Smokin' Aces (NEW Joe"Narc"Carnahan film)

Yeah, I'd seen Cheadle on the IMDB page awhile ago...


But, the film is already wrapped??? Damn...that was fast...
 
I want a trailer or pics.

NOW.

This movie sounds so good. And it has Ray ****ing Liotta in it. Brilliant actor.
 
Good find donnie,this film sounds better and better,im with Carmine though we need a trailer:mad: :up:
 
Some pics

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Thank you thank you thank you :) :)


...however...must...have...MORE!!!
 
Piven, Reynolds, and Liotta are quality. Some of my favorite actors. Cant wait for this.
 
I don't know what is taking so long for a trailer or even official pics....it is worth the wait however!
 
This looks sweeeeet!
 
Supposedly they did preview screenings just a couple minutes from me...at the Ridgefield Park Theater in Bergen County, NJ...


...and I wasn't informed!! DAMMIT :mad:

...but the word of mouth is good...
 
skorponok said:
WHOA...The Fleck can now officially add "Pimpin' mutha f**ka" to his resume...:eek:



I wanna see larger versions of these...because these look GOOD...

They most certainly do and curse you not being informed:mad:
 
LOL, I wonder if Reynolds pissed off Liotta as much as he did Snipes.
 
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23491

Joe 'NARC' Carnahan's SMOKING ACES has been seen at its first test screening!


Hey folks, Harry here... Every now and again we get an advance review of a film. This time, it's an advance review of a film that isn't due for release till April 6th, 2007... and it sounds like the movie is ****ing great! That doesn't hurt much, does it. Especially when I seem to be stuck in a sea of ****ty summer slop. I just hope, that if this movie really is that far from coming out... that they take their time honing it - till Carnahan has it just the way he wants it - then they use that time left to build word on the film. Instead of doing undue tinkering on the film, use that time to get people buzzing. Cuz after these two reviews - I know I'm buzzing on this follow-up to NARC. Which was a ****ing great film! Here ya go with a couple of lightly spoilerish reviews...

Hey guys, BC here. It's been awhile, work and such, not to mention a lack of invites I had any interest in seeing (I highly doubt they'd want my opinions on Nacho Libre, which honestly looks like the worst movie ever made). Anyway, I just got back from a test screening of Joe Carnahan's followup to NARC, which is called SMOKIN' ACES. Some spoilers follow, sort of unavoidable.

Film starts with 2 FBI agents (Ryan Reynolds and Ray Liotta) listening into phone conversations of some mob boss. The topic is Buddy "Aces" Israel, a mafia goon/vegas entertainer who has decided to turn state's evidence against the mafia family head, Sparazza. A hit has been ordered on Buddy for 1 million, which means every hit man in the world is going to come after him trying to collect. We are introduced to 7 different hitmen, all with their own quirks and backstories. Complicating matters, Buddy has holed up in a Lake Tahoe penthouse, skipping out on his bail in the process. So there are also 3 bail bondsmen (Ben Affleck, Peter Berg, Martin Henderson) trying to bring Israel back. So it's up to the 2 feds (and Andy Garcia as their superior) to bring Buddy back or else they don't have a case.

Now, there's nothing wrong with that setup, except the fact that this is all spooled out to us in 20 nonstop minutes of exposition. And I'm leaving out the histories of the different hit men, as well as some other information about an undercover fed, some other mafia guys, etc.

So once every character is introduced (complete with the ever annoying "character name" titles) and we are given a whole movies' worth of information at once, the actual movie begins, which is close to a realtime account of all these different teams and sides closing in on Buddy at the hotel. Needless to say, paths are crossed, some good guys are killed, some bad guys get away, etc. The whole thing ends in a bloody shooutout that one ups the similar one from True Romance by having it take place in 2 areas, before a somewhat telegraphed twist is revealed in Usual Suspects style montage of flashbacks.

The odd thing is you have a movie with all these pretty hilarious people (I didnt even mention Jason Bateman and Curtis Armstrong who show up as lawyers): Reynolds, Piven, Affleck (and YES, the man is quite funny, just listen to one of his commentaries for Pearl Harbor or Armageddon), and the screening invite even listed it as a comedy, and yet it's one of the darkest and even somewhat depressing movies i've seen in a while. Sure, there are funny parts (Bateman is hilarious, and Piven gets to be Piven in one scene before he gets coked out of his mind and spends the rest of the movie basically crying or looking dazed), and a completely bizarre and pointless subplot about a little kid who plays with nunchucks (reminiscent of the "PANCAKES!" kid in Cabin Fever but in this case, not funny in the slightest), but for the most part, its played straight and dark.

However I am not knocking on it, in fact i was a bit relieved. It would be fair to label the movie as a Tarantino wannabe, but not the popculture/everyone is hipper than everyone else way that stereotype usually brings to mind. Instead, it's the tight plotting/careful use of flashback/multiple stories colliding side of Tarantino, aka the interesting side, which is refreshing. In a way, it was actually brilliant casting, because you expect things to get funny and instead they just get darker and darker, and not in a comedic way. Reynolds is actually quite good as an FBI agent, and it's nice to see Piven get to do something other than be the slimy jerk and/or sarcastic friend. Most surprising was Alicia Keys, in what I believe is her film debut, as one of the hitmen. She's playing a role, not parlaying her popstar status into a glorified version of a music video character, as most pop stars do in their debuts (Aaliyah's ridiculous dance sequence in Romeo Must Die comes to mind). All of the acting is quite good across the board, and the heavy unloading at the beginning actually works once the film gets going because there are no obvious "main" characters and therefore when someone dies it isn't entirely expected. Only gripe here is a cameo late in the film. I despise cameos, especially when they come late in a film and you're fully into the story and suddenly taken out of it by the appearance by the star of a hit TV show (IMDb hasnt spoiled it yet, neither will I).

I must admit I haven't seen Narc yet, though I am definitely more interested in doing so now. The brief amount of action makes me wonder what Carnahan could have done with MI3. His script is tight, and although I was initially annoyed with the nonstop barrage of exposition at the beginning, once the film gets going you'll realize it was for the best, as slowly dealing out the exposition would have killed the pace. Bizarrely, someone on IMDb who went to a previous test said the film was like Saw and Seven, so either the film has been completely re-edited or the guy is just an idiot, as it is nothing like those (one hitman is known to torture his victims, but thats about 30 seconds of the movie?), and it seemed pretty tight to me, no obvious re-editing or gaps in the storytelling.

Anyway, it's not coming out till 2007, but it looked finished to me other than the temp score, which for the most part worked perfectly despite being recognizable (Thin Red Line for example). Fans of Snatch and other crime ensembles should enjoy it, provided they have the patience to deal with the opening in order to get to the satisfactory payoff. I just hope Universal is smart enough not to use what little funny stuff it has and try to market it as a comedy to appeal to the actors' usual audiences. BC

God damn that sounds ****ing great. Watch out for heavier spoilers here...

Hello Harry

First time writing in, but I just saw a screening in Burbank of ?Smokin? Aces? and wanted to give you a little scoop on it.

First of all, when this comes out, the marketing folks may have you believe that this is a Ben Affleck flick. And this will usually send millions of discerning moviegoers into a fit of rage. He?s in it. But for, like, ten minutes. And he is just one small part of a pretty massive cast. So, no, this isn?t an Affleck movie. This is Joe Carnahan?s movie. Actually, more appropriately, this is a Tony Scott movie.

Years ago, Carnahan was billed as the next big thing after ?Narc? got some good attention. I dug that movie, but have since forgotten it except for brief images of a husky Ray Liotta beating the **** out of Jason Patric. After that, though, he seemed to drop off of the map (except as the initial pick to direct ?MI:3?). So, it?s pretty interesting to see where he has chosen to go with his next big movie.

He wrote and directed this and it seems like he did so after repeatedly watching ?True Romance? and ?Domino? for a few months, throwing in ?The Big Lebowski? for some occasional yucks. Tons of grimy characters populate this film and their storylines are rapidly intercut for two hours. Contract killers, mob bosses, bail bondsmen, nihilistic neo-nazis, coked-up entertainers, and, of course, the Feds all cross paths in a fast-paced race to get to a mob informant who is holed up in a Lake Tahoe casino.

Here?s the rundown on the cast & story:

Jeremy Piven (in a coked-up, less-sympathetic version of Ari Gold) is Buddy ?Aces? Israel, a Vegas magician who got close to the mob and is about to rat them out. Ryan Reynolds (finally, toning it down and acquitting himself, probably, the best of the whole cast) and Ray Liotta (awesome as always) are the FBI agents who are working with Andy Garcia (with an indecipherable and inconsistent accent) to get him to the safety of the witness protection program. The problem is that the mob has put a $1 million pricetag on his head and every hitman/woman (including Alicia Keys, who is looking quite deliciously full-bodied), as well as lowlife bail bondsmen (Affleck, Peter Berg, and the main guy from ?Torque?), is after that bounty. In the meantime, ?Aces? is spiraling down into a cocaine haze that doesn?t do wonders for him valuing his own life.

Now, the downside to intercutting about 7 storylines is that I inevitably had my favorite characters who were swept off the screen more rapidly than I?d like. Carnahan throws in tons of style (though not as distractlingly as Scott has done in several cases). And there?s enough story (with a required unique twist). But his focus is really with each character he puts in the screen. When he did this in moments that seemed despite the story, I found myself getting a little peeved, but, in my post-screening chats, all of the little character moments that seemed to be complete non-sequiters were the bits that we were recounting the most. Especially, the two scenes with the ****ing brilliant Jason Bateman and two other scenes with an ADD-riddled, one-eyed kid who is quite fond of his ghetto kung-fu skills.

While I?m not sure if Carnahan has truly found his own style just yet, he seems to be learning from his own set of favorite directors and has crafted a really solid version of their work. Where he does excel is with the comic interactions between mismatched characters and with some of the most brutal gunfights I?ve seen in a while (Ray Liotta?s battle in an elevator was an absolute highlight). He also manages to tie up the many loose ends that this kind of movie could have with a staggering body count of ?name? actors.

If you use this, call me Oxberger. [/B]
 
The action looks insane and the cast is awesome, this movie cannot fail. :eek:
 
Mentok said:
I never saw NARC is it good?

Yes IMO but nothing like that teaser,it's a bleak cop thriller in the mould of things like The French Connection
 
Master Chief said:
The action looks insane and the cast is awesome, this movie cannot fail. :eek:
Yeah i was surprised how action heavy it looks,very cool,did you spot Affleck ?

Oh and Alicia Keys looks yummy:O
 

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