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Dude, overkill from you.

Yes, I hate A-Rod. Most people hate A-Rod. It has nothing to do with him being such a great player or that he happens to be on the team that just eliminated mine. He's a dirty player, firstly because of the steroids, second because of the cheap shots. That's why I hate him. The personal life stuff is another matter, but it hardly makes him endearing to anyone. You like him, fine. Doesn't bother me. I still hate him and hope the Phillies give him exactly what he deserves.
 
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Two great players but were dirty at some point or another during their career. Chrisbatbaleman should crawl out from his hole and realize this.
 
Yes, I hate A-Rod. Most people hate A-Rod. It has nothing to do with him being such a great player or that he happens to be on the team that just eliminated mine. He's a dirty player, firstly because of the steroids, second because of the cheap shots. That's why I hate him. The personal life stuff is another matter, but it hardly makes him endearing to anyone. You like him, fine. Doesn't bother me. I still hate him and hope the Phillies give him exactly what he deserves.

Holy ****, dude. GET A LIFE! You're such a pox on this forum.
 
I see Steve Phillips got the boot...I figured once he got suspended, it was just ESPN wanting to get their ducks in a row and make sure they could cut him loose without any legal issues
 
She has no chest. A-Rod can do better. He has too much money not to.

She's pretty hot, though. And he's an athlete. Usually, they dig chicks with athletic bodies too.

Two great players but were dirty at some point or another during their career. Chrisbatbaleman should crawl out from his hole and realize this.

Hole?

Batcave, perhaps?

I thought the term "dirty" being tossed around last night here wasn't because of the roids, but style of play? I didn't think the takeout slide was dirty at all.

You better be clearer, man.

But, if you're talking about having used? yeah. I'm at the point, though where I think everyone's ****ing used, man. I mean it's flooded the league and I wouldn't be shocked with anymore names, excpet maybe just a handful now.

I see Steve Phillips got the boot...I figured once he got suspended, it was just ESPN wanting to get their ducks in a row and make sure they could cut him loose without any legal issues

Yeah, seems like so. I don't like the guy, the only purpose he ever really served on Baseball Tonight was to basically get railed on by Kruk, and pretty much everyone else. Hearing him get owned on-air by Orel Hershiser was pretty much the best part of having him around.

But, I kinda didn't expect him to get canned for it. They might not have expected quite this large a **** storm that has come they're way over this.
 
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She has no chest. A-Rod can do better. He has too much money not to.
Shallow. But he can do better.

And the Red Sox bandwagon too. Suddenly, when they won the World Series...Red Sox Nation actually became a goddamn nation. That was legendarg bandwagonery going on there too.
No, there was a Red Sox Nation before then and the term was used before 2004.


And you continuing to say doesn't make it true.

Whatever...:whatever:

Sorry, but it already is true. When the Yankees win, no one team has more fans come out of the woodwork.
 
it's almost as bad as how the northeast saw a swell of Dallas Cowboys fans during the 90's...
 
Yes, I hate A-Rod. Most people hate A-Rod. It has nothing to do with him being such a great player or that he happens to be on the team that just eliminated mine. He's a dirty player, firstly because of the steroids, second because of the cheap shots. That's why I hate him. The personal life stuff is another matter, but it hardly makes him endearing to anyone. You like him, fine. Doesn't bother me. I still hate him and hope the Phillies give him exactly what he deserves.

Totally agreed. Guy is a self-centered, egotistical maniac. It's players like A-Rod that destroy the game of baseball. Let him go to the Hall of Shame with the likes of Barroid, Pete Rose, Palmeiro, McGuire, and just about any other ****** ball player of this generation (and I am not talking about the Johnny Damon type ******s here).
 
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I remember surges of San Francisco 49er and LA Raider Fans in the late 80s and 90s.
 
My take on A-Rod and steroids...The guy took em at one point when he was with Texas I think...and that sucks. But he admitted to it, and life since then has been better

Unfortunately, Roger Clemmens still think he never took anything.

Question to all,
Do you consider Andy Pettite a HOF?
 
Nah, the post season wins are irrelevant because the guy always had the best team on the field. Other than that his numbers are solid at best. He didn't do much in Houston when he was on an okay team.

As far as A-Rod, I am sure the guy was juicing before and after Texas until the full slate of testing was implemented late 2004. You had the Kevin Brown stuff. I didn't doubt it then and I don't doubt it now. He is a juicer. And back to Andy, "Yeah I did HGH a couple of times in my life. That was all." Okay Andy... :whatever: I could care less either way because he's not a HOF. Got to love the Michael Kay's of the world though, "Andy never lies so I believe he never did steroids and only did HGH a couple of times in his life."
 
A couple of articles from March and May of this year:

METS AND YANKEES ON JIMMY'S HIT LIST

Last Updated: 7:00 AM, March 14, 2009
Posted: 3:26 AM, March 14, 2009

MIAMI - Everybody knows how much Jimmy Rollins loves to beat the Mets. His world champion Phillies are the team to beat but Rollins' ultimate baseball dream is to beat both New York teams in the same season.

Whip the Mets in the NL East or in the NLCS, then topple the Yankees in the World Series; New York, New York.

"That would be the sickest," Rollins told me yesterday as he sat in the third-base dugout after Team USA's practice at Dolphin Stadium. "That's something for the history books, Philadelphia knocking off two New York teams. I might retire. I mean, what else can I do after that?"

He smiled and said, "Guess I got to live up to the rest of my contract, though."

That's how J-Rolls.

Winning back-to-back World Series is the goal. The Phillies have proven to everyone that you can never count them out.

"We're going to be ready," Rollins promised. "When you play in a city like Philadephia, you better be ready. We want it now. We want to win again.

"We have an edge, we enjoy hating the other teams," he said. "We really do. We want to take you by your head, put it under the sand, and then step on your neck, for real."

That is winning passion, something the Mets lack.

"How else do you win?" Rollins wondered.

"That's how the Yankees did it as a team," said the 2007 NL MVP. "We're going to stomp on you, we're going to take your pride, everything about you, we are going to take from you. That's been our ambition the last couple of years."

The Phillies have done just that to the Mets.

"We love to despise them," Rollins said.

David Wright said he and Rollins have signed a three-week Team USA "peace treaty" for the WBC.

"As long as we got on the same uniform, we're all right," Rollins said of Wright.

"When he's got on that blue, white and orange uniform, though, you despise him."

Rollins has learned one thing about Wright during the Classic.

"He has more of a personality than I thought," he said.

Rollins not only wants to win the WBC, he wants to become a better ballplayer in the process. To do that he is picking Derek Jeter's brain as much as possible, two World Series-winning shortstops talking baseball.

"I talk to him a lot," Rollins said. "I asked about winning four titles, and he shared some of that knowledge with me."

Rollins said the road to the World Series goes through Broad Street.
"If they take the title from me, they take it from me, but they're going to have to take it," Rollins said.

Rollins said he got his will to win from his mother, Gigi.

"She always told me, 'Baby, if you want to be a big player, you've got to perform in the big games,' " Rollins said. "I don't say things just to say them. When I say them, I really mean them. Yeah, we won the World Series, but we're still trying to find respect."

No one has repeated since the Yankees won three in a row from 1998-2000. Rollins said he understands the giant shadow of New York.

"How can you get the respect you want when you play 90 miles south of New York?" he said. "And you have two New York teams that are good.

New York is the mecca, you can never get higher than that.

"We win a couple, though, and hopefully that will start to change things."

Mets and Yankees, you have been put on notice: The Phillies are the team to beat.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/mets_and_yankees_on_jimmy_hit_list_20ACGMs2EiAcuM5FedU50K


Yankees, Phillies Deliver October Feel

Posted May 24, 2009 10:41PM By Lisa Olson (RSS feed)
Filed Under: MLB, FanHouse Exclusive


NEW YORK – Jimmy Rollins swears he isn't obsessed with teams from New York. He doesn't spend late nights worrying about whether the Mets might finally shake the choke collars from around their necks, doesn't wake up thinking the Yankees just might be built for October.

So why does it seem Rollins is forever talking about the Mets and the Yankees? Two seasons ago he made a remark that proved to be pretty prophetic, saying his Philadelphia Phillies were the team to beat in the NL East, and Mets fans reacted as if Rollins personally removed the frontal lobe from Jose Reyes' brain. Now from Rollins' crystal ball comes this enticing prediction: the Phillies will play the Yankees in the World Series this October.

Rollins didn't elaborate on his forecast Sunday, after the Phillies beat the Yankees, 4-3, on Carlos Ruiz's two-out, run-scoring double in the 11th inning. It had been a rollicking weekend filled with dramatic comebacks and sky-rocket home runs and blown saves and pies in the face, and if Rollins wasn't exactly handing out "save the date" cards as he left Yankee Stadium, he sure sounded like a man who planned to return at summer's end.

"How great would that be? A World Series here, us against the Yankees?" Rollins said with a grin. "We've proved we can put on a pretty good show."

The Phillies took two out of three games from the Yankees, but such basic numbers can hardly define this interleague series. Along the way a few truths were revealed. Away from home the reigning world champions are lunch-pail tough, finishing their 10-day, three-city road trip with an 8-2 mark for a league-best 16-6 on the road. They were just a dead-red hit away from sweeping the Yankees, and their starting rotation might not be as brutal as everyone thinks. But the Brad Lidge problem is a legitimate worry. He had two save opportunities in two days, blew them both, couldn't stop the Yankees from stealing behind him and looks nothing like the closer who last season was only perfect.

Over on the home team's side, the weekend confirmed the Yankees have indeed had the sticks surgically removed, allowing them to rediscover some of the feel-good karma that used to bounce off the walls of the old Stadium. This is a team with chemistry and a will to fight, two traits that defined the champion Yankee teams of the 1990s and mesh well with a payroll stretching past $200 million.

"We have a belief we can win games late, even if we've been down all day," said Johnny Damon.

The Yankees had four walk-off wins during a homestand in which they went 8-2, and though Sunday ended without anyone being pelted with a pie in the face during a giddy post-game interview, the Yankees departed for Texas feeling, as Damon said, "like Little Leaguers playing in the state tournament."

Clubhouse attendants rushed to ready the crème pies in the bottom of the ninth when Lidge started to crumble. One day earlier Lidge gave up a ninth-inning homer to Alex Rodriguez that tied the game, then lost it when Melky Cabrera smashed a single for the 5-4 Yankee win. Now it was Robinson Cano leading off the ninth with a single to center, and pinch-runner Ramiro Pena stealing second, and Cabrera, the walk-off king, slapping a single that danced under the glove of a diving Rollins, and Pena racing around to tie the game, and Cabrera stealing a base, and all those Phillie fans who had invaded Yankee Stadium suddenly felt their throats clutch.

Lidge recovered, getting Nick Swisher and Brett Gardner on groundouts, but you could already hear the rumble down the turnpike. What's wrong with Lidge? How long will manager Charlie Manuel continue to have faith in a closer who turns most every inning he pitches into a power walk on a tightrope?

The questions lingered well after the Phillies worked a little comeback magic of their own, starting when Yankee reliever Brett Tomko walked Chase Utley with two outs in the top of the 11th. That mistake proved pivotal when, after Utley stole second, Ruiz smashed a 3-2 slider that skimmed the third-base line and scooted into the corner, scoring Utley and igniting fires under the large pockets of red-shirted fans.

The Yankees have built a moat that divides the $2,500 seats from the poor folks who pay $400 or less to watch a game. There were no barriers between the invading Philly fans and the home team supporters, always a hospitable bunch. (The amount of fights in the stands matched the intensity of boos directed at Lidge.) When the bottom of the 11th ended with a whoosh, with reliever Clay Condrey retiring three straight for the win, it sounded as if Citizens Bank Park had been dropped in the Bronx.

Lidge is probably lucky he didn't cross paths with any of the thousands of Philly faithful as they left the Stadium. It was his fourth blown save in 12 opportunities this season, his third on the 10-game road trip, his second against the Yankees, but Lidge insists there is no linear issue binding them together.

"Man, today was totally different than yesterday. I felt great," Lidge said. "I was throwing the ball where I wanted to. They got two ground balls that weren't necessarily hit that well, and a stolen base in there and that was a recipe for a run. The things I was in control of today I feel real good about. I'm disappointed with the result and I know that I've got to start -- no matter what it is -- I've got to start getting them down."

Manuel said his confidence in Lidge hadn't wavered. He liked his closer's fastball and slider, said Lidge still has plenty of talent. "You know what he needs? Just to get 'em out one more time. That's what he needs. He's fine," Manuel said.

Regarding his shortstop's prediction of a Phillies-Yankees World Series, Manuel was only slightly more guarded.

"You know Jimmy, he's pretty confident," Manuel said. "And he's not often wrong."
http://lisa-olson.fanhouse.com/2009/05/24/yankees-phillies-deliver-october-feel/
 
ChrisBaleBatman,

CC deserved the AL MVP more than A-Rod. If A-Rod performed some sort of clutch hit in Game 6 winning it, then maybe. But CC won games 1 and 4 for them.
 
Rollins really went out on a limp predicting they'd face The Yankees :)
 
First of all, I'd like to congratulate Angels on a terrific (although ultimately disappointing) season that they had. If not for some of those errors they committed last night, they might have been able to rally and win the game.

Well, it's on to World Series, and it's Yankees vs Phillies. I think the Yankees stacked up well against Philadelphia, thanks to their hard-hitting lineup, solid rotation, and Rivera. Even though they have a suspect middle relief corp, I think they have what it takes to win the Series this year. Should be a very competitive series between two baseball teams that aren't that far away from each other.
 
As a Phillies fan...I'm not really worried about middle relief (Park, Eyre, Madson, etc.) as much as Lidge still. Granted he's been much better this post season, but you can't forget how terrible he was this season.

I'm interested in what The Phils do rotation wise. Lee Game 1, but I wonder if they'll use Pedro Game 3 or Blanton or Happ.
 
i just looked up the games back in May the Yankees played against Phillies.

Lidge had two blown saves...and one was won in extra innings by Ruiz.

This all comes down to bullpen again.
 
i just looked up the games back in May the Yankees played against Phillies.

Lidge had two blown saves...and one was won in extra innings by Ruiz.

This all comes down to bullpen again.

I'd still trust Rivera over Lidge.
 
anyone think Steve "I like 'em chunky" Phillips ends up on FOX or MLB Network next season?
 
If you are going to cheat on your wife, at least make it worth it. :csad:
 
Question to all,
Do you consider Andy Pettite a HOF?
Not at all.


Rollins really went out on a limp predicting they'd face The Yankees :)
Too bad he sucked this year :o


As a Phillies fan...I'm not really worried about middle relief (Park, Eyre, Madson, etc.) as much as Lidge still. Granted he's been much better this post season, but you can't forget how terrible he was this season.
Fortunately they don't have Joe Girardi managing their pen.


anyone think Steve "I like 'em chunky" Phillips ends up on FOX or MLB Network next season?
No. At least not until his drama gets resolved.
 
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