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Movies205's Review and Discussion Thread: Vol. 4 - Kingdom of Debauchery and Hackery!

To the Oldbies of the thread... My participation and maintenance of the thread will be sporadic at best since I'm taking 4 Summer Classes and managing a Summer Job along with whatever else I'm working on so patience on the updating of the first post :up:
 
'Kay.

Next review will be up in a little while, I hope.
 
Did they play the short film before it which is a short scene of Schwartzman and the girl he keeps talking about(played by Natalie Portman), its kind of lame if you ask me.

I haven't seen all of Anderson's films, I've seen Tenebaums and Aquatic. This seems to be departure in terms of narrative structure. Those two films were sprawling ensemble pieces centering on the actions of one character, in Tenebaums it is Hackman's character and in Aquatic it is on Murray's character. Darjeeling Limited seems to be much more focus on character development of three character in unison which is why it comes across as a lot slower than his other films since it doesn't rely on a host of different antics and different characters. Anderson's writing is masterful between the three characters, the subtle and not so subtle nuances of the brothers is hilarious and heartfelt.

Yeah they did, to my surprise. As a short film it's nothing special. But it was well shot and had good......well, fitting music. I'll consider it just a little prologue.

I haven't seen Rushmore in a very long time. So I don't remeber too much of it, thus I can't really place it specifically in the context of the rest of Anderson's work. I remember they used the word ''handjob'' alot though....:o

The Life Aquatic is still my favourite Anderson. And yes, it's because of Willem Dafoe. :p
 
Yeah they did, to my surprise. As a short film it's nothing special. But it was well shot and had good......well, fitting music. I'll consider it just a little prologue.

I haven't seen Rushmore in a very long time. So I don't remeber too much of it, thus I can't really place it specifically in the context of the rest of Anderson's work. I remember they used the word ''handjob'' alot though....:o

The Life Aquatic is still my favourite Anderson. And yes, it's because of Willem Dafoe. :p

The Dafoe is good, have you seen "Last Temptation of the Christ"?
 
I just wanted to add on how much I enjoy these reviews. Don't think for a second that no one is reading them. I appreciate the effort put into these, it's hard to translate one's thoughts effectively through print alone.

Some of you have a real talent for this type of stuff. Keep it up.
 
As usual I will posting my academic papers on film which are far deeper than reviews for they seek to question why film is the way it is, the first up is an informal paper written about Goddard's Weekend and Scorsese's Mean Street which I actually won an award for in a Film Festival and then what I feel is a weaker albeit expanded version of it that includes Mike Figgis' Time Code is attached to this post should you feel the need to read an even longer version:

THE GIBBERISH OF FILM

Mean Streets (1973) directed by Martin Scorsese and Weekend (1967) directed by Jean-Luc Goddard are not considered part of the punk aesthetic, yet both movies created a foundation for the punk cinema movement. Both the punk cinema movement and Godard’s Weekend are often received with puzzlement and bewilderment by mainstream audiences. On a superficial level, it could be postulated that it is the avant-garde cinematic techniques that these films employ such as jump cuts, natural lighting, long takes, diegetic sound, etc that cause the disconnect but this would be a superficial reasoning. On a deeper level, Weekend rejects the language of film that mainstream audiences know so well and creates its own. This paper juxtaposes Weekend and Mean Streets since both films have similar aesthetics yet the mainstream can accept Mean Streets. Mean Streets proves this thesis that it has less to do with the actual techniques but how they are presented. This paper seeks to understand the significance of the aesthetic in relation to the audience through two films, Weekend and Mean Streets.

Gibson and Hill’s book, Film Studies, Critical Approach, offers two insights as to the audience role in relation to film. The first theory being that a set of images portrayed on screen could alter the mindset of the viewer. The second theory, “meaning is not inherent in the filmic signs or texts themselves but is constructed by spectators in accordance with certain context-dependent conventions.” (201) Goddard’s and Scorsese films are coming out more than half a century after the creation of film which is significant because by this time a language of cinema has been established. The simple act of the cut for example holds meaning only because of the context that the audience attaches to it. By 1963, there are rules now set in the audience mind and Godard is completely aware of that when he makes film. Goddard seeks to liberate his audience from being controlled by creating a new “language” which is what makes the audience feel uncomfortable.

Weekend’s aesthetic is made of natural lighting, jump cuts, diegetic sound, long takes, and tracking shots. The term “natural lighting”, at least in terms of this essay, refers to a shift from the highly stylized or dramatic lighting of Hollywood film to a stable lighting scheme. A stable lighting scheme is a disruption to the language of cinema because the lighting no longer serves to inform the audience of the plot. The audience’s context of lighting in cinema has become so sophisticated that an audience member can distill who a character is by the choice in lighting schemes. The most recognizable of which would be the classic three key lighting on the female lead who is the damsel in distress. The lighting’s only purpose in Weekend is to be lit properly so the audience can clearly see the action going on in the frame. Weekend’s use of “natural lighting” thus is a technique that forces the audience to think for they have to come to their own conclusion. This goes hand in hand with the narrative of the film which also does not inform the audience how they should feel. The audience’s knowledge of the language of cinema has been rendered completely useless. Similar arguments can be made for Goddard’s use of diegetic and nondiegetic sound, jump cuts, and long takes.

The stuck in traffic scene in Weekend illustrates perfectly the idea that Goddard is terrorizing the audience by playing with the language of cinema. The scene incorporates natural lighting, an inordinate amount of diegetic sound, and is a severely long take, seven minutes to be exact. The camera tracks along as it follow the two protagonists stuck in traffic. The choice of the long take is highly pragmatic to an audience member as it does not provide a focus for the audience. The significance of this is that it is giving complete control to the audience member to choose what they focus on. It is important to note that the VCR would not catch on for more than a decade later. Audience members were at the complete mercy of the director since they could not pause, rewind, or fast-forward as they were most likely watching the film in a theatre. Goddard’s complete control over the audience is masterful for he has complete control of his frame. Every frame of this scene is carefully constructed and littered with various elements whether it is a traveling zoo or two people passing a beach ball. With so many elements going on the tracking makes it akin to that of a slideshow.

The slideshow is a reflection of the various facets of humanity. Throughout the entire tracking shot various actions are taking place. Each element becomes a slide and each slide is a quick look into humanity. This is hard for the mainstream audience to understand since their context informs them that any character introduced needs to be developed further in the plot. However these aren’t characters that the audiences are witnessing but regular people and the audience has no idea how to respond. The various “slides” are all things that happen every day in life from people fixing cars or to horrible accidents on the side of the road. The audience has now become a member of the car, more effectively than any traditional Hollywood filmmaking could ever produce. The audience is “stuck in traffic” in a metaphorical sense for their context informs them that the movie should be moving along but it isn’t. The two protagonists are completely apathetic to the world around them in much the same way the audience has become. Goddard’s use of camera techniques is playing with the audience’s own context of film and thus completely recreates the experience that Goddard’s is trying to connect with the audience.

The second scene this essay shall focus on is when the two protagonists stop on the side of the road and the female protagonist is raped in a ditch. The scene is set up in a very similar fashion to the other scene analyzed for it relies on the very same film techniques. This scene is so perfectly set up, e.g. cars moving and stopping in exactly the right place within the frame that it flaunts its knowledge that the audience exists. It completely changes the value the audience attaches to “rape” in the context of the scene. The camera never focuses on the rape and the only evidence of it is diegetic sound. The audience usually relies on camera angles to tell them that this is a sad or tragic scene to reinforce the cultural values they have brought to be validated. Goddard’s techniques do not create a “realistic” setting, it creates a setting in which he forces the viewer to create his/her own meaning. The importance of this scene is the frightening notion that the audience can not feel sympathy unless told to feel sympathy and perhaps this is what makes Godard’s film so unsettling to audiences.

Mean Streets (1973) adapts the idea of natural lighting but conforms it to the mean streets of New York during the seventies. This creates a vastly different aesthetic thus creating an interesting quagmire to the idea of natural light. Even with natural light the director still has control over how his film will look from the type of film stock he uses to the actual location. One scene in particular that illustrates this is early on in the film and takes place in a bar. The over-all picture is marked by a red tint which is a product of the setting however it serves to underscore the seediness of the location. The film is similar to the style Goddard employs in Weekend however nowhere near as drastic. Scorsese employs similar long takes and tracking shots however gives the audience a chance to breathe with a healthy amount of cuts in between. The beginning of the scene begins with a tracking shot of the bar providing a similar snap shot of humanity to weekend’s tracking shots. It works here for mainstream audiences because the characters fit nicely into the language of cinema they know so well. The techniques Godard used to buck the system are now being use to reinforce the cultural values of the audience hence why it works so well. The importance is that the very techniques Goddard had created to defy the language of cinema have been, within less than a decade, assimilated into the lexicon of cinema audiences.

The second scene that’ll be analyzed is between the protagonist and his secret lover. It utilizes a sequence of jump cuts with the main purpose of truncating time. It begins with the protagonist watching his secret lover undress from his room then it cuts directly to them lying in bed. The scene is different from the previous because instead of long takes it is filled with a barrage of jump cuts and creates the effect of montage. The sequence is made up of a variety of shots that alternate between extreme close up, close up, medium shot, and long shot. Again this is not disorienting to the mainstream audience because it easily followed by the fact that its reinforcing classical archetypes that the audience can identify with. Mean Streets represents the bridge between obscure and mainstream.

Individual scenes can be picked apart from Mean Streets however it’s the whole of the narrative that this paper is interested in. For as the individual scenes have demonstrated Mean Streets uses many of the “avante-garde” techniques that Goddard used yet is far more accessible to film audiences. The reason for this is that that narrative is relatively standard to that of movie goers with a tinge of ambiguity. There is a protagonist, antagonists, and various obstacles that the protagonist must over-come. The techniques that Goddard had used to break the language of cinema are being used by Scorsese to reinforce. Not only does Mean Streets have a narrative structure familiar to that of the audience but it represents many mainstream audience’s core values, Western-Christian.

These details do not make Mean Streets a bad film however it proves the mainstream audience’s need for structure and character. It proves that it is not the style of Goddard that’s putting people off but something far deeper set in his movies. The mainstream is willing to accept jump cuts, long takes, natural lighting, etc as long as it provides some type of outlet for them to validate their own moral values and context they bring. The juxtaposition of Weekend and Mean Streets shows that these techniques, no matter how far out, can be used as long as it can be placed in some type context by the audience.
 

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Inside
Directors:Julien Maury, Alexandre Bustillo
Rating:8/10

Well, I guess I can start off this review by saying that this is solid proof that European Horror and it's directors are so far ahead of us Americans when it comes to the horror genre. While our studios are continuing to crank out remakes and basically recycling stuff that have sat in the can for years, it's the European filmmakers who are out there whipping up new and imaginative ideas like they usually do.

From French directing duo, Alexandre Bustillo and Julien Maury, comes "Inside." A film that exploits a subject that surely has to be any mother's nightmare, which is having their child taken away from them. Now, I suppose that this would be hard for any mother, regardless the age of the child, but it has to be that much harder when the child is still in womb. In the film, we watch the main character go through the trauma of losing her husband to a crash. After the aftermath of the situation, she still keeps her sanity, just knowing that a piece of him remains, in the form of their unborn. What the directors do here is wreck that sanity she has left, and they do it brutally. There is a mysterious woman hell bent on claiming Sarah's baby as her own. Whether she has to kill Sarah or just blatantly extract it from her womb, she is bound to finally become a mother herself.

"Inside" is definitely a thrill ride from the beginning to end. It's one of those "you'll never see what's coming next" kind of films. I must say that the realistic gore in the film is just fantastic and brutal and it adds more tension to an already intense situation. But the fact of the matter is that through the course of this film we watch an innocent woman(Sarah) go through absolute hell, while fighting to keep her and her beloved child alive.

The production value and direction here are great and really capture all of the tense moments. For the most part, the film has but only one location, which is Sarah's house. I have always said that the one location set could be a disaster. But if it's handled correctly, a primary set could be the best thing to happen to a film. In the case of "Inside," having one location works out very well as it conveys the feeling of being trapped from the point of view of our victim. And like many films of the same type, you do expect everything to dull down after awhile. But truth is, once this film gets to the subject of it's plot, there are very few dull moments. The special effects alone are enough to have you glued to your seat. Everything just works in this film. The cinematography is excellent, crisp editing, wonderful acting from the film's two leads, brilliant practical and visual effects, good direction, and just great overall tension built throughout the film.

"Inside" is an extremely violent, brutal film. It's a film that isn't for the faint of heart, because of its realistic violence and gore. And trust me, there's a lot of gore.
 
Excellent essay, movies. I'll certainly give the longer one a read a bit later.

So, which of the two endings of "The Abyss" does everyone prefer? I've always loved the 'deleted version,' myself - beautiful.
 
Excellent essay, movies. I'll certainly give the longer one a read a bit later.

So, which of the two endings of "The Abyss" does everyone prefer? I've always loved the 'deleted version,' myself - beautiful.

Its been a couple of years since I watch the Abyss but I believe I watched the director's cut. What's the deleted version? The one I watched has the aliens from the abyss sending tidal waves all over the earth and then come out of their ships on to the mainland. I really need to watch that film again its my favorite James Cameron film next to original Terminator.
 
Its been a couple of years since I watch the Abyss but I believe I watched the director's cut. What's the deleted version? The one I watched has the aliens from the abyss sending tidal waves all over the earth and then come out of their ships on to the mainland. I really need to watch that film again its my favorite James Cameron film next to original Terminator.

That is indeed the deleted version - the theatrical ending simply has the aliens return Bud and his crewmates to the surface, and that's that.
 
That is indeed the deleted version - the theatrical ending simply has the aliens return Bud and his crewmates to the surface, and that's that.

Lame :oldrazz: I'm not a huge James Cameron fan to be honest. Alien > Aliens for me. True Lies has some great action set pieces but is bogged down by its self-indulgence/tongue in cheek as well as miss casting of Arnold. Terminator 2 is great and all but 1 is better. And Titanic, need I say more?
 
Lame :oldrazz: I'm not a huge James Cameron fan to be honest. Alien > Aliens for me. True Lies has some great action set pieces but is bogged down by its self-indulgence/tongue in cheek as well as miss casting of Arnold. Terminator 2 is great and all but 1 is better. And Titanic, need I say more?


Spot on. :up:
 
No. Not yet anyway. That's Scorsese's right? In that case I'll have to check it out sometimes.

Yeah, he made it for Universal under the promise that he deliver them a more commercial movie next that being Cape Fear.
 
I'll add it to my ever-growing wishlist then... :p And by the way, isn't David Bowie in that flick to?
 
Ah, I see. But, I'm an atheist, do you think I could enjoy the film?

Depends... I mean I wouldn't say it overly religious, I believe it got Scorsese excommunicated from the church. Its an interesting movie on making Jesus more human and giving him temptation and wants.
 
Sorry, im kinda a noob but is this thread just used to rate movies and review em? Id like to give it a try :)
 
Ikiru (1952)
Director: Akira Kurosawa
Rating: 10/10

This is a humble film with the soul of an angel. It isn't about a life so much as it is about the act of living. This film, in its quiet way, asks us to ponder what makes life meaningful. And it argues that our pursuit of life's quantity is misplaced, because it leads to neglect of life's quality.It tells the story of a dying man's last days. Kanji Watanabe is a lifelong cog in a vast bureaucratic machine who has wasted his entire life shuffling papers. He is played by Takashi Shimura in one of the finest understated performances ever committed to film. Shot in black and white, it is melancholic, bleak and subdued. Likely, Kurosawa chose to film in black and white to reflect the starkness of the protagonist's last days; the way the world looks through dying eyes; and it works.

It is the mark of Kurosawa's genius how the story and the character sneak up on us. At first, Mr. Watanabe seems an uninspiring study, hardly worthy of our sympathy. A small meek fragile man, he almost stoops under the weight of his own life. He learns of his illness in a well-known opening scene that combines pathos with cruel irony, and before we know it, we start to care about this little man who life treads so callously underfoot. What at first looks like lack of courage reveals itself to be lack of motivation. What we take to be a spineless career of dull conformity turns out to be a sacrifice made for the sake of an unappreciative son. This film has layers and subtlety and visual poetry presented with understatement, finesse and restraint: a wonderful combination that shows the deepest respect for the intelligence of the audience.

The moral turning point in the story is reached when Mr Watanabe determines to accomplish one worthwhile achievement before his life ends. We don't realize how involved we have become in this little man's life until we find ourselves mentally urging him onward to overcome every bureaucratic obstacle he encounters. Not so long ago, with the prospect of a long life still stretched out before him, he was one of the very bureaucrats whose job it was to obstruct and confound just such aspirations. Now, with barely months to live, he makes it his duty to champion them. This turn of events is one of the most touching acts of redemption in all of cinema. By making amends for an unworthy past, an ordinary everyman finds life's meaning in his very last act of living.

I have watched hundreds of films since Ikiru, but there are scenes from this film that have burned themselves into my heart and are as clear today as the moment I first saw them. This occurs not because the director achieved an especially vivid special effect, but because of how deeply we come to care for our little hero. The famous scene at the end is one of the most dignified and gracious artistic statements ever filmed, yet it is a scene of wounding simplicity: a perfect epitaph to a cinematic elegy.

Kurosawa was one of the greatest of all filmmakers and this was his best and most personal film. It's a crime that his work is known only among the literati of the film world, and not to a wider audience. I cannot promise you that you will like this film, because it is paced with a measured and quiet deliberation that is utterly foreign to those raised on a western diet of car crashes, yammering idiots and pixie dust. You need patience, introspection and empathy to appreciate this gentle masterpiece, but if you are the kind of person who is moved by pity, tenderness, humility and grace, then I envy you on your first viewing of this ode to the human spirit.


*I wrote this for a class.
 
Sorry, im kinda a noob but is this thread just used to rate movies and review em? Id like to give it a try :)

It's more of a community of posters that like to talk about movies. This thread was made because of the restrictions of this forum as well as in reaction to the amount of fanboys and 'tards that frequent this site. It's bastion for CIVILIZED conversation as well as does not impose limits on the discussion because it can go anywhere since nothing is off topic. The reviews are simply a way of started conversation and makes one think before simply just posting "The movie was good". Have fun, we're all nice people :)
 
TRUE ROMANCE

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Directed by Tony Scott

Sorry if theres typos and poorly written sentences in this review seeing as I'm rushing to type this out.

True Romance is awesome. If thats all I could say about this movie it would be that. Simply awesome. The Amazing cast, which most of the big names have 5 minutes or less on screen, really bring the movie home. True Romance was Quentin Tarantinos first screenplay, which he planned to direct, but sold it to fund
Reservoir Dogs, which is another awesome movie.

Simply run down about what this movies about: Loser guy, Clarence Worley meets girl,
Alabama Whitman, whos a hooker fall in love and and s**t hits the fan( I really can't write more without spoiling a plot point). I'm not the greatest summarizer but I think I got the point across. Its a love story... Tarantino style, which means theres alot of cursing, blood and awesomeness.

Most of the performances are top notch. Slater, not my favorite actor, but he gets the job done, same with Arquette. The supporting roles is where its at. Dennis Hopper plays Clarence's dad, Clifford. Val Kilmer plays Clarence's mentor, Elvis (Yes, Thee Elvis) which is always out of focus and in the movie 5 minutes tops. Gary Oldman (My personal favorite actor of all-time) is great as Drexl Spivey, Alabama's former pimp who thinks hes black. Other names include a young Brad Pitt, James Gandolfini, Samuel L. Jackson, Tom Sizemore and Chris Penn.

In all the movie is a great flick, witha great premise, great cast, and great screenplay.

Matrixo gives True Romance 10/10
 
Suicide Club (2002)
Director: Sion Sono
Rating: 5/10

Well, only in Japan can it seem a director can comfortably make star-studded features such as this. This rather remarkable career trajectory belongs to Sion Sono, whose "Suicide Club" stars high-profile actors Masatoshi Nagase (Stereo Future, Electric Dragon 80,000 V) and Ryo Ishibashi (Audition, Brother). Knowing this, it is no surprise that watching "Suicide Club" is a special experience indeed. What to think of an opening sequence in which 54 uniformed schoolgirls commit simultaneous suicide by jumping hand-in-hand in front of a rush hour train at Shinjuku station, covering shocked commuters in geysers of blood that washes in red rivers over the concrete platform? Welcome to tonight's main attraction, don't bother buying popcorn.

"Suicide Club" starts out as a rampant satire on fads and consumerism, with suicides portrayed as just another trend and the blood and scattered body parts as its by-products. The addition of the straight-faced police investigation sits rather awkwardly with the exaggerated tone of what's come before, providing only the first of many distractions and unfortunate decisions on the part of the director. For all its incidental impressive moments, "Suicide Club" remains disappointingly unstructured. Bits and pieces are scattered throughout the film (often literally, given Sono's love for lingering on gory details), but they never add up to a coherent whole. The story is peppered with a more than generous helping of red herrings, but these soon start to obscure the already muddled central intrigue.

This is a big shame, because some the underlying themes in Sono's film are interesting: the middle-aged police officers who know where to find the clues, but who are unable to get to them because they are hidden inside the bubble gum pop music and internet chat rooms which their generation doesn't understand; the representation of suicide as a superficial fad - there are seeds aplenty for a potentially great and truly confrontational satire, but the closest thing to being confrontational is when the buckets of schoolgirl blood flow in the already notorious opening scene, covering everyone and everything, the screen included.

With its combination of outrageous shocks and earnest intentions, "Suicide Club" could have followed in the footsteps of Audition and Battle Royale as a film to appeal to critics and cult fans alike. But with Sion Sono's confused handling of the material, it's unlikely to reprise the overseas success of either of these films. Some people may get a kick out of its portrayal of blood and gore, but even then its appeal is probably limited to shocking your friends with those opening five minutes.
 

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