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Sorry, I think 2 seasons max.
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I'm betting on one, but if it lasts two seasons I'll be surprised.
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I predict that they will change so many things to try and WB..oops, "CW" it to fit a teen/broad teen audience that it'll suffer creatively as well as suffer a lack of propper source material usage.
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I really like the idea of a show focused on Aquaman, but I think it should be interesting to see AlMiles stumble and fall with the character since all they know is one simple repeated formula.
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"A feature on CNN Money today has a research director from Horizon Media, a media buying firm, thinking that Mercy Reef may have some good chances for success. Here's what it said:
Adgate also said that "Aquaman", a spin-off of "Smallville," which chronicles the life of Clark Kent (Superman) as a teen also has a good shot of succeeding on the CW, the new network that is being created by the merger of CBS-owned UPN and the Time Warner-owned WB."
Sounds like chances are good for Aquaman!
Adgate also said that "Aquaman", a spin-off of "Smallville," which chronicles the life of Clark Kent (Superman) as a teen also has a good shot of succeeding on the CW, the new network that is being created by the merger of CBS-owned UPN and the Time Warner-owned WB."
Sounds like chances are good for Aquaman!
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Well, update at SHH! suggests that the answer may in fact be 0! CW might not even pick up the show. On one hand, it's a good thing cuz this show sounds terrible, but I was kinda curious to see just how this thing was supposed to work. I mean, who would he even fight? There's no major event that could cause a large number of potential villains (the meteor shower creating kryptonite freaks), so would they try to bring in comic book villains or what?
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I thought it would only go one, but the CW is thinking about not even picking the show up at all.
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I don't think that it would have lasted a full year anyhow.
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I don't understand why people are being so hard on this show, geez some of you people are already saying it's going to fail when we barely know anything about it. Smallville didn't sound so intriguing when it was first pitched, but look at how suceesfull it is now. If you keep harping on the show it won't get even get a chance to gain it's sea legs. Honestly most people only have the version of the superfriends aquaman, just a guy who can talk to fish, but he is so much more. Maybe you guys should just be positve and supportive.
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God I hope ULTRA isn't picked up instead of MERCY REEF.
Mercy Reef is going to be a GREAT show. Bermuda Triangle. Super hero. Ving Rhames. I mean, this show is (would) be awesome!!!
The mini-series, I know it's of no correlation to the topic at hand, THE TRIANGLE was amazing. And just seeing something like that along side a super hero story would be really cool.
Mercy Reef is going to be a GREAT show. Bermuda Triangle. Super hero. Ving Rhames. I mean, this show is (would) be awesome!!!
The mini-series, I know it's of no correlation to the topic at hand, THE TRIANGLE was amazing. And just seeing something like that along side a super hero story would be really cool.
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i hate to admitt it, but i don't see this thing doing very well, and even if it does, i prolly won't be able to see it here in Australia 
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Maybe CW is afraid of another Birds of Prey happening.
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The WB got lucky with Smallville... They had damn near the perfect cast, and at the time a bunch of writers who were hungry to be seen in hollywood, and so they crafted a neat new take on the Superman mythos...
This time around I think they are trying to copy Smallville a bit much, and are getting away from the true character of Aquaman.
They need to go back to the drawing board, and hire some REAL actors... Even tho Ving Rhames is an awsome choice to be in the show.
He's one of the best actors working today IMO...
I hope they fix whatever is wrong with the cast, and or show cus id love to see what Al & Miles can do with the character of Aquaman.. They after all co-wrote Spiderman 2... They know Superheros, and how to write them well.
I also hope that they write the script for a major motion picture of The Green Lantern!
That's what their next project should be IMO...
God what a mess that was... Al & Miles weren't attached to that thing I don't think... Awsome concept but they messed up with poor writting, and terrible acting.
The main chick was hot tho! lol
This time around I think they are trying to copy Smallville a bit much, and are getting away from the true character of Aquaman.
They need to go back to the drawing board, and hire some REAL actors... Even tho Ving Rhames is an awsome choice to be in the show.
He's one of the best actors working today IMO...
I hope they fix whatever is wrong with the cast, and or show cus id love to see what Al & Miles can do with the character of Aquaman.. They after all co-wrote Spiderman 2... They know Superheros, and how to write them well.
I also hope that they write the script for a major motion picture of The Green Lantern!
That's what their next project should be IMO...
Lighthouse said:
God what a mess that was... Al & Miles weren't attached to that thing I don't think... Awsome concept but they messed up with poor writting, and terrible acting.
The main chick was hot tho! lol
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I miss Birds of Prey. The dialogue was rough, but alot of it was pretty cool.
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Miles and Gough were not connected with birds of prey.
Why Ultra is not a promising choice
Taking ULTRA instead of MERCY REEF- that article has to be a joke. Because after seeing what has happened to superheroine shows and movies of the past- I mean, no offense.... super girls are hot, but their not great for translation. I mean, if you look at the past:
Elektra- sucked
Catwoman- don't even start
Birds of Pray- cancelled in a heartbeat...
The list goes on. Female superheroes just, for whatever reason- work. Or at least that is what recent translations have shown. On page, these superheroines even it up and show 'female' strength. But, that doesn't translate that well to films and TV shows. While as shows and films about superheroes almost never fail- can't think of one that did.
I'm not meaning to be sexist. I've seen both films and gave BIRDS OF PREY a chance. But, even statistics state that odds are greatly against ULTRA. Female superheroes, fail in box office and in ratings. While the same can't be said about guy superheroes.
But, if you also take a look in the differences. Not many guys want to watch Charmed- albiet, the girls are really hot. But, alot of it is filled with "girl talk" more or less. Thus, taking a girl with powers and turning it into a show will dramatically (once again) somewhat narrow the broader audience that the WB, and probably CW, aim to achieve.
Other shows, such as SMALLVILLE, manage to draw in a heavy male and female fanbase. MERCY REEF, would most likely do the same and thus also be broader in it's fanbase than say a show like ULTRA. Might just be a guy thing that watching a show where the characters mostly talk "girl talk" is difficult and not a great viewing experience, while as for girls it's different- guys can be guys and the female audience doesn't have a problem with it. Not the other way around, this might be why say- SMALLVILLE has a broad fanbase while BIRDS OF PREY was very limited. A great experiment would be having BIRDS OF PREY, but rather than the girls have characters like Nightwing and see what happens.
Note: ALIAS, even though a major hit, also suffers from the same problem. When I told one of my friends that JJ Abrams (MI3 director & creator of LOST) was also behind Alias- he asked "Isn't that a chick's show?" Even though, now I know that not to be the case. Many guys have preconcieved notions about a show and don't watch it because of the belief that it is a "chick's show."
Smallville
Smallville is a great example of a show that works.
For the guys it's got action, relatable characters and life, great stories, etc. Personally, I see parts of Clark and Lex in myself- what should I say, rich kids are typically always slightly 'arrogant' and more often than not- as a result- 'loners'. It is a really great guy's show. BUT, it also manages to bring in the female viewers- ALOT actually which is hard to believe considering that the show is about Superman and getting the girl of your dreams... Lana, and the dramatic split between friends- good vs. bad.
It's an epic story that really does a great job of showing Clark Kent grow up. I've grown up, in a sense, along side CK- only being a year difference. Thus, I could REALLY relate to the character. Unfortunately, however, as we all know- SMALLVILLE is nearing the end. Clark Kent is slowly and gradually becoming the Man of Steel. And I think that it is important to have a show that can take over once it is gone.
Mercy Reef
And MERCY REEF is that show, not Ultra. Mercy Reef will draw on the same audience. The cast that the show has asembled is great- in my opinion. I really liked the re-casting of AC, Justin Hartley, has a real 'super hero' sort of vibe about him unlike the original actor brought in to play the role. Then you've got Adrianne Palicki playing the Siren, from what I saw- she's a great actress... both in SUPERNATURAL & in her appearence on SMALLVILLE. Virtually unknowns, which is good. As an aspiring director, unknowns typically are a great way to go- as stated in a recent interview, Bryan Singer hired Brandon Routh (for SR) because he was an unknown. Unknowns allow the audience to get more into the story, rather than going 'oh, that's so and so' for example instead of saying 'oh, that's AC' for instance. Don't complain about unknowns- because, did you know about Tom Welling, Kristin Kreuk, Michael Rosenbaum, or Allison Mack before SMALLVILLE? The answer would probably be no.
But, for the names that we do have- it's really awesome. I mean, Ving Rhames? He's a REALLY famous actor who's been around for a long time. So, for big names in the cast- that's pretty big. Then you've got Lou Diamond Phillips, who if you've seen The Triangle know that he's also a great actor and is already familiar with the legends concerning the Bermuda Triangle. So, of the two names of 'big' and big name actor's we've got- the cast is REALLY well assembled.
As I said before, and as many other sources have been stating- MERCY REEF really is a show bound for success. Gough & Millar are great writers and creators that know the superhero realm. Although not credited officially with SM2 their draft was an obvious inspiration and the official groundworking for the film. Much of SM2 reminded me of Smallville (in a way), so to know that they were involved is not that much of a shock- because they definitely know how to tell a compelling story.
All in all, Mercy Reef looks to be the sure champion of the superhero shows to come. Great cast. Bermuda Trianlge. Ving Rhames. The list of pros of the show go on and on... MERCY REEF is a definite bet.
Why Ultra is not a promising choice
Taking ULTRA instead of MERCY REEF- that article has to be a joke. Because after seeing what has happened to superheroine shows and movies of the past- I mean, no offense.... super girls are hot, but their not great for translation. I mean, if you look at the past:
Elektra- sucked
Catwoman- don't even start
Birds of Pray- cancelled in a heartbeat...
The list goes on. Female superheroes just, for whatever reason- work. Or at least that is what recent translations have shown. On page, these superheroines even it up and show 'female' strength. But, that doesn't translate that well to films and TV shows. While as shows and films about superheroes almost never fail- can't think of one that did.
I'm not meaning to be sexist. I've seen both films and gave BIRDS OF PREY a chance. But, even statistics state that odds are greatly against ULTRA. Female superheroes, fail in box office and in ratings. While the same can't be said about guy superheroes.
But, if you also take a look in the differences. Not many guys want to watch Charmed- albiet, the girls are really hot. But, alot of it is filled with "girl talk" more or less. Thus, taking a girl with powers and turning it into a show will dramatically (once again) somewhat narrow the broader audience that the WB, and probably CW, aim to achieve.
Other shows, such as SMALLVILLE, manage to draw in a heavy male and female fanbase. MERCY REEF, would most likely do the same and thus also be broader in it's fanbase than say a show like ULTRA. Might just be a guy thing that watching a show where the characters mostly talk "girl talk" is difficult and not a great viewing experience, while as for girls it's different- guys can be guys and the female audience doesn't have a problem with it. Not the other way around, this might be why say- SMALLVILLE has a broad fanbase while BIRDS OF PREY was very limited. A great experiment would be having BIRDS OF PREY, but rather than the girls have characters like Nightwing and see what happens.
Note: ALIAS, even though a major hit, also suffers from the same problem. When I told one of my friends that JJ Abrams (MI3 director & creator of LOST) was also behind Alias- he asked "Isn't that a chick's show?" Even though, now I know that not to be the case. Many guys have preconcieved notions about a show and don't watch it because of the belief that it is a "chick's show."
Smallville
Smallville is a great example of a show that works.
For the guys it's got action, relatable characters and life, great stories, etc. Personally, I see parts of Clark and Lex in myself- what should I say, rich kids are typically always slightly 'arrogant' and more often than not- as a result- 'loners'. It is a really great guy's show. BUT, it also manages to bring in the female viewers- ALOT actually which is hard to believe considering that the show is about Superman and getting the girl of your dreams... Lana, and the dramatic split between friends- good vs. bad.
It's an epic story that really does a great job of showing Clark Kent grow up. I've grown up, in a sense, along side CK- only being a year difference. Thus, I could REALLY relate to the character. Unfortunately, however, as we all know- SMALLVILLE is nearing the end. Clark Kent is slowly and gradually becoming the Man of Steel. And I think that it is important to have a show that can take over once it is gone.
Mercy Reef
And MERCY REEF is that show, not Ultra. Mercy Reef will draw on the same audience. The cast that the show has asembled is great- in my opinion. I really liked the re-casting of AC, Justin Hartley, has a real 'super hero' sort of vibe about him unlike the original actor brought in to play the role. Then you've got Adrianne Palicki playing the Siren, from what I saw- she's a great actress... both in SUPERNATURAL & in her appearence on SMALLVILLE. Virtually unknowns, which is good. As an aspiring director, unknowns typically are a great way to go- as stated in a recent interview, Bryan Singer hired Brandon Routh (for SR) because he was an unknown. Unknowns allow the audience to get more into the story, rather than going 'oh, that's so and so' for example instead of saying 'oh, that's AC' for instance. Don't complain about unknowns- because, did you know about Tom Welling, Kristin Kreuk, Michael Rosenbaum, or Allison Mack before SMALLVILLE? The answer would probably be no.
But, for the names that we do have- it's really awesome. I mean, Ving Rhames? He's a REALLY famous actor who's been around for a long time. So, for big names in the cast- that's pretty big. Then you've got Lou Diamond Phillips, who if you've seen The Triangle know that he's also a great actor and is already familiar with the legends concerning the Bermuda Triangle. So, of the two names of 'big' and big name actor's we've got- the cast is REALLY well assembled.
As I said before, and as many other sources have been stating- MERCY REEF really is a show bound for success. Gough & Millar are great writers and creators that know the superhero realm. Although not credited officially with SM2 their draft was an obvious inspiration and the official groundworking for the film. Much of SM2 reminded me of Smallville (in a way), so to know that they were involved is not that much of a shock- because they definitely know how to tell a compelling story.
All in all, Mercy Reef looks to be the sure champion of the superhero shows to come. Great cast. Bermuda Trianlge. Ving Rhames. The list of pros of the show go on and on... MERCY REEF is a definite bet.
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