Remembering Bob Kane's birthday !!!!!!

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Today October 24th in the year 1915 Robert Kahn was born in

New York City. He would change his name to "Bob Kane" at the age of 18 and started working as a staff artist for the Eisner/Lger studio back in 1936.
In 1939 he helped bring to paper one of the most interesting and beloved superheros of all time The Bat Man.
He died November 3rd 1998 so please have a good thought for the man who help bring so much joy to all our live's.

Happy Birthday Bob Kane R.I.P. ​

 

[MiracloFiend]

All right, another poster from Rochester on these boards.

Respect to Bob Kane, as well as Bill Finger, the oft forgotten co- creater of Batman, neither of which is with us any longer.

R.I.P. B.C and B.F.

 

[Batman1939]

Rest In Peace Bob Kane And Bill Finger Thank You For Creating The Best Superhero Character Ever!

 

[droogiedroogie2]

Rest in Peace Bill Finger.

Bob Kane, you are a son of a *****, and your name should be shrouded in shame and infamy for eternity. Betrayal of friends, partners, and colleagues is lower than low.

 

[MiracloFiend]

Ouch. Well somebody was going to bring that up eventually.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

All right, another poster from Rochester on these boards.

Respect to Bob Kane, as well as Bill Finger, the oft forgotten co- creater of Batman, neither of which is with us any longer.

R.I.P. B.C and B.F.

I did not know that their was anybody else here from Rochester hellot:I moved up here 2 years ago from Brooklyn NY

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Ouch. Well somebody was going to bring that up eventually.

Yeah I was hoping that no one would but what can you do.

 

[Two-Face]

RIP Mr Kane & Finger.

 

[fabman]

RIP Bob Kane, happy birthday! Thank you for creating the greatest of all comic book heroes.

 

[Mee]

So, since he won't be needing the cake, can I have it?

 

[DocLathropBrown]

Rest in Peace Bob, the TRUE creator of Batman. Without you, Finger wouldn't have had a chance to work on Batman!

 

[DocLathropBrown]

Rest in Peace Bill Finger.

Bob Kane, you are a son of a *****, and your name should be shrouded in shame and infamy for eternity. Betrayal of friends, partners, and colleagues is lower than low.

Without Bob Kane, Bill Finger wouldn't have had the chance to work on Batman. Can't revise a character if no one creates it first, bud. Finger deserves equal credit, but he was NOT the creator of Batman.

 

[Fear of god]

ever heard about this: http://www.originalbatman.com/index.html

 

[hippie_hunter]

Rest In Peace Bob Kane And Bill Finger Thank You For Creating The Best Superhero Character Ever!

Last time I checked, Aquaman was created by Paul Norris and Mort Weisinger, not by Bob Kane and Bill Finger.

 

[MiracloFiend]

I did not know that their was anybody else here from Rochester hellot:I moved up here 2 years ago from Brooklyn NY

Yeah, I moved up here from Ct. around the same time.

Other readers are going to be under the impression that Roc. is a happenin' place or something.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Yeah, I moved up here from Ct. around the same time.

Other readers are going to be under the impression that Roc. is a happenin' place or something.

Its pretty nice up here.But some times its too guiiet.When I first got here I thought it wa going to be hard to find a good comic store but I got lucky and found one about 4 blocks away.Where do you by your comic books?t:

 

[DocLathropBrown]

ever heard about this: http://www.originalbatman.com/index.html

I don't buy that stuff. It's more coincidence than anything else, I think.

[rant] Anyway, yes, Finger deserves equal credit, but NOT as much as some people try to give him. Not to mention the fact that he let himself get ripped off. If you let yourself get ripped off, you kind of deserve what you get, anyway.

The problem with the "Finger fanatics" is that they try to take away credit from Bob. News flash: Finger is NOT the "true" creator of Batman. Bob Kane invented Batman and Finger made revisions. Key revisions? Hell yes. Without Finger, Batman probably wouldn't have gone anywhere. But you have to be fair, and you have to be accurate.

All this stuff about Finger is a bias. People have made Kane out to be a bigger a**hole than he really was. Toward the end of his life, he revealed the truth and admitted that Finger got srcewed out of his credit.

But it wasn't Bob being a jerk. Bob created the character and had already submitted it to DC. So he was the only one who got official credit. That's how it worked in those days. Sorry to say it, but Bob Kane wasn't the ******* everyone wants to make him out to be. Not to mention that if Finger really felt he deserved co-credit for Batman, he could have taken Bob/DC to court like Siegal and Shuster did for Superman. If you let yourself get walked on, you partially deserve it.

This "raise the Finger" idiocy really gets on my nerves. Yes, the guy deserves equal credit, but the morons here carry the crusade way. Too. Far. Finger only helped shape the chracter, just as anyone else who wrote Batman for all these years. It's not Finger's (or Kane's) fault that the writers went unappreciated back then, that's how things were. And proclaiming that Bob Kane can "burn in Hell" is immature and ignorant. When you make a statement like that, it only shows that you don't care about the truth. The truth is that Kane created Batman. That will never change, and sorry to say, Finger fans, it is the truth. Kane wasn't the nicest person until the time B89 came out (When he started giving Bill his due credit), but overreacting and trying to insinuate that Kane was the devil is just plain rediculous.

Now, the Kane estate refusing to give Finger any credit (Which happened with the BB 2 Disc SE's pack-in comic recently) is truly pathetic, especially since Bob Kane himself was quick to acknowledge Finger in his last ten or so years.

But yeah. Kane created the Batman character and submitted him. THEN Finger made revisions. Thus, technically, Finger doesn't deserve co-credit, but it'd be generous. Kane's only true crime is taking credit for it all for all the years that he did, up until '89. [/rant]

 

[MiracloFiend]

^Very well put. Do you think when Kane and Finger created a Bat Man for Detective Comics in 1939 that it would turn into the phenomenon that it is today? Probably not. Who created what was not a big deal, really.

You want to talk about atrocities that happened in '39 I'm pretty sure there was some guy in Germany who had some 50,000 plus Slovaks creamated, so,yeah, probably a little worse than taking credit for giving some superhero his trademark cape n' cowel.

 

[MiracloFiend]

Its pretty nice up here.But some times its too guiiet.When I first got here I thought it wa going to be hard to find a good comic store but I got lucky and found one about 4 blocks away.Where do you by your comic books?t:

I go to Village Square on Goodman. You?

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I go to Village Square on Goodman. You?

I have been there and I'm going to the toy show there in Decrmber but I do most of my book shoping at all Heros Comics on Lake ave near Latta rd.The shop owner is great and holds my stuff for over a month sometimes.

 

[droogiedroogie2]

Rest in Peace Bob, the TRUE creator of Batman. Without you, Finger wouldn't have had a chance to work on Batman!

Without Finger, Batman has no appeal. Finger made Batman what he is, in both artistic and story terms.

 

[droogiedroogie2]

Without Bob Kane, Bill Finger wouldn't have had the chance to work on Batman. Can't revise a character if no one creates it first, bud. Finger deserves equal credit, but he was NOT the creator of Batman.

Kane came up with the idea of a guy named Bat-Man. Finger made Batman what he is. Besides, this is not even the issue I brought up. Your canned response doesn't apply to what I said. What I referred to is Kane's betrayal of Finger, and his refusal to share any credit for the character. Finger died in poverty and obscurity because of Kane's betrayal.

 

[droogiedroogie2]

If you let yourself get ripped off, you kind of deserve what you get, anyway.

Yay! And blame the victims of rape, too.

If you don't know your rights, you can't stop yourself from getting ripped off. Finger was from a more working-class background, he wasn't used to lawyers and legalese.

The problem with the "Finger fanatics" is that they try to take away credit from Bob. News flash: Finger is NOT the "true" creator of Batman. Bob Kane invented Batman and Finger made revisions. Key revisions? Hell yes. Without Finger, Batman probably wouldn't have gone anywhere. But you have to be fair, and you have to be accurate.

The Finger revisions effectively make it a different character! Otherwise, the original Luke Starkiller is the same character as the final Luke Skywalker, even though they have very little in common.

All this stuff about Finger is a bias. People have made Kane out to be a bigger a**hole than he really was. Toward the end of his life, he revealed the truth and admitted that Finger got srcewed out of his credit.

Of course, that makes it right! If Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot all admitted that they were murderous dictators who committed acts of pure evil, would that make it right?

But it wasn't Bob being a jerk. Bob created the character and had already submitted it to DC. So he was the only one who got official credit. That's how it worked in those days.

Fine, but it was Bob Kane who legally mandated that his name had to be attached to every comic book that featured Batman in it, and that he had to get a fat royalty check for all of them, while Finger got nada. DC didn't just up and volunteer to do that, and the law didn't mandate it.

Not to mention that if Finger really felt he deserved co-credit for Batman, he could have taken Bob/DC to court like Siegal and Shuster did for Superman.

See above. Finger didn't know his rights. Siegel and Shuster did. And it's not about creater control. It's about credit, about Kane's exclusive right to be named as Batman's creator in every comic featuring Batman, about Kane's exclusive royalties deal.

And proclaiming that Bob Kane can "burn in Hell" is immature and ignorant. When you make a statement like that, it only shows that you don't care about the truth.

Actually, it shows that I disagree with you.

The truth is that Kane created Batman. That will never change, and sorry to say, Finger fans, it is the truth. Kane wasn't the nicest person until the time B89 came out (When he started giving Bill his due credit), but overreacting and trying to insinuate that Kane was the devil is just plain rediculous.

He came up with the name. Kane's Batman shares nothing else with the Finger-revised Batman.

Now, the Kane estate refusing to give Finger any credit (Which happened with the BB 2 Disc SE's pack-in comic recently) is truly pathetic, especially since Bob Kane himself was quick to acknowledge Finger in his last ten or so years.

Now who's blaming the wrong people? KANE GOT A LEGAL INJUNCTION TO MAKE THINGS THIS WAY. The estate is following the letter of the law.

 

[droogiedroogie2]

^Very well put. Do you think when Kane and Finger created a Bat Man for Detective Comics in 1939 that it would turn into the phenomenon that it is today? Probably not. Who created what was not a big deal, really.

You want to talk about atrocities that happened in '39 I'm pretty sure there was some guy in Germany who had some 50,000 plus Slovaks creamated, so,yeah, probably a little worse than taking credit for giving some superhero his trademark cape n' cowel.

Nobody better get on my case for comparing Doc's post to blaming rape victims and justifying dictatorships. MiracloFiend started it.

Anyway, I know that mass murder is worse. That's not the point. Just because there are different levels of wrongitude, doesn't mean that smaller sins can't still be horrible.

 

[Andy C.]

ever heard about this: http://www.originalbatman.com/index.html

Don't know how much of that holds up, but it does bring up some interesting points.

And it's not like this sort of thing was uncommon in the early Golden Age. For years, DC claimed that Captain Marvel was a ripoff of Superman. Hell, Superman himself ripped off elements from Doc Savage and Flash Gordon. It's regrettable that so many people seemed to have gotten screwed over for their creations, but it happens.