Ocean's 13: News, Pictures and Info Thread

Now that Thirteen is out, which Ocean movie was your favorite?

  • O11

  • O12

  • O13

  • None of them were any good


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Rob Lobo said:
Ellen Barkin is one smokin' hot gmilf :eek: She'll be great :up:

she is smokin' hot but she's also 52... man I can deal with 30 or 40's and still being attractive... but 50?! I don't know.... maybe if they make her look 30 in this... :word:
 
nice trailer

LOL @ "Are you watching Oprah?" and Damon's big nose.
 
I absolutely loved Oceans 11 and Oceans 12 was a disappointment. I do love, however, what I am seeing with Oceans 13.
 
That's the older version actually. This is the new poster:


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So far, that's the coolest poster of the year.
 
i hope this movie is good unlike oceans 12
 
First review.

Ocean's Thirteen B

Cannes Film Festival 2007 (World Premiere, Out of Competition)
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Adding several new characters and some new subplots to "Ocean's Thirteen" only partially resolves the narrative and structural problems faced by the popular franchise that began on a high note six years ago with "Ocean's Eleven" and continued with "Ocean's Twelve" to middling results.

Most critics disliked "Ocean's Twelve" due to its vapid, self-conscious yarn and laid-back tempo. The public also was not forthcoming, judging by the disappointing box-office results, compared to the worldwide records achieved by the first picture. The filmmakers themselves have publicly acknowledged their laissez-faire attitude—-George Clooney has gone on record saying, "Maybe we were too lazy."

Though improved, the third chapter again shows that the real fun, original wit, and contagious energy that marked the first segment are now gone. And since the novelty of spotting the stars and observing their cool behavior--and haut couture--have also diminished based on familiarity with the format, "Ocean's Thirteen" just proceeds from one scene to another, with plenty of Hollywood's style and knowingness but little momentum or relevancy.

Watching the film is like visiting seductively attractive friends that, no matter what they do or say, you want to be in their company for a short while. Perhaps a better way to describe "Ocean's Thirteen" is to say that it's like taking a long journey laced with divertissements--sort of punctuations--along the way: Smart and clever one-liners and self-reflexive references to the previous chapters and to the stars' off screen persona and lifestyle. (See below).

A star vehicle par excellence, “Ocean’s Thirteen” reunites George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Andy Garcia, Don Cheadle, Bernie Mac, Casey Affleck, Scott Caan, Eddie Jemison, Shaobo Qin, Carl Reiner, and Elliott Gould. Vet Al Pacino joins the glamorous cast in a major role as the greedy Willy Bank, and Ellen Barkin fills the bill as the feature's only femme, playing Banks' right-hand woman, Abigail Sponder.

Julia Roberts, who had a cameo in the first film and a major part in the second, is not only gone, but no references are made to Danny Ocean's marital status, or love life for that matter. In fact, other than a funny sex (or rather foreplay) scene between Matt Damon, who's in mask with a fake nose to steal jewelry, and Ellen Barkin, as a horny woman of a certain age, there are no romantic interludes. "Ocean's Thirteen," like Hawks' "Rio Bravo" and countless other movies, is about a bunch of professional men who cherish each other's company on and off duty--with as little as possible interference by women or other members of the outside world.

More a revenge than a heist saga, "Ocean's Thirteen" is based on a very simple premise. Willy Bank (Al Pacino), an unscrupulously ruthless casino owner, swindles Reuben Tishkoff (Elliott Gould) out of his share of a new Las Vegas casino. Bank never imagined that the odds were against him when he double-crossed Danny Ocean’s friend and mentor Reuben, putting the distraught Reuben in a hospital bed in critical condition.

For most of the film, Reuben is bed-ridden, with his comrades paying him visits—-and reading him melancholy letters he has no desire to hear. Danny and the gang seem to have only one reason to pull off their most ambitious and riskiest casino heist—-to defend one of their own. But this time around, they need more than luck on their side to break Willy.

Miscalculating badly, Bank might have taken down one of the original Ocean’s eleven, but he left the others standing. Worse yet, Bank's action gives them a shared purpose to take him and his empire down on July 3, the night of what's meant to be his greatest triumph—the grand opening of his new casino, appropriately named The Bank.

Their strategy is twofold. First, there's money involved. The band plans to ruin Bank financially by turning the tables on the precept that the house always wins. But the real knockout punch is targeted at Bank’s personal pride, his reputation as the only hotelier who has earned the Royal Review Board’s Five Diamond Award on every single one of his hotels.

More than the previous segments, in this one, director Soderbergh and his writers adopt the prevalent paradigm of Howard Hawks, centering the saga on male camaraderie, cool professionalism, and above all group loyalty. You may recall that in "Ocean’s Eleven," Danny wants to get his wife (Julia Roberts) back and take down casino owner Terry Benedict (Andy Garcia), so the guys all work together to undertake an incredibly elaborate heist. "Ocean's Twelve" is about the group using their skills to literally survive—to get out of the trouble that they got themselves into in "Ocean's Eleven." In contrast, "Ocean Thirteen" is all about friendship and the ties that knot when a senior member is brought down.

For Danny and his wild bunch, the ultimate humiliation is that Reuben is brought down by an unworthy outsider like Bank's Pacino, a crass and greedy businessman with taste or manners. To that extent, Danny and his team rally together to save Reuben's honor and they are not above using their previous nemesis Terry by promising him a major chunk of the profits and other benefits. This element is what drives and unifies the current story, which goes beyond the heist.

As team members, they complement each other with their skills and share a strong esprit de corps, Danny and his amigos come up with a plan that's elaborate, dangerous and near impossible. The point is made: There are no limits when it comes to one of their own.

If memory serves, in this segment, Danny and Rusty (Brad Pitt, the best dressed man) have the biggest parts, and they are often seen together, unlike the rest of the team that has smaller but still well-written parts, and often operate individually.

As noted, the ultra-cool dialogue and is delivered in a nonchalant way (like who cares), which works well. Soderbergh and the scenarists don't let the banter slow down the proceedings, which move in a breezy pace. The technical and scientific aspects of the heist are so complex that they may be hard to follow.

Two of the film's highlights involve TV's Queen of Talk, Oprah Winfrey. In the first, Clooney is caught offguard with tears in his eyes by Rusty, while watching the Oprah Show. In the second, Terry is interviewed by Oprah and lends cadence to a new oncept, "cheritable heist." (describing more specifically the circumstances will spoil the fun).

Just before the story ends, there is a reflective scene with a touch of nostalgia that refers to Vegas of yesteryear and the heroes' first encounter with what has become the Capital of Crass. There may be an autobiographical element in Clooney's monologue that he first visited Vegas 22 years ago, when it was "so different."

As expected, the film concludes in a smooth and knowing manner at the airport, with the cast's three most physically appealing members, Clooney, Pitt, and Damon, sporting dark glasses and exchanging bon mots like "See you when I see you." Jokes referring to the actors' real life can also be detected in the farewell between Pitt and Clooney (both in their 40s and both multiple-winners of "Sexiest Man Alive"): "Keep the weight off. Have a couple of kids!"

A smart director, Soderbergh knows that the format has become tired if not stale and that the script is too slender, basically a series of interlinked vignettes. As a result, he relies on stylistic flourishes, such as lurid colors, sexy costumes, ostentatious interior décor, and technical devices, such as split screen, fast tempo, bravura tracking shots, and some stunning framing. The above devices are meant to camouflage the meandering nature of the skeleton scenario, credited to Brian Koppelman and David Levien that seldom builds narrative momentum. Koppelman and Levien had previously delved into the milieu of inveterate gamblers in the poker drama “Rounders.” That movie, which was directed buy John Dahl and co-starred Matt Damon, had a better script and stronger characterization, but was not nearly as well-directed and pout together as "Ocean's Thirteen."

Indeed, alongside with the stars, the other element that unifies the trilogy (so far) and elevates it way above the trappings of its source material is Soderbergh's masterful direction, which again impresses with splendidly staged scenes flaunting visual fluency that's missing from the film's textual properties. As a yarn, "Ocean's Thirteen" consists of hundreds of brief scenes, some lasting a few seconds only, offering grand visual and aural pleasure that only highlights the lack of emotional engagement.

Technically, the film's package is ultra-accomplished due to Soderbergh's own lensing (using a pseudonym) and his elaborate play with light and color. The movie is shot in bright, hot colors, with yellow, red, and purple dominating the casinos' interiors, and blue and gray the exterior scenes. The whole movie benefits from the rich and diverse color palette, which changes from scene to scene.

The creative team, headed by production designer Philip Messina, editor Stephen Mirrione, costume designer Louise Frogley and composer David Holmes, deserves credit for making the kind of glossy picture that only Hollywood knows how to.

That said, I hope that after the flop of "The Good German," which was all about style and homage to Hollywood of yesteryear, and "Ocean's Thirteen," which should be commercially successful, Soderbergh would find material that's worthy of his considerable talents.

http://www.emanuellevy.com/article.php?articleID=5704
 
New Poster

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HOLY ****! I NEED that poster. I've always loved drawn posters alot better than photoshop- that poster is AMAZING!

And if Oceans 13 sticks true to it's promise- I think it will bring in great numbers at B.O. again. - Going back to the fun of Oceans 11.
 
Going back to basics, that's a plus, but don't honestly know what to say about this one thus far. The trailers have been lackluster in my opinion.
 
OCEAN'S TWELVE is a vastly underappreciated movie...why? most people simply don't understand what the movie truly is, i.e. they don't get it.

im starting to think i am the only one who loved it / enjoyed it much more than the 1st one. cant wait for the 3rd ...
 

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