Action-Adventure Red One - Dwayne Johnson, Chris Evans

[Kane52630]

he did what?

 

[CaptainWagner]

It is very funny to me that The Rock has seemingly learned nothing from Black Adam and, rather than laying low until his Oscar play next year, is setting himself up for humiliation all over again with a movie that might be even worse than Black Adam.

 

[kguillou]

Dwayne has Moana 2 and the upcoming live action Moana that are going to keep his career intact so he can take this hit. But yeah, his career overall post Fast and Furious has been….oof.

 

[Sawyer]

he did what?

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His delusions of grandeur are nearly Trumpian.

If he keeps taking hits at the box office, it’s probably only a matter of time before he joins Zachary Levi.

 

[Kane52630]

Listen... I too would watch Oppenheimer in 70mm IMAX again bearchested.

 

[Sithborg]

His delusions of grandeur are nearly Trumpian.

If he keeps taking hits at the box office, it’s probably only a matter of time before he joins Zachary Levi.

I mean, he complained about cancel culture already. He also joined Vince's company just as **** was starting to go down, no doubt as a PR move to take attention off of Vince.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I mean, he complained about cancel culture already. He also joined Vince's company just as **** was starting to go down, no doubt as a PR move to take attention off of Vince.

A lot of wrestling fans have said that they would not be surprised if he (or his people) asked Muhammad Ali's widow to give him a Brahma Bull WWE Championship at last year's WWE Hall of Fame Ceremony.

 

[TheVileOne]

The Rock would need some monumentally embarrassing thing to happen to him to get to that level. Everything aside the dude is a made man. He's literally a member of WWE/TKO's board of directors.

Will Smith literally slapped Chris Rock at Oscars and he still got Bad Boys 4 made. Will Smith is not the star he was in the late 1990s, but he's still got clout and star power.

Moana 2 is going to do very well too.

Do I think The Rock has a gigantic ego and probably has a lot of annoying handlers who tell him what he wants to hear? Yes, probably. At the same time, that ego is what propelled him to become so successful. You need ego and probably ridiculous confidence and hubris to become this successful.

 

[kguillou]

It is just fascinating how the Rock is the “biggest” movie star of the last decade commanding the highest salaries and yet he has no franchise of his OWN that made him a star. Hes a star because he saved Fast and Furious for 4 movies as a supporting player but he was not the lead in any of those movies. THEN he had Hobbs and Shaw which was successful but didnt light the world on fire.

The Rock doesnt have his own Die Hard or Terminator or Rocky or Rambo or Blade or John Wick that he could hold up as his own as a starring vehicle.

 

[Deck Rickard]

It is just fascinating how the Rock is the “biggest” movie star of the last decade commanding the highest salaries and yet he has no franchise of his OWN that made him a star. Hes a star because he saved Fast and Furious for 4 movies as a supporting player but he was not the lead in any of those movies. THEN he had Hobbs and Shaw which was successful but didnt light the world on fire.

The Rock doesnt have his own Die Hard or Terminator or Rocky or Rambo or Blade or John Wick that he could hold up as his own as a starring vehicle.

Yeah, exactly. They talk about this on The Weekly Planet a lot; how the Rock doesn’t really have a great movie of his own. The action stars he emulates and idolizes (Arnie, Stallone, Willis) all had big franchises that were theirs (and in some cases, multiple franchises). The Rock has F&F but he’s a side character in most of those and some of them he’s not even in since he joined up. And aside from Fast Five, they’re all pretty bad. He has Moana, which is a legit great movie and he’s great in it, but again, it’s a supporting role and it’s a voice role. I guess the Jumanji franchise is probably his best one; he’s the principle lead and the movies are pretty good. But other than that? His leading man output has been bad overall. I enjoyed Red Notice for trash green screen Netflix movie but it wasn’t good. Black Adam was damn near unwatchable (had to watch it 3 pieces because enduring more than 35 minutes of that trash in one sitting is torture). I kinda liked Central Intelligence… why didn’t he do a sequel to that one instead of getting Kevin Hart to appear in all his other movies? That one actually kinda worked.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[TheVileOne]

It is just fascinating how the Rock is the “biggest” movie star of the last decade commanding the highest salaries and yet he has no franchise of his OWN that made him a star. Hes a star because he saved Fast and Furious for 4 movies as a supporting player but he was not the lead in any of those movies. THEN he had Hobbs and Shaw which was successful but didnt light the world on fire.

The Rock doesnt have his own Die Hard or Terminator or Rocky or Rambo or Blade or John Wick that he could hold up as his own as a starring vehicle.

Don't forget Jumanji which was also sort of a revival of an existing franchise and children's book.

Also, to be fair,...I mean...there is Moana.

 

[Hunter Rider]

It's ironic that Rock is starting to show the same lack of self awareness as his old nemesis Vin. Nevermind, he'll be back in Final Boss mode for Wrestlemania next year!

 

[Deck Rickard]

Yeah, this is why Hollywood is imploding. You can justify spending $250 million on a Marvel or Jurassic World movie because those are properties that will likely make their money back. But spending $250 million on a Santa Claus action movie that no one asked for? Even if the movie looked great and all the actors in it had a ton of success at the box office recently, that’s still wayyyy too much money to drop on a risky project like this.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Mani-Man]

He's kinda insufferable.

What is it even about him at this point?
Like, he is a charming guy, seems nice when he talks with his fans and all.
But when it comes to his Movie career and promoting movies, he seems unlikeable.
I cant really point at what kind of annoys me about him really, but something is off.

Yeah, exactly. They talk about this on The Weekly Planet a lot; how the Rock doesn’t really have a great movie of his own. The action stars he emulates and idolizes (Arnie, Stallone, Willis) all had big franchises that were theirs (and in some cases, multiple franchises). The Rock has F&F but he’s a side character in most of those and some of them he’s not even in since he joined up. And aside from Fast Five, they’re all pretty bad. He has Moana, which is a legit great movie and he’s great in it, but again, it’s a supporting role and it’s a voice role. I guess the Jumanji franchise is probably his best one; he’s the principle lead and the movies are pretty good. But other than that? His leading man output has been bad overall. I enjoyed Red Notice for trash green screen Netflix movie but it wasn’t good. Black Adam was damn near unwatchable (had to watch it 3 pieces because enduring more than 35 minutes of that trash in one sitting is torture). I kinda liked Central Intelligence… why didn’t he do a sequel to that one instead of getting Kevin Hart to appear in all his other movies? That one actually kinda worked.

I never thought about this, but yeah.
He jumps from one movie to the next, which is nice too, but he also lacks this definitive Franchise that is his.
He hasnt built a Franchise that you would recognize him with.

Yeah, this is why Hollywood is imploding. You can justify spending $250 million on a Marvel or Jurassic World movie because those are properties that will likely make their money back. But spending $250 million on a Santa Claus action movie that no one asked for? Even if the movie looked great and all the actors in it had a ton of success at the box office recently, that’s still wayyyy too much money to drop on a risky project like this.

Yeah, its a big problem.
I havent watched the movie, but based on the Trailer...i dont see the budget and this is not a movie to begin with that should have a budget higher than the first Avatar movie.
Especially if you run with The Rock as lead who just hasnt been that box office lead man.
This looks like a maybe 80 million dollar Netflix movie to me...not a 250M movie you put into Theaters.
The insane budgets are one of Hollywoods or in general entertainments biggest problems.

 

[kguillou]

Whaaa? Well thats a twist. I thought this was gonna have like a B cinemascore for sure.

 

[blueharvest]

Whaaa? Well thats a twist. I thought this was gonna have like a B cinemascore for sure.

I thought, based on most of the reviews, that it was going to receive a C Cinemascore.

 

[Spider-Fan]

This was a very dumb movie. Ugly SFX and oh so stupid. But.. sorry guys, I was entertained. This was entertaining trash

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah, this is why Hollywood is imploding. You can justify spending $250 million on a Marvel or Jurassic World movie because those are properties that will likely make their money back. But spending $250 million on a Santa Claus action movie that no one asked for? Even if the movie looked great and all the actors in it had a ton of success at the box office recently, that’s still wayyyy too much money to drop on a risky project like this.

The effects in the movie are abysmal. The entire North Pole stuff looks very bad. Unfinished in a a Quantumania kind of way. But that's just what a modern blockbuster is anymore. Bloated budgets and bad green screen.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Kane52630]

Saw it yesterday, it's pretty bad. This movie didn't know whether it wanted to be GI Joe and Aquaman or The Santa Clause. Also, this 2 hour movie felt like 3 hours long.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I disagree on it not knowing what it wanted to be. This movie wanted to be exactly what it was. Aquaman is actually a good parallel to what it's going for. It's essentially a Christmas version of that. But I also agree that it feels more like a movie you'd watch on Netflix than take a trip to the theater. I think in the end, this movie is trash, but mildly amusing trash. But I think you can wait to watch it on Amazon Prime in a few months for free instead of paying for it.

So, in the pantheon of Rock being a moron recently, I think Black Adam deserves all the hate cause it wanted to be the launching point of a new DC and it thought it was amazing when it was trash. But here, I am not offended by Red One. It's a silly Christmas action movie made for a streamer and it knows it is stupid. Even if the Rock doesn't, lol!

 

[Deck Rickard]

Given how people are saying that this movie is basically a rehash of a number of other (better) movies, it’s kind of fitting that if you take out the space between the two words that make up the title, the movie would be called “Redone.”

 

[blueharvest]