No Way Home Spider-Man: No Way Home Original Discussion Thread

[Frodo]

That's precisely why I'm excited. We all thought this was gonna be about Kraven hunting a fugitive Spidey, but it's far less easy to predict now.

Definitely. I suspect that the casting of JK Simmons in retrospect, and Mysterio's talk of the "multiverse", was a hint that Sony and Marvel were going that direction for a third film.

I know there's some speculation that Feige and Sony are just rushing this in response to Flashpoint, but I don't buy it.

If they indeed are going for Maguire, Garfield, Foxx , etc, in addition to the multiverse, you don't just do something like that on the fly and wing it from there. This is a major project.

It would mean that the talks and planning have been in play for a year at least.

They've been cooking this awhile. It's just that as fans we assumed the story was going to be one thing and one way.

 

[Nardz937]

Grace's update. Make of it what you will. It conflicts with what FandomWire and Andy have been saying which is that Tobey/Andrew have both been signed since before the pandemic.


It seems odd they'd be negotiating still while already filming. You'd think they'd 100% have who they need on board by now.

 

[Frodo]

Grace and Andy seem to have a beef with each other .

I think this news may depend on who has the most recent inside word.

The news Grace has may be from a source who has news based on older information , while Andy has news which is based on more recent developments.

 

[kguillou]

Trying not to get too excited because it could all very likely be a load of BS but...damn seeing all three Spidermen swinging through NYC, that would be incredible.

If theyre giving Jon Watts though, of all people, this project then he better not blow it.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I actually could believe a scenario of Toby wanting more screentime. one of the issues with Holland leading a Spiderverse movie is just how much is shared out to the other spider-men and really the appeal of them being in their suit is always gonna be stronger than seeing them out of the suit.

And issue with late negotiations is that it means their roles were written to be reworkable if needed.

 

[Frodo]

I actually could believe a scenario of Toby wanting more screentime. one of the issues with Holland leading a Spiderverse movie is just how much is shared out to the other spider-men and really the appeal of them being in their suit is always gonna be stronger than seeing them out of the suit.

And issue with late negotiations is that it means their roles were written to be reworkable if needed.

That could be the case , but again, Grace's information could be old news as opposed to something recent.

So it could be true that Toby wants more screentime , and they've already given him that , thus what Grace is hearing is part of negotiations that have already occurred and have been agreed to .

The thing about these kind of rumors or scuttlebutt to scoopers,is that the information can sometimes be several weeks or months old by the time the source talks to a scooper like Andy or Grace. The news isn't always up to the minute in terms of being current.

The Grace may have heard it recently, but what's being relayed to them may be considered older information without updated info. That's why you'll often get infomation which slightly conflicts with each other but is pointing in the same direction.

In this case , while Andy and Grace's info may differ slightly, they're both pointing to Maguire and Garfield being in the film.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

Grace's update. Make of it what you will. It conflicts with what FandomWire and Andy have been saying which is that Tobey/Andrew have both been signed since before the pandemic.


It seems odd they'd be negotiating still while already filming. You'd think they'd 100% have who they need on board by now.

Grace Randolph is an idiot, I trust her with this information about as far I can throw her. I highly doubt they're still hashing out story ideas in the middle of filming and when we might be getting a teaser trailer in two months.

 

[kguillou]

Out of boredom I watched Andy Signore’s video where he talks about his scoop and well.... if nothing else this guy seems 110% certain of his info. Hes not backing down and he seems sure Tobey and Andrew are signed. I admire him for sticking to his guns but if this aint true thats big yolk on his face. Lol

 

[Toomes' Phone]

Out of boredom I watched Andy Signore’s video where he talks about his scoop and well.... if nothing else this guy seems 110% certain of his info. Hes not backing down and he seems sure Tobey and Andrew are signed. I admire him for sticking to his guns but if this aint true thats big yolk on his face. Lol

As a rule I don't trust these so-called "scoopers". The only one I think is worth heeding is DanielRPK, and even he's missed the mark.

 

[ImSGirl95]

Ugghh.. that's why I say enough with them scoops, and just bring us some real confirmation, Sony!

 

[Toomes' Phone]

Its probably going to be a while before Holland can get on set. Once he’s done with Uncharted, whenever that is, I assume he’ll need to self quarantine for a couple weeks before he start filming this right?

Filming for SM3 is expected to wrap sometime in February. I can't imagine him being on set any later than late October or early November.

 

[Inhuman117]

Grace's update. Make of it what you will. It conflicts with what FandomWire and Andy have been saying which is that Tobey/Andrew have both been signed since before the pandemic.


It seems odd they'd be negotiating still while already filming. You'd think they'd 100% have who they need on board by now.

The whole cast not filming yet , the only one i think who filming their Scenes are Cumberbatch because he is needed for Strange 2 later this Month/November and extras because i dont know if Holland is still Filming Uncharted or Finished his part

 

[Schlosser85]

The whole cast not filming yet , the only one i think who filming their Scenes are Cumberbatch because he is needed for Strange 2 later this Month/November and extras because i dont know if Holland is still Filming Uncharted or Finished his part

Holland is still in Spain filming Uncharted.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I don't trust Grace Randolph, but regardless, I think both Maguire and Garfield have been signed on already. Personal opinion.

 

[ImSGirl95]

I think both Maguire and Garfield have been signed on already. Personal opinion.

From your mouth to God's ears.

 

[Lip]

Of course I'm dying to see Maguire and Garfield back. But I'd like to see Dunst and Stone back too. And Stone as Spider-Gwen.

 

[Green Goblin]

Really thinking there's too much in this movie.

Multi-Verse Sinister Six, Doctor Strange, TWO other Spider-Men, Kraven's introduction and the resolution of the identity reveal.

This could be like SM3/TASM2 on steroids in terms of too much.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

I can't say that I disagree with you there, but we still don't know what the main story of this movie will be or how any of it connects. I have a little more faith in Feige too and thank god he is still involved with these Sony Spider-Man movies, because otherwise I would be very worried, especially if they had Kurtzman writing the script or if Avi Arad was producing. I mean for all we know it still could end up being a huge mess, but I'm willing to stay more optimistic than usual because of the people involved and what they have given us so far.

 

[Airwings]

I think they brought him back because he is electro. simple as that. i ain't sure they need extra star power from one actor.

I think you're wrong. It wasn't just the character but the actor as well. Electro wasn't really a well-done character in ASM2.
If the villain had been played by a lesser known and was portrayed in a similar way, they would likely have scrapped him for decades.
The conclusion is that Foxx is the main draw here.

 

[Airwings]

Frodo, can you please answer to my comment on your post?

The new level of scope in superhero films is going to be amazing if it's done successfully, and doesn't feel forced.

You mention CW's Crisis. It brought in a lot of old, but not all. Burt Ward was picked for this big event instead of Lynda Carter, Helen Slater and Dean Cain (but these three played other characters earlier in Arrowverse). Guess we can't get everything.
If Marvel does something similar, could Nicholas Hammond have the chance to return just as Ward did? Or is 70s Spider-Man best left in the past?

For Marvel characters (other than Spidey), it would be interesting to revist the two Hulks Eric Bana and Edward Norton (but the latter IS actually MCU and not separated, even though it's another actor than Ruffalo).
Then there's Lou Ferrigno. I can't possible imagine how that version will work in a MCU multiverse. But it IS a classic, and it runned for 12 years or something.

And the X-men of course. But without Patrick Stewart. Because of Logan, he decided to leave the character behind him. Though he revealed he would have returned if he didn't star in that film.
Hugh Jackman has said something similar. In the early days of MCU, he was ready to step over. Probably some of the other OT cast could do it, or any of the FC/Apocalypse actors. But not before MCU has cast their own X-men.

What I wouldn't enjoy seeing again is any of the two 2000s versions of FF.

Looking at your post, you didn't bring up projects or castings that never became finished films. Are these still canon in some weird way?
Burton/Cage (Superman)
Cruise (Iron Man)
Cameron/DiCaprio (Spider-Man)

 

[Arachnerd]

Really thinking there's too much in this movie.

Multi-Verse Sinister Six, Doctor Strange, TWO other Spider-Men, Kraven's introduction and the resolution of the identity reveal.

This could be like SM3/TASM2 on steroids in terms of too much.

Keep in mind that none of this has been officially confirmed yet.

 

[Kev4000]

Really thinking there's too much in this movie.

Multi-Verse Sinister Six, Doctor Strange, TWO other Spider-Men, Kraven's introduction and the resolution of the identity reveal.

This could be like SM3/TASM2 on steroids in terms of too much.

I fear identity reveal will not a huge thing like May finds out Peters secret... Just please give Holland more character moments please. I want drama > action.
But on the other hand I could see Garfield/Maguire could give him some advices on that topic.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I fear identity reveal will not a huge thing like May finds out Peters secret... Just please give Holland more character moments please. I want drama > action.
But on the other hand I could see Garfield/Maguire could give him some advices on that topic.

When you say that, all i remember if how FFH was pretty much a comedy. this spider-man is a comedy with some dramatic elements, soaked in fun.

I think you're wrong. It wasn't just the character but the actor as well. Electro wasn't really a well-done character in ASM2.
If the villain had been played by a lesser known and was prortrayed in a similar way, they would likely have scrapped him for decades.
The conclusion is that Foxx is the main draw here.

I think thats more of an old fashion view that will be proven wrong after Wandavision, Maybe SM3 and Dr Strange. i don't think the reception to Electro means anything for them bringing the character back.

One thing you do not need is Jamie Foxx star power for SM3. you didn't need it for FFH. you don't need it for a SM3. even more so if they end up getting loads more actors in too.

Infact with the Multiverse of Madness i wonder how far they will go with that. i could see some surprising characters returning from past Marvel movies. maybe even Fantastic 4 from the Tim Story films. and yeah sure people will say WHY? THEY SUCKED! but then id answer... why the hell not? you think using them will make people not watch the film? if anything people will be more amazed this crossover happened at all.

Of course I'm dying to see Maguire and Garfield back. But I'd like to see Dunst and Stone back too. And Stone as Spider-Gwen.

That would actually be genius of a way to use Emma Stones Gwen. the only reason i doubt it is because they may decide they wanna branch off Spider-gwen into her own movies and may wanna pay for younger cheaper actress who hasn't played the character before.

 

[The Infernal]

I have to wonder if a multiverse story for SM3 could be a way to undo Peter being outed as Spider-man.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I have to wonder if a multiverse story for SM3 could be a way to undo Peter being outed as Spider-man.

Probably. you can't really continue with everyone knowing he is Spider-man. and it also makes for a fairly conflicting way to end the trilogy.