Quentin Tarantino's The Hateful Eight - Part 1

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[redhawk23]

Tarantino appeared on the Tonight Show tonight, partially to promote the Trade for the Django Unchained comic. Jay asked QT about what he's currently working on. Tarantino responded:

I can't say much about that, and I haven't spoken about this at all publicly but I can tell you the genre. It's a Western. It's not a Django sequel but it's another Western, and the thing is I had so much fun doing Django, and I love Westerns so much, that after I taught myself how to make one it like oh well okay now that I know how to make one let me make another one now that I know what I'm doing.

Edit: Here's video.

http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/quentin-tarantino-writing-new-western-film/n43741

 

[weezerspider]

And it's great to have that Tarantino back. I much prefer him a little more subdued than some of his later works have given us.

I agree. Kill Bill is my least favorite Tarantino work because of exactly that. He's incredibly too self-indulgent with the violence. This feels so earned.

Also, glad you saw the film and liked it! Hope my harsh words were never taken too seriously.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I agree. Kill Bill is my least favorite Tarantino work because of exactly that. He's incredibly too self-indulgent with the violence. This feels so earned.

Also, glad you saw the film and liked it! Hope my harsh words were never taken too seriously.

Nah. We're all good man. My internet rage was a tad overblown. I'm glad I got in to see it as well. I'm gonna see the wide digital release this weekend. I'm genuinely intrigued by the difference between the two, not just in content but overall aesthetic. It's a perfect opportunity to put the film v digital debate on display for me.

 

[weezerspider]

Nah. We're all good man. My internet rage was a tad overblown. I'm glad I got in to see it as well. I'm gonna see the wide digital release this weekend. I'm genuinely intrigued by the difference between the two, not just in content but overall aesthetic. It's a perfect opportunity to put the film v digital debate on display for me.

It's no coincidence IMO that I enjoyed the film during the 70mm presentation more. This is the kind of film that you often enjoy just as much the second time because you see certain characters in a different light, but something felt missing during the digital print and it was the aesthetic.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I was pleasantly surprised that there were no problems with the screen. I'd read reports of the occasional technical hiccup, but my showing was flawless. BTW, can we gush over the overture for a minute? That was amazing. Wish more epic films started with an overture. Put me right in the mood for the movie. When I get paid on Thursday I'm running out and buying the score. It was great.

 

[Black Narcissus]

QT's gf did the costume design.

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[Drizzle]

I agree. Kill Bill is my least favorite Tarantino work because of exactly that. He's incredibly too self-indulgent with the violence. This feels so earned.

You know, this may be an unpopular opinion, but the violence in Kill Bill gets old for me. Sure, there was gratuitous violence in Inglourious Basterds, Django Unchained and The Hateful Eight, but it also felt like there was more substance to them.

 

[weezerspider]

I was pleasantly surprised that there were no problems with the screen. I'd read reports of the occasional technical hiccup, but my showing was flawless. BTW, can we gush over the overture for a minute? That was amazing. Wish more epic films started with an overture. Put me right in the mood for the movie. When I get paid on Thursday I'm running out and buying the score. It was great.

The overture was amazing as was the opening credit shot that was the slow ass crane move looking at the Jesus statue. The score was chilling. My only real complaint about the film is that the main theme wasn't used enough.

You know, this may be an unpopular opinion, but the violence in Kill Bill gets old for me. Sure, there was gratuitous violence in Inglourious Basterds, Django Unchained and The Hateful Eight, but it also felt like there was more substance to them.

I'm the same way. Kill Bill is still better than a lot of other films out there, but Tarantino is capable of so much more.

 

[Marvolo]

Kill Bill Part 1was my first exposure to QT and I hated it the first time I watched it. I didnt know what the film was and only went to watch it because dad was going, and the film was a system shock. The anime, the ridiculous spraying blood, the score, the little piggy sequence, the hospital scene et ...it was all a bit over whelming and strange. At the time I thought it was an awful movie. Since then Ive changed my mind about it. Once I acquainted myself with QT's style I was able to absorb the film better. But even to this day I dont enjoy Kill Bill as much as his other stuff.

 

[BlackFox]

To those that have seen the film, how was Mr Tatum in this? I assume its not a big role but did he at least hold his own against the other heavyweight actors?

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Tatum was pretty much Gambit in this.

Overall I was disappointed in this. Basterds and Django were really good, so to come to this was kind of heart breaking. This is teetering between a 6.7 and a 7 for me.

 

[Drizzle]

To those that have seen the film, how was Mr Tatum in this? I assume its not a big role but did he at least hold his own against the other heavyweight actors?

He was barely in it, but I thought he did fine with what he was given. It wasn't really a substantial role.

 

[Marvolo]

I didnt even know Channing was in this. Is it the sort of cameo Jonah Hill had in Django Unchained?

 

[StarLord]

I didnt even know Channing was in this. Is it the sort of cameo Jonah Hill had in Django Unchained?

He plays [BLACKOUT]Jody Domergue[/BLACKOUT] and he's in it a fair bit [BLACKOUT]towards the end.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[BlackFox]

Tatum was pretty much Gambit in this.

Overall I was disappointed in this. Basterds and Django were really good, so to come to this was kind of heart breaking. This is teetering between a 6.7 and a 7 for me.

He was barely in it, but I thought he did fine with what he was given. It wasn't really a substantial role.

Cheers thanks for the feedback, odd that he would play a character as similar to Gambit in a Tarantino film but I guess if it fits the part then maybe thats why he got it.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Tatum did better than I imagined. Tarantino's direction did wonders for him I guess

 

[redhawk23]

The Weinsteins have moved up the films digital expansion even further.

At least in St. Louis, the 70mm version will continue to be available at least through the 7th.

 

[titansupes]

Kill Bill Part 1was my first exposure to QT and I hated it the first time I watched it. I didnt know what the film was and only went to watch it because dad was going, and the film was a system shock. The anime, the ridiculous spraying blood, the score, the little piggy sequence, the hospital scene et ...it was all a bit over whelming and strange. At the time I thought it was an awful movie. Since then Ive changed my mind about it. Once I acquainted myself with QT's style I was able to absorb the film better. But even to this day I dont enjoy Kill Bill as much as his other stuff.

Same thing happened to me. Saw KBv1, hated it. Then years later, a friend made me watch PF, it blew my mind and I went back through the whole filmography.

 

[Sawyer]

I guess I'm lucky that Pulp Fiction was the first film of his that I ended up seeing.

 

[gap5ewl]

Just saw it. My god was that the dullest first half of a film I have ever seen. Me and my gf almost fell asleep. It picks up right in the middle, and then starts getting really enthralling.

Excellent acting, I have a feeling we'll be seeing a few oscar noms (specifically for SLJ, Jennifer Jason Leigh, and Kurt Russell).

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I wouldn't be surprised if Tatum gets something either. He was surprisingly good as Gambit, er the gang leader rather.

All in all, I think my friend said it best though: the plot of the film could've been done in under an hour. Just be prepared for the most unnecessary first hour and a half in a film before it gets intriguing. Probably one of his weaker ones as a whole, but the pay off in the end is worth it (sort of).

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Be prepared for the trademark Tarantino N bombs mania though (I know it's the 1800s, but SLJ must be getting tired of this ****), and serious physical violence by men towards women.

 

[RockSP]

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Be prepared for the trademark Tarantino N bombs mania though (I know it's the 1800s, but SLJ must be getting tired of this ****), and serious physical violence by men towards women.

Ha! Not at all. I remember years ago Spike Lee said something about Tarantino's tendency to use it, and Jackson went on a long insult filled tirade against Spike defending QT. Keep in mind that at the time Jackson was one of Spike's "regulars"...appearing in most of his films up to that point. But after that tongue lashing (late 90's) they didn't work together again until Spike's Oldboy remake (2013). Maybe that is coincidence but I doubt it.

All that to say Jackson doesn't care about QT using it. It was a QT film that really made people know Jackson's name, after all.

 

[TJByrum]

Pretty decent movie, but that General Sanders guy felt strange. Was that suppose to be Colonel Sanders from KFC? He wasn't important to the story at all, played no integral part, and contributed absolutely nothing to the grand scheme of things.

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I think it would have been a lot more intriguing if he opposed everything Mannix said to him, and instead agreed with Jackson's character; I thought it was really unique to see a former slave and a rebel general talk like they did at the halfway point, about sharing a battlefield and stuff.

Samural L Jackson is a favorite of mine, and I was really impressed by his role, and really liked him.

 

[kguillou]

I'm in the middle of watching Inglorious Basterds (I haven't seen it in years) and damn, this movie is so good. The dialogue in this movie is so sharp and well delivered that you don't even feel the time go by during the talking scenes. I haven't seen Hateful 8 yet but would those who have seen it say the dialogue is on par with IB?

 

[Matt Mortem]

I saw the digital wide release last night. If the 70mm version I saw was a 9/10, then this digital one was a 5. I'm not a stickler about film over digital by any means, but without that additional aesthetic The Hateful Eight just doesn't work as well as a film. The sound seemed a little less rich too. I've never seen a movie benefit from the grain, flicker and other trappings of a legitimate film projected showing like this one. Without all the other stuff I was left with just the story which didn't shine as brightly this time around.