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The Flash My theory...Earth-2 is not Earth-2.....

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Why are most Earth-2 dopplegangers bad? Cisco, Dante Ramon, Ronnie, Caitlyn and now Laurel? I wonder if we have not been seeing Earth-2...But, Earth-3?

If my theory is true. The man in the iron mask could be the "real" Jay Garrick either Teddy Sears or John Wesley Shipp from the real Earth-2.

Here is the DC wiki on Earth-3....

Said to be the birthplace of evil; rather than "right" and "wrong", the ruthless nations of Earth 3 cared only for strength above all, the weak deserving only annihilation. This hopelessly corrupted world was thus ruled by the sadistic, unstoppable Crime Syndicate, twisted counterparts to the Justice League.

In Earth 3 performing crimes is as mundane as Prime Earth is fighting crime. And although there are laws and police, these usually only serve their own interests. Like other Earths of the Multiverse, Earth 3 features a gallery of superhumans, but these are selfish and ambitious beings, as anyone in the universe.
 
Why are most Earth-2 dopplegangers bad? Cisco, Dante Ramon, Ronnie, Caitlyn and now Laurel? I wonder if we have not been seeing Earth-2...But, Earth-3?

If my theory is true. The man in the iron mask could be the "real" Jay Garrick either Teddy Sears or John Wesley Shipp from the real Earth-2.

Here is the DC wiki on Earth-3....

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That makes a lot of sense actually.

So does that make the movies Earth-Prime?
 
I think it is Earth-3, where the supervillains rule and Lex Luthor was its first superhero.

I wonder if Supergirl's Earth is the actual Earth-2 instead.
 
Hmm, I wonder if Zoom's 'darkness' is related.
 
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Even if it is Earth 3, since it was the 2nd Earth they discovered, they're not going to refer to it as Earth 3. It's just Earth 2 from their point of view.

Earth 2 would be Earth 1 for Harry and Jesse.
 
Even if it is Earth 3, since it was the 2nd Earth they discovered, they're not going to refer to it as Earth 3. It's just Earth 2 from their point of view.

Earth 2 would be Earth 1 for Harry and Jesse.
lol true dat . it's the old & odd argument of " how doe we know your earth isn't earth 2?" I claim us earth 1 .
 
Seemingly confirmed. Jay Garrick is from Earth 3, while Earth 2 has all the evil counterparts (and the occasional good counterpart like Deadshot).
 
Honestly, I don't think its really worthwhile to draw direct parallels. Its not like Earth-1 is especially like comics Earth-1.
 
The show's version of Earth-2 may have a lot of parallels with the comics' Earth-3, but it's not Earth-3; it's Earth-2, and it's Earth-2 because that's what the showrunners chose to call it.

To quote an online friend of mine:
An adaptation is not the original. "Adapt" means "change." An adaptation's responsibility is to serve its own internal story logic and integrity. If it uses ideas from the source, it adapts them to fit the needs of the new story it's telling.

Maybe a half a percent of these shows' viewers, at most, actually read comic books. Probably only a certain percentage of that half-percent would be familiar with Earth-3 in the comics. So it doesn't matter what the comics did. That's not the overriding priority for the show.

Lots of ideas in comics adaptations are amalgams of elements from various different things, rather than exact copies of a single thing. For instance, Batman: The Animated Series's Dick Grayson was a blend of Dick and Tim Drake, and The New Batman Adventures's Tim Drake was pretty much Jason Todd in all but name. In this case, what the television series needed was an alternate timeline that could fill whatever alternate-timeline tropes they needed it to fill. So it had evil doppelgangers of heroes, it had comedy doppelgangers of various people in incongruous roles, it had retro-future tech, it had blimps (alternate universes always need blimps), it was whatever it needed to be. It wasn't about slavishly copying any single thing from the comics, it was about taking whatever they needed from any and every alternate-timeline story in the comics and putting it together into their own thing. The comics aren't holy writ, they're just the raw material.
 

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