy.

 

[AnimeJune]

For the last time - I'm not saying this makes her an uninteresting character, or, necessarily, a bad person. I just think she did an evil thing. A lesser evil, maybe even a necessary evil.

Bombing Hiroshima was a necessary evil, but it was still evil - do you understand my point?

Morg thinks killing rapists would be great. For sure, in many cases it might be necessary, would help the victims heal, etc. etc.

But it would still be EVIL.

I'm not saying another teenager in similar circumstances wouldn't have done the same thing. I'm not saying that good might come of her actions. I'm not saying that she didn't have valid reasons. I'm saying what she did was EVIL.

Rapists? Evil as hell.

Murderers - also evil. This wasn't self-defence, or in defence of others. She sought him out. It was deliberate. In effect, isn't that what he did to his victims - sought them out with a deliberate purpose in mind, got them alone...?

Again, though, if you read the comics you know the guy survives, so this whole argument is moot, anyway.

 

[Morg]

AnimeJune, I take it you never seen what evil really does? I seen what rape does and murder and more. Killing those punks isn't evil. Hell, God did it so what works for Him....

and that's all I'm going to say about this.

 

[StorminNorman]

For the last time - I'm not saying this makes her an uninteresting character, or, necessarily, a bad person. I just think she did an evil thing. A lesser evil, maybe even a necessary evil.

Bombing Hiroshima was a necessary evil, but it was still evil - do you understand my point?

Morg thinks killing rapists would be great. For sure, in many cases it might be necessary, would help the victims heal, etc. etc.

But it would still be EVIL.

I'm not saying another teenager in similar circumstances wouldn't have done the same thing. I'm not saying that good might come of her actions. I'm not saying that she didn't have valid reasons. I'm saying what she did was EVIL.

Rapists? Evil as hell.

Murderers - also evil. This wasn't self-defence, or in defence of others. She sought him out. It was deliberate. In effect, isn't that what he did to his victims - sought them out with a deliberate purpose in mind, got them alone...?

Again, though, if you read the comics you know the guy survives, so this whole argument is moot, anyway.

Lets say Claire DID kill the kid (though the comic says he didn't).

June, I know you liked Batman Begins and that you like Batman. How is what Claire did ANY different than what Batman did to poor ol' Ras?

Batman set it up so that the train would explode.
Claire set it up so that the car would crash.

Batman knew what was going on and knew he had a way out.
Claire knew what was going on and knew she had a way out.

Batman saw that keeping Ras alive would mean that further people would risk attack.
Claire saw that the jackass would keep raping girls, lying about them, etc and that others were at risk.

Therefore Claire = Batman Begins Batman = Badass. :meow:

 

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In many perspectives though Claire is a klutz.

 

[The Question]

For the last time - I'm not saying this makes her an uninteresting character, or, necessarily, a bad person. I just think she did an evil thing. A lesser evil, maybe even a necessary evil.

But, that brings up the arguement: Is it possible for an action to be evil? Actions are nuetral in nature, I think. It's the intent behind the action that is good or evil.

Anyway, I think you're using the word evil far too loosely.

 

[xwolverine2]

Therefore Claire = Batman Begins Batman = Badass. :meow:

LOL!...

batman = Mr. Rogers

t:

 

[Angelus7181]

Claire did the right thing.. telling on him won't do any good and seeing how he dumped Claire in the river like a piece of trash and moved on to his next prey by the next episode.. any girl with her type of powers would have done the same thing or worse.

Claire is badass! t:

 

[Immortalfire]

Killing a rapist isn't evil, it's like putting a rabid dog down

 

[gambitfire]

Lets say Claire DID kill the kid (though the comic says he didn't).

June, I know you liked Batman Begins and that you like Batman. How is what Claire did ANY different than what Batman did to poor ol' Ras?

Batman set it up so that the train would explode.
Claire set it up so that the car would crash.

Batman knew what was going on and knew he had a way out.
Claire knew what was going on and knew she had a way out.

Batman saw that keeping Ras alive would mean that further people would risk attack.
Claire saw that the jackass would keep raping girls, lying about them, etc and that others were at risk.

Therefore Claire = Batman Begins Batman = Badass. :meow:

I like this logic it doesn't necessarily make you a killer, Batman took an oath to never kill something the movie in this sense did not overlook. Therefore neithe did Claire.

 

[Crowforge]

Hey, does this affect her future insurance rates?

 

[AnimeJune]

Lets say Claire DID kill the kid (though the comic says he didn't).

June, I know you liked Batman Begins and that you like Batman. How is what Claire did ANY different than what Batman did to poor ol' Ras?

Batman set it up so that the train would explode.
Claire set it up so that the car would crash.

Batman knew what was going on and knew he had a way out.
Claire knew what was going on and knew she had a way out.

Batman saw that keeping Ras alive would mean that further people would risk attack.
Claire saw that the jackass would keep raping girls, lying about them, etc and that others were at risk.

Therefore Claire = Batman Begins Batman = Badass. :meow:

An interesting point. I guess maybe the reason I'm so against what she did was because it was unexpected of her character. I went into Batman Begins knowing that it was a fantasy costumed-hero movie, and that Batman is a dark character, so I guess I suspended my moral disbelief for that movie.

An interesting way to think about it.

 

[The Question]

An interesting point. I guess maybe the reason I'm so against what she did was because it was unexpected of her character. I went into Batman Begins knowing that it was a fantasy costumed-hero movie, and that Batman is a dark character, so I guess I suspended my moral disbelief for that movie.

An interesting way to think about it.

It is unexpected, but it follows a natural progression. If you were killed by a rapist, came back to life, and found out that he's in fact a serial rapist, then you'd probably be pushed over the edge.

 

[fangrl06]

"Save the cheerleader, save the world"? Could this mean save her from herself?

 

[gambitfire]

Hey, does this affect her future insurance rates?

ROTFLMAO!!...........
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Not if she's with Progressive (I think), they have that forgivness policy.

I for one prefer the Gecko.

 

[gambitfire]

Is the guy in the car named Brody Mitchum because if it is then not only does he survive but he discovers her power, and judging from the 2 minute preview........he does.

interesting so far.

 

[fangrl06]

ROTFLMAO!!...........
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Not if she's with Progressive (I think), they have that forgivness policy.

I for one prefer the Gecko.

Progressive's "forgivness" policy is a bunch of crap. Only one person in your family is covered for 5 years in the forgivness policy and Geico isn't great either. They are a really cheap company and are only worth the low rates you pay them. I'd say the best bet is to go with Allstate, but that's just me. Anyway, I think Claire is the best character on Heroes. Her and Nikki, because they have major character flaws that make them likeable and human. I want to see more of Zach!

 

[gambitfire]

I like her but i don't think she's that flawed.

Issac's F*ing Flawed.

i like them all damit.


Except Nathan i like to hate him for now.