No Way Home Spider-Man: No Way Home Original Discussion Thread

[Loden Greatstorm]

I don't trust Grace Randolph, but regardless, I think both Maguire and Garfield have been signed on already. Personal opinion.

I did too but deadline and HR would have reported it if it were true. I'm starting to worry.

 

[ImSGirl95]

I'm starting to worry.

Me too

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Me too

Yep... seems like a pipe dream now.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

I did too but deadline and HR would have reported it if it were true. I'm starting to worry.

Yeah, I don't think we're getting Maguire and Garfield back for this either. It's a little late for that now. However, this does not rule out something like this happening down the line, maybe in a fourth Spidey film.

 

[Arachnerd]

And this is why I tend to be somewhat cautious. I've said this before and I don't intend to repeat myself too much, but Sony is definitely planning (or has had discussions regarding) a live-action Spider-Verse movie. If it's not SM3, that doesn't automatically mean that it won't happen sometime in the future. SM3 could very well tease it at the end, but we'll see what happens.

Trust me, I was in the Release The Snyder Cut club for years. The fact that it's actually a thing now is still astounding to me, and while I truly wish the same thing would happen here with Tom Holland, Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield starring in a Spider-Man movie together, there's still a part of me that's clinging on to the possibility of it also not happening.

It's always safe to have no expectations at all rather than have them too high. If it doesn't happen, at least you'll know you weren't getting your hopes up for nothing. On the off-chance that it does happen, it just makes the surprise and excitement all the more meaningful.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

Really thinking there's too much in this movie.

Multi-Verse Sinister Six, Doctor Strange, TWO other Spider-Men, Kraven's introduction and the resolution of the identity reveal.

This could be like SM3/TASM2 on steroids in terms of too much.

I don't think that all of this is gonna be introduced at once. We're definitely not getting Kraven imo, since it appears that Sony is saving him for his solo movie. As for the rest, we'll probably just get one storyline and the rest teased.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Agreed. Kraven isn't happening.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Its soooo happening in SM3. i don't know why everyone is suddenly being all defeatist. if they wanna do this story, they will do it. even if Toby doesn't wanna come back or they have to change his role, or work around it.

I doubt there is a scenario where they can't convince Toby to come back.

There is a reason why Jamie Foxx has confirmed himself being in it. because negotiations are done for him. and while we can say ohh he is just playing a new version... BULL POOP! who are we kidding?

Same with the fact that this is still coming out after Wandavision. its so obvious the intention is for a multiverse trilogy of sorts. and this would be the right time to do it. The MCU spider-man isn't about dramatic presentation and personal stories.

There is just so much backing this up, that i'm surprised Grace can put people into this much doubt.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

Its happening in SM3. i don't know why everyone is suddenly being all defeatist. if they wanna do this story, they will do it. even if Toby didn't come back or they change his role, or work around it.

There is a reason why Jamie Foxx has confirmed himself being in it. and while we can say ohh he is just playing a new version... BULL POOP! he is confirmed. they are already ahead here.

Same with the fact that this is still coming out after Wandavision. its so obvious the intention is for a multiverse trilogy of sorts. and this would be the right time to do it.

There is just so much backing this up, that i'm surprised Grace can put people into this much doubt.

Grace Randolph puts people in doubt because she's a twit who has a crazy, Max Dillon-level obsession with Jessica Chastain, and she really is not reliable. We shouldn't assume that we're getting Tobey and Andrew back just because some scooper is just saying "dude, trust me". I'm not saying we shouldn't speculate, but we should keep our expectations realistic. For all we know SM3 could just be a straightforward Spidey and Strange vs. Electro film with no multiverse concepts at all.

 

[Frodo]

I've been following scoopers and the developments of CBM since the mid 90s, so i've read and heard all kinds of rumors for all kinds of projects and I've seen the ups and downs.

So, I learned a long time ago not to get super emotionally invested in scoops and rumors. At the same time, I also learned not to ignore something just because it doesn't affirm what you want to hear.

When I come across these rumors and stuff, I want to know if its true, not if it says something I want to hear.

These rumors an alleged scoops have a bit more weight to me given:
* the announced castings of Foxx and Cumberbatch,
* given Wandavision and Doctor Strange 2's relation to SM3,
*given the new deal between Sony and Marvel in which Feige alluded to Spiderman crossing universes,
*given Mysterio's mention of the multiverse and Jk Simmons appearance as Jameson ,
*given that Sony allegedly wanted Garfield and Maguire to provide their voices for Into The Spiderverse film ,
*and especially given Sony's carefully worded , " It's not confirmed", statement.

Now, a team up may not happen in SM3, though given the available evidence , the idea of the multiverse not being touched on in some form is unlikely imo .

It could be that SM3 only sets the stage for a Spiderverse film down the line . Or it could be they announce the cast of SM3 and it turns out that Electro is the only villain and it won't deal with the multiverse at all. There are lots of possible outcomes.

Either way though, I have faith that Feige and co are going to give us a good Spiderman 3 , whether that's a multiverse film, or a film with a much smaller scope like the first two.

So if it happens, great. If it doesn't happen , I'll still be looking forward to what Feige has to offer.

 

[The Infernal]

At the very least I think it's safe to say we're getting some multiverse fallout from Strange's film. I don't see this being a self contained adventure with just some spider-slayers.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Its soooo happening in SM3. i don't know why everyone is suddenly being all defeatist. if they wanna do this story, they will do it. even if Toby doesn't wanna come back or they have to change his role, or work around it.

I doubt there is a scenario where they can't convince Toby to come back.

There is a reason why Jamie Foxx has confirmed himself being in it. because negotiations are done for him. and while we can say ohh he is just playing a new version... BULL POOP! who are we kidding?

Same with the fact that this is still coming out after Wandavision. its so obvious the intention is for a multiverse trilogy of sorts. and this would be the right time to do it. The MCU spider-man isn't about dramatic presentation and personal stories.

There is just so much backing this up, that i'm surprised Grace can put people into this much doubt.

Nah.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

I've been following scoopers and the developments of CBM since the mid 90s, so i've read and heard all kinds of rumors for all kinds of projects and I've seen the ups and downs.

So, I learned a long time ago not to get super emotionally invested in scoops and rumors. At the same time, I also learned not to ignore something just because it doesn't affirm what you want to hear.

When I come across these rumors and stuff, I want to know if its true, not if it says something I want to hear.

These rumors an alleged scoops have a bit more weight to me given:
* the announced castings of Foxx and Cumberbatch,
* given Wandavision and Doctor Strange 2's relation to SM3,
*given the new deal between Sony and Marvel in which Feige alluded to Spiderman crossing universes,
*given Mysterio's mention of the multiverse and Jk Simmons appearance as Jameson ,
*given that Sony allegedly wanted Garfield and Maguire to provide their voices for Into The Spiderverse film ,
*and especially given Sony's carefully worded , " It's not confirmed", statement.

Now, a team up may not happen in SM3, though given the available evidence , the idea of the multiverse not being touched on in some form is unlikely imo .

It could be that SM3 only sets the stage for a Spiderverse film down the line . Or it could be they announce the cast of SM3 and it turns out that Electro is the only villain and it won't deal with the multiverse at all. There are lots of possible outcomes.

Either way though, I have faith that Feige and co are going to give us a good Spiderman 3 , whether that's a multiverse film, or a film with a much smaller scope like the first two.

So if it happens, great. If it doesn't happen , I'll still be looking forward to what Feige has to offer.

We already have a good Spider-Man 3. It's called Spider-Man 3. I sincerely hope we get a full cast announcement, I'm tired of speculating.

 

[Green Goblin]

It's possible that Maguire and Garfield are back but it's for Doctor Strange 2?

Multi-Verse could be woven into MCU Spidey 3 as a background plot in a similar way that Endgame's aftermath worked in Far Frome Home.

A core idea in reality altering or time travel plots is that when you change something there's a ripple effect no matter how small the change is. Strange will undo Peter's identity reveal at the end of the first act which brings in Foxx's Electro. Maybe he looks different and has a different personality but still "emembers that this isn't "his earth" but will seek revenge on this world's Spider-Man even if he has never personally met him.

The events of WandaVision and the undoing of the identity reveal just make the threads between universes more entangled which concludes in the "finale" Doctor Strange 2.

It's worth noting that as far as we know, Phase 4 doesn't have an Avengers film but DS2 is the closest thing to it being a crossover event. Marvel can use Spider-Man in one more MCU film currently so they might want their money's worth and get 3 Spider-Men in one of their movies. That way they can keep the focus on Holland in the SM franchise but we can still get a Spider-Verse story as part of a larger event movie that honours Marvel past and present (if Hugh Jackman rumours are true). Plus having it in an event movie would help differentiate this from the animated movie.

 

[GuestStar2004]

It's possible that Maguire and Garfield are back but it's for Doctor Strange 2?

But if you do spiderverse then you can concentrate on spider-men. if you introduce them into Dr Stange 2 they will probably end up sharing with what could be other cross overs and fun cameos like Tom Cruise as Iron Man.

It would mean squeezing more in and getting less then you would if you just did Spiderverse separate.

Marvel can use Spider-Man in one more MCU film currently so they might want their money's worth and get 3 Spider-Men in one of their movies.

Don't Marvel get most of their Spider-man film money from merchandise. and a multiverse story would sell alot of toys. i dunno what % they would get from theatre profits, but they would earn from it either way.

 

[Frodo]

We already have a good Spider-Man 3. It's called Spider-Man 3. I sincerely hope we get a full cast announcement, I'm tired of speculating.

Okay. I'll continue to speculate, and you don't have to.

Problem solved.

 

[Arachnerd]

Speculating is all we can do until December at the very least, so there's not really much else we can do.

 

[Nardz937]

Potential 'SPIDER-MAN 3' Audition Video Description Revealed - Murphy's Multiverse -

Spoiler

The Miles rumors may be getting some legitimacy. Initiate the fear they're going to kill Tobey's Spidey

 

[Toomes' Phone]

Speculating is all we can do until December at the very least, so there's not really much else we can do.

I should reword what I said. I hope we get a full cast announcement in December. Speculating is fine before then is fine, all we've been doing, myself include, is speculating haha.

 

[Toomes' Phone]

Potential 'SPIDER-MAN 3' Audition Video Description Revealed - Murphy's Multiverse -

Spoiler

The Miles rumors may be getting some legitimacy. Initiate the fear they're going to kill Tobey's Spidey

Is this source reliable?

 

[GuestStar2004]

Potential 'SPIDER-MAN 3' Audition Video Description Revealed - Murphy's Multiverse -

Spoiler

The Miles rumors may be getting some legitimacy. Initiate the fear they're going to kill Tobey's Spidey

Never heard of that site before.

Spoiler

Also Miles would probably be from a different universe and already spider-man so i don't see this being connected to Toby

After all if you do Spiderverse... why would you only visit 2 other universes?

 

[Arachnerd]

Ain't pressing that spoiler button just in case.

But needless to say, probably take it with a grain of salt whatever it is.

 

[Nardz937]

Never heard of that side before.

Spoiler

Also Miles would probably be from a different universe and already spider-man so i don't see this being connected to Toby

After all if you do Spiderverse... why would you only visit 2 other universes?

Spoiler

The speculation could be Miles is from Tobey's universe because he's the oldest Peter (unless they want to add Nicholas Hammond, which would be fun). But then again Miles was referenced by Aaron Davis in HC.

 

[Venom 1988]

Is this source reliable?

Murphy is so so but even he is saying in the article that he's simply reporting on it, rather than claiming its legit.

I don't think its real though. Remember the Gwen Stacy audition tape that that popped up prior to Far From Home? Also audition sides usually are written for the audition process and are not reflective of the actual script. They also wouldn't have spoilers in it either.

 

[kguillou]

I’ve been seeing so much SM3 fanart on social media with Tobey and Andrew that it feels like everyone online is expecting these guys to be in the film. It almost feels like Sony/Marvel HAS to have them in it now since the internet is basically willing this into existence haha