Quick silver or flash

[Ahura Mazda]

Flash against runner could be interesting but they did something like that in Marvel where a Flash-type character won a race including the Runner

 

[xethump]

Ultimate Quicksilver

 

[MajinShenron]

With Quicksilver's duping ability and all the new abilities he has recieved, he can be a challenge.

 

[KingOfDreams]

It all depends on whether you're talking about Quicksilver as he is now or Quicksilver as he was then.

 

[The Fonz]

Flash

 

[Dew k. Mosi]

depends on the universe they are in. Marvel has no speed force so Flash will not be so fast here, and with Quickie's new powers he is unbeatable. ALso, let's take personalities into account. Pietro will cheat, pure and simple. He couldn't stand losing in the one thing he knows he is good at.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

depends on the universe they are in. Marvel has no speed force so Flash will not be so fast here, and with Quickie's new powers he is unbeatable. ALso, let's take personalities into account. Pietro will cheat, pure and simple. He couldn't stand losing in the one thing he knows he is good at.

Meh....ALL of Flash's rogues cheat...that shouldn't be a factor on whether or not he loses a fight...he's used to those tactics by now.

 

[Mr. Green]

Does Quicksilver even have superspeed anymore?

And I thnk that Ultimate Quicksilver is faster than his 616 counterpart.

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

Does Quicksilver even have superspeed anymore?

And I thnk that Ultimate Quicksilver is faster than his 616 counterpart.

As far as I've seen Ultimate Quicksilver is way faster then his older 616 counterpart. But I don't know who's faster after that whole House of M thing.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Hell, even Ultimate Quicksilver with an alleged Mach 5 ability is nothing to Flash.

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

Hell, even Ultimate Quicksilver with an alleged Mach 5 ability is nothing to Flash.

He's way faster then Mach 5, in Ultimates 2 issue 12 he said he broke Mach 10 before he hit puberty and in that same issue he ran Speedster so fast that she disintegrated all before Hawkeye could hit the ground after being hit by Speedster.

 

[Docker2.0]

In JLA/Avengers, didn't Quicksilver beat Flash in the end when there was no speedforce in the Marvel universe?

 

[Crowforge]

But if ther's no speedforce flash has no powers?

 

[Joker]

who do u think will win a race or maybe even a fight

Flash...fastest man alive, plus now he has the entire speed force inside of him...so, Flash, easily

 

[Fading]

But if ther's no speedforce flash has no powers?

Well when Flash first came over he had no powers. He found out quick there was no speed force and couldn't use his speed without it. I think he ended up beating QS in a race, but it was only because Flash had a device built for him that let him use his speed in the Marvel Universe. Also QS was saying something about eventually he'd tap into the Speedforce or something and they'd have a rematch.

 

[Anubis]

Now that bart has internalized the Speedforce, he should be able to take it with him anywhere he decides to go. MU or not, Bart is the Speed Force. So, that rule no longer applies.

However, Quicksilver's new powers place him on a different level than he ever was. Who knows what he could do if he used his new powers on Flash. If he has powers similar to Zoom, then he would be slightly faster than most Flashes. But we've yet to see Zoom go up agianst the full power of the Speed Force, which Bart commands. If Wally, just being able to tap into the SF made him faster than any Flash before him, then Bart actually being one with this extra dimensional entity should put him above all other speedsters. In theory of course. So, I guess I'll go with Flash on this one.

 

[kytrigger]

Now that bart has internalized the Speedforce, he should be able to take it with him anywhere he decides to go. MU or not, Bart is the Speed Force. So, that rule no longer applies.

However, Quicksilver's new powers place him on a different level than he ever was. Who knows what he could do if he used his new powers on Flash. If he has powers similar to Zoom, then he would be slightly faster than most Flashes. But we've yet to see Zoom go up agianst the full power of the Speed Force, which Bart commands. If Wally, just being able to tap into the SF made him faster than any Flash before him, then Bart actually being one with this extra dimensional entity should put him above all other speedsters. In theory of course. So, I guess I'll go with Flash on this one.

yeah, I was actually thinking this would be a very interesting fight once both guys fully understand how to utilize their powers.

 

[fifthfiend]

So wait, Bart is actually one with the Speed Force, now?

Because that's what the DCU needed, is the Flash being even more stupidly powerful?

 

[bkhedr]

I was just thinking that


in any case Flash beats Quicksilver (both 616 and Ultimate) heck he probably beats Makkari and the Runner too

 

[Anubis]

So wait, Bart is actually one with the Speed Force, now?

Because that's what the DCU needed, is the Flash being even more stupidly powerful?

Yeah, i'm not one for toning characters down, I think that's a wuss's way out. But making a character whose already damn powerful even more so is just a bad idea. I hope he eventually separates from it and restore things back to the status quo.

 

[kytrigger]

Yeah, i'm not one for toning characters down, I think that's a wuss's way out. But making a character whose already damn powerful even more so is just a bad idea. I hope he eventually separates from it and restore things back to the status quo.

I don't know, I mean they could probably make some interesting limitations on teh character if he actually contains teh speedforce. They could have it where if other character's are tapping into it, it actually drains him, or other limitations. It could be interesting, but I do agree that without any limitations, the character is too powerful now.

 

[Anubis]

that's a good idea too. Kinda how the Marvels had to do the Power of SHAZAM for awhile.

 

[Spidey Rules 2]

Maybe a better race would be Quicksilver vs Superman. Anyone got any thoughts on those two racing?

 

[bkhedr]

Supes would lap 616 Pietro a dozen times

Maybe Ult. Quicksilver can keep up with him

 

[fifthfiend]

I don't know, I mean they could probably make some interesting limitations on teh character if he actually contains teh speedforce. They could have it where if other character's are tapping into it, it actually drains him, or other limitations. It could be interesting, but I do agree that without any limitations, the character is too powerful now.

Those limitations wouldn't make a whole lot of sense, on account of Barry/Wally were as fast as they were just with being plain old ordinary connected-to the Speed Force, with however all many other speedsters tapping it along with them. I mean hell, the Speed Force is supposed to be the source of all kinetic energy in the entire universe, so technically Bart is being tapped by all motion in existence. It's hard to see a couple of super-speedsters making much of a difference compared to that.

I'm just saying, there's not a whole lot of limitation I can think of that would make any kind of real sense, in the context of Bart being pretty much the Living Embodiment of Speed Itself.

... You know this is what I get for just skimming Flash:FMA, I was so put off by the superficial awfulness of the dialogue and characterization that I didn't even get to the truly awful ridiculousness lying just beneath the surface.