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Blade(1998)
X-Men(2000)
Spider-Man(2002)
Iron Man(2008)
Avengers(2012)
X-Men(2000)
Spider-Man(2002)
Iron Man(2008)
Avengers(2012)
Blade had more financial impact more than cultural impact but to say it had zero impact is inaccurate. It was the first successful film for Marvel that also kind of boosted the genre coming off a year of three dismal CBMs (Batman and Robin, Steel, and Spawn). Blade, X-Men and Spider-Man go hand in hand. Spider-Man is obviously the big one there but you can't ignore the significance of Blade and X-Men during its production history.Avengers: Endgame
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Blade has zero impact imo.
Whats the impact of Blade though?That year of the 'three dismal cbms' was also the year the highest grossing cbm movie ever made up to that point came out (Men in Black). And it stayed the highest grossing cbm until Spider-man showed up.
Now, lots of people don't know its a cbm, but the exact same thing is true of Blade.
We are the talking about the most impactful films which should eXceed beyond those people who liked Blade.
Spider-Man 2002 and X-Men 2000 were already in the making, years before Blade 2000 came out. Blade movies had ZERO impact to major studios or else we would seen have more R rated Marvel films in the early 2000s and more obscure Marvel characters getting their own films. Those didn't happen and if they did, I don't think there neither any director nor a studio head, citing Blade as an inspiration or the spark needed to make certain films happen.
I can argue about this until someone here actually gives a citation from someone who works in the industry that had Blade as an inspiration. BoX office numbers, the numbers aren't really impressive compare to Spider-Man, Batman, Superman and X-Men at the time. And like I've said Daredevil, Hulk, Fantastic 4 earned more, they didn't not cross the $100 million in North America. Critical response for all 3 films is below 60% in Rotten Tomatoes.
Where is this impact??
See you keep mentioning impact? But what is its impact?You want industry citations in a thread about opinions on impactful Marvel movies? Also, who among us here actually knows anyone that works in the industry, even if it's just a janitor who collects trash at Walt Disney Studios?
But anyway, talking about the thread, I cannot deny Blade's importance, but I would give it to either X-Men or Spider-Man if just for being more recognizable properties, and thus probably more palatable, to the general audience who at least have a passing knowledge of them. Blade is important, but I think it might've had a larger, more immediate impact if more people at the time knew about the character.
In terms of Marvel's impact on the industry I'd say it goes like this:
X Men - Super Hero proof of concept.
Captain America TWS: Proof of concept that a more serious story could be told with Super Heroes
Superman: The Movie already provided proof of concept 22 years earlier. Bryan Singer has even cited Donner as an influence.
The Dark Knight, X-Men, and Unbreakable already proved this. In fact, TWS probably wouldn't be what it was without the massive success of TDK.
22 years is a long time.
You're citing DC, and M. Night Shyamalan on a list about Marvel.
TDK absolutely proved serious could translate in general,
In terms of Marvel's impact on the industry I'd say it goes like this:
It doesn't matter how much time passes. You claimed X-Men was the proof of concept for superhero films. It wasn't. Factual history doesn't change because one person has arbitrary ideas.
These movies don't exist in a vacuum. Especially when more than one Marvel director has cited DC works, STM in particular, as an influence on their work. Once again, actual history does not change because of arbitrary ideas.
Before you backtrack/shift the goalposts, let's remember that you were talking in a general sense to begin with:
TWS having an impact on the MCU does not equate to it having the impact on the industry, not the way you claimed it does. Because again, other CBMs got there first.