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[DDS]

Mother of God. The Guard just kicked this whole threads ass.

Yeah I think we all owe him a beer for that.

 

[Doctor Jones]

We owe him alot of them. And if this film proves to what he says and I'm sure it will, we all should buy him a drink.

 

[FaT_tONle]

No, you didn't. You said to yourself "Hey this looks cool." I guarantee it. You didn't know what you were getting into because you weren't supposed to. Nobody was supposed to. If by some chance you knew what it was beforehand, then it was spoiled for you and that's all there is to it; that's not something to be proud of, let alone get elitist about.

Guess you have a point there... what can I say? Guard owned the **** out of me. I tip my hat off to him... but despite that... it will not change my perception of this film. I am expecting a 2 1/2 hour guilty pleasure of action, entertainment, sex, brutal violence, and stunning visuals with a story that is barely passable for the source material. Whether that changes or not after I see the film... or whether other people agree or disagree after seeing it... only time will tell.

 

[CaptainGenerica]

Guess you have a point there... what can I say? Guard owned the **** out of me. I tip my hat off to him... but despite that... it will not change my perception of this film. I am expecting a 2 1/2 hour guilty pleasure of action, entertainment, sex, brutal violence, and stunning visuals with a story that is barely passable for the source material. Whether that changes or not after I see the film... or whether other people agree or disagree after seeing it... only time will tell.

You did make some good points yourself. And I do see where you're coming from don't get me wrong.

Only time will tell.

BTW, in retrospect, "arrogant" and "elitist" were probably poor word choices on my part. I meant more like "indignant".

 

[Katsuro]

Guess you have a point there... what can I say? Guard owned the **** out of me. I tip my hat off to him... but despite that... it will not change my perception of this film. I am expecting a 2 1/2 hour guilty pleasure of action, entertainment, sex, brutal violence, and stunning visuals with a story that is barely passable for the source material. Whether that changes or not after I see the film... or whether other people agree or disagree after seeing it... only time will tell.

Yeah dude, I heard that in the movie, instead of giving this cool monologue about theromodynamic miracles on Mars, instead Doc Manhattan blows up a bunch of dudes and does some backflips. Also, instead of Nite Owl being impotent, he bangs like 30 chicks at once. And lets not forget how they're replacing Rorschach's troubled childhood flashback with a wire-fu Matrix-style fight against ninjas.

 

[Beanjuice]

Guard this if or you.

Spoiler

 

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah dude, I heard that in the movie, instead of giving this cool monologue about theromodynamic miracles on Mars, instead Doc Manhattan blows up a bunch of dudes and does some backflips. Also, instead of Nite Owl being impotent, he bangs like 30 chicks at once. And lets not forget how they're replacing Rorschach's troubled childhood flashback with a wire-fu Matrix-style fight against ninjas.

****ing awesome... I knew Snyder would come through... t:

Guard this if or you.

Spoiler

The game is not over yet. Let's see the film first before we start bathing Snyder with the annointing oil... Guard has done this already and maybe for good reason. I'll take his word that he has read the script and has been following every step of the production, but I am not sure most of you have an excuse.

 

[Beanjuice]

I dont need and excuse. Call it faith. I've seen nothing yet that has turned me off of this project. I had my doubts just like everyone else,but as time is going on i feel confident about the film. Even if its a let down i'll still appreciate the effort that went into it

 

[The Battousai]

The game is not over yet. Let's see the film first before we start bathing Snyder with the annointing oil...

...and you could cease your unfounded bashing until then, as well.

Guard has done this already and maybe for good reason. I'll take his word that he has read the script and has been following every step of the production, but I am not sure most of you have an excuse.

While The Guard has had the privilege of reading the script (which is not available to the public), many others here including myself who have not done so have been following just about every bit of news and interview pertaining to the film - not to mention readin Guard's synopsis of the draft he read.

Many of us are optimistic simply because we see WATCHMEN in each picture, interview, and trailer/tv spot.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

Mother of God. The Guard just kicked this whole threads ass.

Heh,perhaps,depending on who you are and what conclusion(s) you draw. But more importantly,he kicked FaT tOnIe's butt with his mind.

 

[Kane52630]

so no one cant find a decent watchmen superbowl tv spot?

 

[The Guard]

I am expecting a 2 1/2 hour guilty pleasure of action, entertainment, sex, brutal violence, and stunning visuals with a story that is barely passable for the source material.

Ok, let's do this the easy way. Let's stop talking in generalizations and discuss specifics. I'm not really interested in bashing your assessment of the project, I'm interested in easing your mind about it, because clearly whatever you've seen hasn't. What specifically do you think the film will not contain that is integral to the story as a cinematic experience? What themes, etc, do you think will not be touched on, explored, etc.

That goes for anyone. We're too close to the release to be speaking about it in such vague terms.

Many of us are optimistic simply because we see WATCHMEN in each picture, interview, and trailer/tv spot.

Exactly.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Ok, let's do this the easy way. Let's stop talking in generalizations and discuss specifics. I'm not really interested in bashing your assessment of the project, I'm interested in easing your mind about it, because clearly whatever you've seen hasn't. What specifically do you think the film will not contain that is integral to the story as a cinematic experience? What themes, etc, do you think will not be touched on, explored, etc.

I am just wondering why people are saying we'll be getting this deep, thematic film based on the limited footage we have. Of course Snyder will be passionate about the source material... of course he is going to copy and paste stuff from the novel... that doesn't mean the tone will be kept. I just see a lot of superficialities. When I read the comic I couldn't believe how plausible everything was. Now when I see the heroes looking like current superheroes... when I see Comedian and all these guys jumping ten feet down to the ground on a smooth landing, drop kicking prison guards ten feet in the air... it's just too much. Too much excessiveness... I can't discuss specifics on the film because I don't know what Snyder is changing/cutting content wise... all I see is the presentation. I know the ending has changed... but far as changes/cuts to content in general, I'd prefer to critic that stuff after I see the film. But in this footage... I don't see the impact this is having on the society. I mean I saw some behind the scenes footage... dialouge straight out of the text though. I see some shots of the president... okay... doesn't really say much. I see some riots... but again it's just footage and visuals. Will I see those little character moments from the everyday guys on the streets like the comics... or will those things be cut? I personally would like to find out when I see the film. The thing that bothers me is that Snyder is bringing the excessiveness to this film at least going by the footage... and if that's how they are selling the film... I am going not assume the real meat of the story is just going to be there. And I don't want spoilers from the script either... even if there maybe something in there that I'd like to hear.

 

[BestGirl]

I am just wondering why people are saying we'll be getting this deep, thematic film based on the limited footage we have. Of course Snyder will be passionate about the source material... of course he is going to copy and paste stuff from the novel... that doesn't mean the tone will be kept. I just see a lot of superficialities. When I read the comic I couldn't believe how plausible everything was. Now when I see the heroes looking like current superheroes... when I see Comedian and all these guys jumping ten feet down to the ground on a smooth landing, drop kicking prison guards ten feet in the air... it's just too much. Too much excessiveness... I can't discuss specifics on the film because I don't know what Snyder is changing/cutting content wise... all I see is the presentation. I know the ending has changed... but far as changes/cuts to content in general, I'd prefer to critic that stuff after I see the film. But in this footage... I don't see the impact this is having on the society. I mean I saw some behind the scenes footage... dialouge straight out of the text though. I see some shots of the president... okay... doesn't really say much. I see some riots... but again it's just footage and visuals. Will I see those little character moments from the everyday guys on the streets like the comics... or will those things be cut? I personally would like to find out when I see the film. The thing that bothers me is that Snyder is bringing the excessiveness to this films at least going by the footage... and if that's how they are selling the film... I am going not assume the real meat of the story is just going to be there. And I don't want spoilers from the script either... even if there maybe something in there that I'd like to hear.

I'm guessing because the GN was deep and thematic, and Snyder doesn't seem to have changed too much of the main plot except for the ending. Personally, I always thought there was something a little surreal about Watchmen in spite of Moore's attempts to ground his story in reality, so I don't much care about the implausibility of the characters' behavior. In regards to the "little character moments": I wouldn't expect to see those in a movie trailer. We'll just have to wait and see if they found their way into the movie.

 

[The Guard]

I am just wondering why people are saying we'll be getting this deep, thematic film based on the limited footage we have.

Because several drafts of the script bear this out. Even the thinnest, most basic version of the story had quite a bit of relevant depth to it. Hearing the actors, director, and darn near everyone else involved with the project talk about and show understanding of the thematic elements would tend to point to this as well.

WATCHMEN's themes aren't difficult. They just are.

And let's face it, even the more obvious, basic elements of WATCHMEN are fairly deep already. There's no reason to believe the film does not include these elements just based on the sequences in the trailer not showing them.

For instance, the sequence where Janey throws her earrings at Jon...do you think that's just in the movie for the "action and flash" of the earrings? No, it's there because they've kept the Jon/Janey interactions/themes intact.

Of course Snyder will be passionate about the source material... of course he is going to copy and paste stuff from the novel... that doesn't mean the tone will be kept.

It's more or less impossible NOT to keep the tone if you "copy and paste".

Which specific "tone" are you referring to anyway? WATCHMEN has many.

I just see a lot of superficialities. When I read the comic I couldn't believe how plausible everything was.

Some of the superficialities you're speaking of have another side to them, or exist simply because the book didn't bother to show them, but are nonetheless valuable to the scene (The Comedian getting down from the Owlship and doing what he does best). And some of them add meaning to existing scenes. For instance, Nite Owl and Silk Spectre's prison fight isn't just action. Apparently it becomes a sort of ongoing "release" sequence for them, following their escapades in the Owlship.

Now when I see the heroes looking like current superheroes...

You mean, sort of how they looked sort of like "current superheroes" in the book?

when I see Comedian and all these guys jumping ten feet down to the ground on a smooth landing

The Comedian is a trained superhero/soldier. I can do what he did in the Owlship shot, and I'm no athlete, so I don't have a hard time buying that he can, either. The man probably does it frequently. Nite Owl is a superhero in the prime of his life, and he's using his cape to slow his descent. In a world where we're asked to buy Dr. Manhattan, doesn't seem that much of a stretch.

drop kicking prison guards ten feet in the air...

That prisoner is maybe, MAYBE six feet tall. Probably a bit less.

In order to kick that man in the face, Nite Owl has his foot and leg at the height of...you guessed it...six feet. You know what happens to the prisoner after Nite Owl kicks him? He doesn't go flying through the air at all. He FALLS DOWN from the force of the kick.

How is that implausible or particularly excessive?

But in this footage... I don't see the impact this is having on the society.

I suppose that depends on what kind of "impact on society" you're talking about. Because in the second trailer alone:

-There are two sequences of adventures in Vietnam.
-There's a shot of a big EXPLOSION in New York City.
-There are five sequences of rioting public.
-And multiple sequences of Rorschach fighting cops

Trailer 1 has many of the same things.

And then there's this:

http://www.watchmencomicmovie.com/020409-watchmen-keane-act-news-video.php

I mean I saw some behind the scenes footage... dialouge straight out of the text though. I see some shots of the president... okay... doesn't really say much. I see some riots... but again it's just footage and visuals. Will I see those little character moments from the everyday guys on the streets like the comics... or will those things be cut?

Trailers are generally just footage, visuals, and little snippets of dialogue. You're not going to see the "very best" moments of the movie or story in it. Expecting to on any level is silly. And showing many such things in the trailer would be a mistake on the part of the studio.

As for will you see the everyday stuff? I guess it depends on which "everyday guys on the streets" you mean. Will you see all of it?

Click for spoilers. Don't click if you want to find out when you see the film.

Spoiler

No. Of course not. You're not going to see every single "street person" there is in the novel fleshed out, and I think you should already know that going into this project. It's silly to expect to see every little element of the story intact in a 2:30 film, or even a 3:30 film. The Bernies are there, though.

I personally would like to find out when I see the film. The thing that bothers me is that Snyder is bringing the excessiveness to this films at least going by the footage... and if that's how they are selling the film... I am going not assume the real meat of the story is just going to be there.

It's a trailer. Trailers for superhero movies are sold on flash. Hell, for that matter, trailers for almost anything are sold on flash.

But the film is not being sold on the trailers alone.

And no one is asking you to assume anything. You can see many of the "real meat" elements are present in behind the scenes clips, and even the trailers themselves.

I'm guessing because the GN was deep and thematic, and Snyder doesn't seem to have changed too much of the main plot except for the ending.

More or less.

 

[Kane52630]

they had a new TV spot for the pro bowl, i just saw it!!!!
it had some new footage and played that smashing pumpkins song

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

ah man...i missed it

 

[Kane52630]

ah man...i missed it

i hope someone has TVIO and upload it to youtube, it was really good

 

[Hurm...]

they had a new TV spot for the pro bowl, i just saw it!!!!
it had some new footage and played that smashing pumpkins song

Details?

 

[Kane52630]

Details?

well, they played that song i said earlier (finally they start using it again)
they had more footage of RR running before he jumped out of the building, in slow-mo
they had Laurie talking with Dan about something (i cant remember) but she was wearing one of those mint coats, so i think its when RR was outside and found those two walking together
and new footage of the clock tower in mars lifting up into the air, thats all i can think of

 

[Project862006]

hope some one recorded this i want to see this badly

 

[Rocker22]

Just saw it on the Grammy's. Great stuff.

 

[Kane52630]

Just saw it on the Grammy's. Great stuff.

was it the same as i mentioned

 

[Rocker22]

Seems like it.

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

i wanan see it so bad...i searched watchmen tv spots on youtube and put uploaded today...and all i got was this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5f8AjrrsAE