News anchor responds to rude email about her weight

[ChickenScratch]

I'm glad to hear that, but you shouldn't assume a person isn't strong person because they are overweight. My friend is truly one of the strongest people I know and the girl is bad! She's top candidate at the hospital she works and has managed to maintain a lot of other things in her life though the challenges she has faced are numerous. The one thing that keeps getting the best of her, though, is her weight, but don't get it twisted. She just had the baby in Feb. I'm sure she will overcome this and go back to her normal size.

Mixing up physical strength with perseverance? They are both related but for the purposes of this thread we are talking about the physical. We all face challenges in life, she had a baby and maintains a job ... like the rest of the gainfully employed population.

First, I am not overweight. Second, my friend is overweight from recently having a baby and not being able to work out. She cannot eat 1500 calories a day because she is breastfeeding. She does not work out as much as she would like because she has a small baby and works full time. It's hard for her. I know you think it should be a breeze, but it is not.

The human body uses about 2000 calories a day. If she is only consuming 1500 and still gaining weight then she is not telling you the truth. You cannot put on weight if there is not a caloric surplus. Plus she's breastfeeding so if she were eating less that 1500 and breastfeeding she should be loosing weight. Either she cannot count calories, is eating more and lieing to you, or her body does not follow the law of physics and thermodynamics. A car cannot drive further than the tank of gas can take it.

Are you, like....the highlander?
Keep "getting stronger", MacLeod.
"There can be only one!"

Nice attempt at humor. But yes, other people's failures does make me stronger. It takes less effort to beat someone or be stronger than someone who gives up. People lack drive nowadays (apart of the sedentary lifestyle I guess), most people give up on anything that is sufficiently difficult. They cannot run fast, lift a heavy weight or even learn a new skill because it might be difficult or take long or don't immediately see results.

OMG I have a busy worklife and a family to take care of, I'm fat because of these outside influences. It's an easy cop oout. I've already worked out this morning and will be at the dojo most evening after work and I have a family. It's not difficult, it's just lack of drive.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

" other people's failures does make me stronger."

 

[ChickenScratch]

Yup, in a world of midgets it's easy to be a giant. LOL.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

but it doesn't make you better.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

As far as the guy who wrote the email which started this is concerned, its not about preferring "curvy" women or not. It is about the health of that person and how her obesity/likely poor health may be perceived by those who watch and look up to her, particularly young girls.

You are turning this subject on its side a bit by making it more about preferred body types and how there are more overweight women in America/the world than are shown in Hollywood and tv.

I pushed the preference issue because I feel like in a free society people should be allowed to choose a poor diet and avoid exercise. They should be free to consider weight gain after seeing an attractive and smart tv anchor of a heavier body type.

When people see morbidly obese people they see there is little reward for that level of over eating and lack of strenuous exercise. So they say to themselves, "that will never be me". But if they do see a curvy woman who they can idolize (Marilyn Monroe, Christina Hendricks) they should be allowed to do a cost benefit analysis and decide if they're willing to pay the price.

You can't scheme and manipulate the public into accepting desired health goals by hiding attractive curvy women, in an Orwellian fashion, from public view. All you should do, in a free society, is educate regarding the cost and benefits and allow them to make the choice for themselves.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Boy, the word "curvy" gets thrown around a lot...

With regard to being pregnant or sick or tired and not being able to work out...of course there are times in your life that you may not have the immediate energy to work out, diet, etc. Although there are solutions to things like lowered energy, limited mobility, etc, as well. But I think people are talking about an ongoing lifestyle of these choices.

She's not even "curvy" she's obese

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

And it's also true that if people want to be fat and in generally poor health, it's up to them. They are as free as anyone else. As long as none of them starts teaching kids that being fat is the right thing to do, I don't see why anyone would take the liberty to comment on these fat people's freedom and choices.

As with so many things, education is key. If children are taught that being obese leads to poor health, it becomes up to them to make that call later in life.

There's a "live as long as you can" diktat in our society that needs to stop.

Yup, education is key.

Freedom and democracy cannot be properly advance without it.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Nice attempt at humor. But yes, other people's failures does make me stronger. It takes less effort to beat someone or be stronger than someone who gives up. People lack drive nowadays (apart of the sedentary lifestyle I guess), most people give up on anything that is sufficiently difficult. They cannot run fast, lift a heavy weight or even learn a new skill because it might be difficult or take long or don't immediately see results.
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omg, Darwin wept.

Beating up or avoiding someone weak doesn't make you stronger. It has zero effect on your strength to beat up or avoid a helpless fat or skinny person.

If you want to get stronger you have to beat up someone your strength level or stronger.

 

[chaseter]

Hooney Booboo's mom is curvy.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

She's not even "curvy" she's obese

Obese is being 20% over your ideal weight.

Are you saying many curvy/voluptuous women don't meet this criteria?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Hooney Booboo's mom is curvy.

No she's morbidly obese which doesn't apply to this news reporter.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Obese is being 20% over your ideal weight.

Are you saying many curvy/voluptuous women don't meet this criteria?

Depends on what you mean by "curvy." When I say it I mean do her "curves" serve to accentuate her beauty. Or do they just provide an extra layer of heat in winter. I say it this case it's the latter not the former.

 

[chaseter]

If the news reporter is curvy then I quit.

 

[Mandalore464]

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[knowsbleed]

Funny how people are saying something along the lines of, if person came up to me and said yadda yadda yadda... well, you're not on TV. Media personalities expose themselves so they should be prepared to be criticized for everything. Is it our right to critisize? Actually, yes, it is our right to say whatever we want. Is it RIGHT to critisize? Depending on your intentions, it's very subjective. He could have written to the news station but he chose to go directly to the individual... I think this is the proper course of action being that if he wrote an email to the news station, they would be involved from the get go. The reporter chose to make it a news story.

Who cares if kids see a one extra curvy woman on television? It's a free country, they're a going to be overweight people. Pretending curvy women don't exist is not going to make them go away. You say you have to protect children? Yes you protect them from seeing a woman comfortable with her curves but that isn't protecting them. It's training them to ridicule and shun all women comfortable with their curves. We should protect children from a superficial value system. Currently if you want to do such a thing you have to block 95% of tv station or throw your entire television in a deep river.

TV is overflowing with superficial values and images so it is jarring to see a curvy news reporter comfortable with herself. It's like a glitch in The Matrix.

Ultimately we should be teaching kids that being happy individual and a charitable person ALWAYS supersedes Hollywood's narrow definition of beauty. But how often do you see that message on tv? They rather show surgery and make up "enhanced", blonde rich kids in fast cars and big mansions over and over and over. Blind and endless consumerism and status obsession FTW.

I'm not going to teach my kids that being fat and happy is the right thing to do. Taking care of yourself physically should be treated as work ethic. You owe it to yourself, your family and breaking it down, even your employer to be healthy. An obese person's future health issues impact all those people. I doubt that the person who wrote the email was talking about this from a viewpoint of "I don't like looking at fat people"... which is pretty much what all the people who are against what the email stated are summing his message up to.

 

[mrvlknight21]

Funny how people are saying something along the lines of, if person came up to me and said yadda yadda yadda... well, you're not on TV. Media personalities expose themselves so they should be prepared to be criticized for everything. Is it our right to critisize? Actually, yes, it is our right to say whatever we want. Is it RIGHT to critisize? Depending on your intentions, it's very subjective. He could have written to the news station but he chose to go directly to the individual... I think this is the proper course of action being that if he wrote an email to the news station, they would be involved from the get go. The reporter chose to make it a news story.
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Exactly what I said on the last page. Thus, I agree.

 

[Burgundy LaRue]

OK, let's look at this angle--what was the guy's true motivation? Does he actually care about the reporter? Does he think he was encouraging her? What was his point? I don't buy the 'be a role model" bit.

I'm not going to teach my kids that being fat and happy is the right thing to do.

That's a stereotype. Isn't that what some are you arguing against when taking up for the letter writer--don't generalize that he hates fat people? Both sides can and have been guilty of it.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'm not going to teach my kids that being fat and happy is the right thing to do. Taking care of yourself physically should be treated as work ethic. You owe it to yourself, your family and breaking it down, even your employer to be healthy. An obese person's future health issues impact all those people. I doubt that the person who wrote the email was talking about this from a viewpoint of "I don't like looking at fat people"... which is pretty much what all the people who are against what the email stated are summing his message up to.

I'm not going to teach my kids to be fat either. I'm going to educate them about the cost and benefits of being skinny versus being fat. They will decide for themselves where to prioritize health demands and comfort.

He's saying she shouldn't be on tv because she's overweight. There's no way around it. Now you can argue it's healthier for kids to see skinny people in the media portrayed in a positive light but I feel that's is deceptive, manipulative and down right Orwellian.

Maybe some kids would happily trade a shorter lifetime of comfort over a longer life filled with strenuous exercise and dissatisfaction with food. Who am I to tell kids they must choose one over the other? Educate them on both and let them choose.

 

[knowsbleed]

Strenuous exercise and dissatisfaction with food? I think you are being a tad extreme. There are entire countries where the general population leads healthy lifestyles when compared to Americans... I don't think that their lives are filled with "strenuous exercise and dissatisfaction with food. Might want to open up that narrow viewing angle.

 

[ChickenScratch]

omg, Darwin wept.

Beating up or avoiding someone weak doesn't make you stronger. It has zero effect on your strength to beat up or avoid a helpless fat or skinny person.

If you want to get stronger you have to beat up someone your strength level or stronger.

Did I say beating up anyone? No I didn't, don't put words in my mouth. I'm talking about effort, work, perserverance which most people lack. Its in evidence in people's lack of physical fitness, but also reflects in many other efforts in life.

Nothing worth having is easy. From a strong body to a great job to a nice house. It takes effort and I do wish more people would show more drive and perseverance on more fronts.

 

[chaseter]

I think she meant her friend has to eat more than 1500 calories a day. She was replying to someone who suggested her friend should only eat 1500/day.

Me. This was before she mentioned breast feeding. No one cares if a mother of an 9 month old is 30 lbs over weight.

But with all the excuses that have been mentioned, sounds like she eats bad and sits in a chair all day and at home...and is way more than 30-40 lbs over weight. Mothers naturally lose weight after giving birth...unless you eat more than your body needs to support you and your child's health. I would also bet she doesn't breast feed her baby anymore if she is at work all day. She also is obviously not bedridden anymore if she works...so she can walk on the weekends with her kid in a stroller. But, she obviously doesn't. I may be totally wrong but I would put money on all of that. Breast feeding mothers need about 2000 calories on average. Her body naturally burns almost all of that. Walking 30 minutes a day or doing yoga for an hour a day would make her not gain any weight or lose just a tad. It's really not hard. I doubt she works 14 hour days 6 days a week. There's a reason why 36% of this country is overweight/obese.

 

[knowsbleed]

OK, let's look at this angle--what was the guy's true motivation? Does he actually care about the reporter? Does he think he was encouraging her? What was his point? I don't buy the 'be a role model" bit.

Perhaps he cares about the reporter, perhaps he doesn't. I don't really care if he does or doesn't, but the email didn't indicate any level of "care about the reporter". The email was about the appearance of the reporter's impact on her viewers. Simple as that.

 

[chaseter]

Remember Wall-E?

That's our future. Knowsbleed becomes a cockroach.

 

[Burgundy LaRue]

Perhaps he cares about the reporter, perhaps he doesn't. I don't really care if he does or doesn't, but the email didn't indicate any level of "care about the reporter". The email was about the appearance of the reporter's impact on her viewers. Simple as that.

So if that's the case, why does he care about her looks? Does her appearance cause him not to take her seriously? Even if you hold her weight against her, she appears to be professionally dressed and well groomed, as in keeping with her job. If he doesn't want to look at her, change the channel.

And how is he to know what her impact is on other viewers? Had she received other letters about her weight? He wouldn't know, even if she had.

He's being assumptive. He has no concrete proof of what anyone beyond himself thinks about her unless he sent a survey around to everyone in the station's viewing area.

 

[chaseter]

Look at it this way, is she doing herself any favors by being fat? Will she live longer? Will she be healthy? The answer is no...end of thread.