stupid guitar!! (help)

[uchiha_itachi]

alright so today i decided to get my new guitar and amp. amp is great btw.

i wanted to put a thicker gauge string set on my new guitar, which is a jackson dinky DXMG. and thats where im having the problem how the hell do you change them?!?! i managed to get the string off but putting the the new set back in is killing me, ive been trying for like an hour ( or it feels like tht)

so can some1 help me out? or even point in the direction of a site, tht has a guide? google is not helping me with this at all.

ill post pics if needed


thnkx

 

[SpideyLad]

Can you post a picture of the guitar? I might be able to help then.

 

[uchiha_itachi]

alright gimme a couple mins

 

[uchiha_itachi]

i couldnt take a good picture, but i found this on google of it.

 

[SpideyLad]

Hmm....And what part of re-stringing it are you finding hard?

 

[guitarsingerguy]

That's what you get for buying something with a Floyd Rose on it.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

There are so many explanations of how to change strings, and how to do it correctly so that they stay in tune better despite wild bending, etc. online that I am confounded by this thread.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

There are so many explanations of how to change strings, and how to do it correctly so that they stay in tune better despite wild bending, etc. online that I am confounded by this thread.

I'm sure he's referring to the fact that he bought a guitar with a free floating trem and that they're the biggest pains in the ass on the face of the planet to try and do anything with. Seriously, when people come into my store with a Floyd and want their strings changed, I start to laugh furiously in their face. They're the most horribly designed tremolos out there. Leave it to them to find a way to make changing your strings almost ****ing impossible. Give me a Bigsby any day.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

This is also a problem you're going to have every single time you try and change string gauges on this guitar. It will be easier to take it to a trained professional and let them calibrate it.....unless you wanna eat the smoking end of a shotgun by the end of the day.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Tremolo Bars are so 80's.

 

[uchiha_itachi]

its alright ive figured it out, if you use the whammy bar to lift the trem up it makes putting the strings in alot easier. and its not that hard really. i was just like woah wtf is going on at first. not to bad now though

thanks for the answers though

 

[guitarsingerguy]

its alright ive figured it out, if you use the whammy bar to lift the trem up it makes putting the strings in alot easier. and its not that hard really. i was just like woah wtf is going on at first. not to bad now though

thanks for the answers though

You shouldn't have had to lift up on anything. You remove the ball end from the string and unscrew the allen screw at the bottom of the bridge. You then place the end of the string into the slot and tighten the allen screw back up. The calibration is still going to be ****ed because you put a larger gauge on it. Your intonation, radius, and string height are probably going to be shot to **** now. Then again, what the **** do I know?

 

[uchiha_itachi]

what do u mean by the calibration?

 

[jaguarr]

Floyd Rose...

jag

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Whoa, a Spoonerism would be 'Roid Flows.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

what do u mean by the calibration?

When you move up in string gauge you're changing the mathematical equation that tuning a guitar is based on because of the increase in tension on the guitar itself. On average, moving up a single mm set (for instance moving from .009s to .010s) adds about 30 pounds of pressure. You have to compensate for this added string tension by adjusting your bridge's radius, resetting your intonation by moving the saddles up and down (meaning that an open string and its 12th fret octave are the same pitch), adjusting your truss rod, and setting the pull on the tremolo springs.

 

[Ice-man]

i couldnt take a good picture, but i found this on google of it.

i have a similar bar set up on my guitar, you see those alen key pegs under the black bar with the tuning pegs, unscrew them and put the new strings in and tighten it.

if you have alen key screws up on the neck unscrew them too, you'll be fine, but after you tune it wiggle each string for a few minuets just to work them in and re tune.

 

[The Dark Guybrush]

lol @ floyd rose tremolo!!
pain in the neck, they are.

 

[Jerry!]

When you move up in string gauge you're changing the mathematical equation that tuning a guitar is based on because of the increase in tension on the guitar itself. On average, moving up a single mm set (for instance moving from .009s to .010s) adds about 30 pounds of pressure. You have to compensate for this added string tension by adjusting your bridge's radius, resetting your intonation by moving the saddles up and down (meaning that an open string and its 12th fret octave are the same pitch), adjusting your truss rod, and setting the pull on the tremolo springs.

 

[The Dark Guybrush]

^ lol...
it's best to take it in and let a professional set it up for you, at least the first time.
make sure you know the exact kind of strings you have put on it..
and when it's time to restring, just buy a new set of the same kind and PRESTO.

 

[uchiha_itachi]

When you move up in string gauge you're changing the mathematical equation that tuning a guitar is based on because of the increase in tension on the guitar itself. On average, moving up a single mm set (for instance moving from .009s to .010s) adds about 30 pounds of pressure. You have to compensate for this added string tension by adjusting your bridge's radius, resetting your intonation by moving the saddles up and down (meaning that an open string and its 12th fret octave are the same pitch), adjusting your truss rod, and setting the pull on the tremolo springs.

hmmm, alright. i might have to get a pro to show me how to do that so i dont have to keep bringing it to a shop when i change gauge. or if i happen to find a guide somewere i might try tht.

im gona look into learning bout that today. i have noticed the trem is slightly more raised than it was, and the strings seem a lil further away from the fret board than they are on my other guitar. but i would rather learn how to do the callabrating myself, cos it would just get annoying if i had to keep taking it to a repair shop when i change gauges.

 

[uchiha_itachi]

i have a similar bar set up on my guitar, you see those alen key pegs under the black bar with the tuning pegs, unscrew them and put the new strings in and tighten it.

if you have alen key screws up on the neck unscrew them too, you'll be fine, but after you tune it wiggle each string for a few minuets just to work them in and re tune.

yeh i got changing the strings down, really wasn't as hard as i thought at first. just gotta get it callbrated.

thanks tho

 

[uchiha_itachi]

^ lol...
it's best to take it in and let a professional set it up for you, at least the first time.
make sure you know the exact kind of strings you have put on it..
and when it's time to restring, just buy a new set of the same kind and PRESTO.

i think thats what im gonna do. hopefully he could show me how to do it, just incase i do change gauge again. i would much rather know the ins and out of my guitar rather than leaving it to some1 else all the time anyway.

 

[The Dark Guybrush]

i think thats what im gonna do. hopefully he could show me how to do it, just incase i do change gauge again. i would much rather know the ins and out of my guitar rather than leaving it to some1 else all the time anyway.

good call. it's good to know how to set up your own instrument.

 

[uchiha_itachi]

good call. it's good to know how to set up your own instrument.

exactly. i know the basics of it, just gotta learn the more advanced stuff.