The Dark Knight Should Nolan hire Danny Elfman this time?

[CConn]

Yeah, Elfman does that too. (Not to say I don't like him)

Oh yeah (BR and Edward Scissorhands' scores were very similar, I thought), but my point was I haven't noticed it anymore than Williams or any other major composer.

As for the topic - which I don't think I ever addressed - simply put, the B89 score is probably my favorite score ever. Elfman may even be my favorite composer. However, Howard and Zimmer's score was also very good, a score I've never had any complaints about, and a score that fit with BB quite well. I really don't see any real need to change it for the sequel, or, more to the point, revert it back to what we had in the past.

I'm not one of those people who don't like or are ashamed of the previous films (the ones Elfman scored, at least), but I do like the musical seperation between BB and B89 and BR as, y'know, they are supposed to be seperate entities, and I wouldn't want to mess all of that up just to get Elfman's familiar melodies back in a Batman movie.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

No. I would like Zimmer and Howard to return and score TDK.

Bingo!

 

[Ronny Shade]

I'm sick of Danny Elfman

 

[Slipping_Halo]

I don't know if Danny Elfman himself should do it, but I think some semblance of the original Elfman score should be used. I don't say it because I think Nolan's Batman should be anything like Burton's, it's just that to me that music transcends the film to the point where it's just the Batman theme. I just see that as Batman's music no matter what form of Batman we're looking at. Obviously a rerecorded and reworked version is in order, but I think that basic motif should be present at least somewhat.

I liked the music from Begins, but it felt to me like it was missing that "Hero" score. It felt like it was leading up to something but didn't get there yet.

 

[KingOfDreams]

If it ain't broke why fix it? I liked the music in BB.

 

["V"]

Only if we can get Pat Hingle back as Gordon.

 

[IamtheBatman]

No. I would like Zimmer and Howard to return and score TDK.

Same here these two men did one hell of a job on the Batman Begins.

 

[Superman: Idols]

I liked Zimmer/Howard's score in the first, because it was PERFECT for the tone of Batman Begins, just like Elfman's was perfect for Tim Burton's. Now that the film is no longer about the beginning of Batman's career I'm sure that Zimmer and Howard's score will change to match the new movie. I don't want Elfman because he'd remind me too much of burton's batman and burton's version of the joker...which we won't see in this film.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Matt.S99]

Yes.

dont u wish

 

[drunkhomer]

i will be heart broken if dey dont bring back Zimmer and Howard

 

[Johnny Drama]

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Elfman hasn't done much aside from "Burton Bombs" in the last decade,

Are you ****ing kidding me? in the 80's and early 90's yes, but in the past decade he has only done 4. Big Fish, Charlie and The Chocolate Factory and Planet Of The Apes. What else has he brought us this decade?

"Desperate Housewives"
Spider-Man 2
Hulk
Red Dragon
Men in Black II

Barry Sonnenfeld's Intergalactic Guide to Comedy
Heartbreakers
Spy Kids
The Family Man
Proof of Life


And not to mention the up coming "Charlottes Web", "Meet The Robinsons" and "Hulk 2"

 

[Catman]

To begin with, I never said to bring back the old theme. So I agree with those who say that. But, I've also said numerous times in this thread that Elfman can compose new compositions.

Secondly, whoever says they don't want and there won't be ties between both franchises ARE SO WRONG! Are you aware that Larry Franco (who produced Begins) was also a producer on Batman Returns? So, right there you already have one tie between both franchises. So, if Larry Franco is involved with these Nolan films then why not Elfman? Cause people would think of Burton films? I doubt it! Elfman's music was used in the animated series and no one was bothered by it.

 

[super-t]

i do think they should at least omage the least bit of elfman's score in it, or at least have somting that sounds like it at least once in the movie.

 

[vibeke_T]

Hans Zimmer...hellooooooo. couldnt get any better

 

[Fenrir]

To begin with, I never said to bring back the old theme. So I agree with those who say that. But, I've also said numerous times in this thread that Elfman can compose new compositions.

Secondly, whoever says they don't want and there won't be ties between both franchises ARE SO WRONG! Are you aware that Larry Franco (who produced Begins) was also a producer on Batman Returns? So, right there you already have one tie between both franchises. So, if Larry Franco is involved with these Nolan films then why not Elfman? Cause people would think of Burton films? I doubt it! Elfman's music was used in the animated series and no one was bothered by it.

Question is, why change composers just for the heck of it? We've got two of highest profile composers collaborating on BB and here you are stuck up with Elfman. In my opinion, Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard at their best easily beat Elfman's finest scores any day. I don't see any reason for change.

 

[StorminNorman]

The difference between executive connections between the Burton and Nolan Bat-films is that they do not at all play an active role in what the movie audience sees and hears while they watch the movie.

That is the case when it comes with actors, props and musicians.

Bringing back Danny Elfman - or Elfman's work - would be similar to bringing back Pat Hingle or another minor Batman 89 character, or bringing back the extra-long Batmobile.

 

[BatB]

To be honest, as much as I love Elmans work, and I do. Howard and Zimmer have set up the music style for the new franchise and it makes sense that they continue it. Not that Im trying to knock Elfman, but much of his work has this very similar feeling to one another. Like its all part of one universe. I love the fact that he has a continuity in his work, thats cool as hell. But Howard and Newton have set the tone and style, let them work it.

 

[Dwarf lord]

You're basing your opinion on what you've heard before. If Elfman was hired he would write new compositions that would fit the tone Nolan is going for.

Is that not how one forms opinions? By taking knowledge of the past and applying it to the future?

 

[Dwarf lord]

To begin with, I never said to bring back the old theme. So I agree with those who say that. But, I've also said numerous times in this thread that Elfman can compose new compositions.

Secondly, whoever says they don't want and there won't be ties between both franchises ARE SO WRONG! Are you aware that Larry Franco (who produced Begins) was also a producer on Batman Returns? So, right there you already have one tie between both franchises. So, if Larry Franco is involved with these Nolan films then why not Elfman? Cause people would think of Burton films? I doubt it! Elfman's music was used in the animated series and no one was bothered by it.

Do you know anything about filmmaking? Production staff normally just gives money to the film and make sure it runs properly. They don't have much say tone wise. Once they hire the director, it's in his hands. That's not saying they can't fire him, but that rarely happens.

 

[7Hells]

I wouldnt mind them taking a few notes from Elfman for Jokers sake.
Some "circus" tendency themes for Jokers scenes could add to his sardonic nature.
I mean, lets face it, clowns are scary as is circus music when done right

btw Producers arent always just pocket books.

 

[Rayne]

I would seriously consider Clint Mansell if they didnt get the other 2 back. His style would fit very well with Batman AND Joker.

Right on, ant. Mansell would be the logical alternative, in my opinion, especially with the rumored "duality" theme in TDK, which I think is a staple of Mansell's work, as he often mixes vastly different sounds together and still maintain a cohesive score. Good suggestion.

 

[Darknightnomis]

No (Although I'm a big Danny Elfman fan. Oingo Boingo anyone?)

No one associate with the previous series of Batman movies should be associate with this series (accept Michael Ulsan).

 

[aquiles]

BBegins score was amazing. Really groundbracking genius the wat it kept the movie apart the other superhero flicks. Batman Begins its really a kind of a special thing among the so caled "superhero films" scores. No big march resembling the original Superman scores but sounding a litle diferent. I love Danny elfman in Batman and Batman returns as superhero is concerned. Really left me indeferent to him in Spider-man and Hulk. As far as I'm concerned leave Tim Burton, Sam Hamm, Bob Ringwood, Daniel Waters, Bo Welch, Akiva Goldsman, Elliot Goldenthal, Barbara Ling, Joel Schumacher and Danny Elfman away from this new series that it might become the BEST superhero series in movie history. They did their job in the past. Some did the best they could do. Other the worst I ever saw in Batman's almost 70 years. I say keep it fresh and in track with Batman Begins Nolans aproach.

i agree with you 110%

 

[Fanticon]

If the very last movie in this new reimagining of this franchise...I'd say the untitled BB threequel re introduced...but only at the end of the movie, the old Danny Elfman theme from the Burton Batman flix...I wouldn't have a problem with it...but if they re-hire any new music talent to help score the next movie or two...I go with Graeme Revell not Danny Elfman.

 

[drunkhomer]

Hans Zimmer...hellooooooo. couldnt get any better

EXACTLY!!!!!