The Avengers: Bridging The Gap Between TWS and AOU (Spoilers)

[drod1985]

So, it's obvious that The Avengers regrouped and have been taking down Hydra bases and facing new threats since the downfall of SHIELD in TWS. It's also heavily implied that Wanda and Pietro are not the only enhanced people they've come across. Is there any material currently published or forthcoming that chronicles those missions and adventures? There should be!

I read the AOU prelude comic "The Scepter'd Isle" - it was basically just a comic form of TWS' mid-credits sting. I want to see some extra material of the band getting back together, taking down Hydra bases, and dealing with the "new players" Cap alluded to in AOU.

 

[AgentGojiraRgr]

They should do a comic book or direct to Blu-Ray animated movie set during that time

 

[Lord]

Apparently this was the first time they have assembled since the first film. Though now would truly be the time for Marvel to release more MCU comics explaining stuff, i mean, Iron Man 3 seemed to alude toward Tony not making suits anymore, what changed? And he has been developing Ultron with Banner for some time now, isn't that true?

I liked how they used those comics previously to tie all the loose threads from Phase I, but i feel like Phase II is in need of the same treatment.

 

[seahammer]

Apparently this was the first time they have assembled since the first film.

No it wasn't. I got the impression they had been working together for a bit trying to recover the scepter so Thor could take it back to Asgard.

 

[Lord]

No it wasn't. I got the impression they had been working together for a bit trying to recover the scepter so Thor could take it back to Asgard.

I had that impression too, but wasn't there an interview where they mentioned this being their first mission since the first film?

 

[seahammer]

I had that impression too, but wasn't there an interview where they mentioned this being their first mission since the first film?

Oh really? I don't know. Maybe, in general terms, the "retrieve the scepter mission" is their first mission, but the scene that starts the film isn't the first attempt at completing that mission? I've only seen it once so far, but I'll probably go again tomorrow, so I'll try to confirm.

IMO the in-movie explanation takes precedence over the interview explanation, so if there is a discrepancy I'll side with what's in the movie.

 

[First Avenger]

The mission we saw at the beginning of AoU was the last of a series in trying to retrieve the scepter. Thor saying 'finally' during the battle,the discussion on the Quinjet showed that.

 

[seahammer]

^That's what I thought. Thanks.

 

[First Avenger]

Yeah I needed a second viewing to be sure xD.

 

[Decepticonus]

Apparently this was the first time they have assembled since the first film. Though now would truly be the time for Marvel to release more MCU comics explaining stuff, i mean, Iron Man 3 seemed to alude toward Tony not making suits anymore, what changed? And he has been developing Ultron with Banner for some time now, isn't that true?

I liked how they used those comics previously to tie all the loose threads from Phase I, but i feel like Phase II is in need of the same treatment.

Hence, why that ending was stupid because we knew he'd show up later as Iron Man.

 

[Lord]

Hence, why that ending was stupid because we knew he'd show up later as Iron Man.

That was the ending for the Iron Man movies, why should they limit themselves due to another franchise?

 

[PunyGod]

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[Lord]

Because its not another franchise?

Marvel Cinematic Universe is touted as a single interconnected franchise.


They cant have it both ways and now tell us that the solo films are somehow separate.

Then Avengers 2 is the one that has to explain what happened, Iron Man 3 was supposed to bring that character full circle, if a following film wants to bring him out of retirement, then they need to give a better reason to do so.

 

[OcStat]

Iron Man never quit in 3. He destroyed his suits to show his dedication to Pepper, he was hiding himself away in his lab and blowing them all up was basically saying, "I'm going to make more time for us".

I mean, the movie closes on "I am Iron Man". Not, " Well Iron Man was fun, now I'm back to Tony Stark!"

 

[PunyGod]

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[PunyGod]

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[OcStat]

Granted, none of this is explicitly stated, but personally, Ive kind of pieced it together as follows:

He is not actively wearing the armor, but he is still at work. The original Ultron program, Veronica, his Iron Legion, things that don't need him to suit up. On top of that, developing Avengers Tower, and designing the teams hardware. Operating on a more "administrative" role with the Avengers. We can't say for sure, but I'd imagine he wanted in on the "final" mission, getting the scepter back. Finishing what they started. If the team needs him, he's there.

So you're correct in that he would still work without being Iron Man. But why would he not be Iron Man when he needs to? I mean, do you think he would develop "Veronica" with the intention of not being the pilot if the need to use it ever came up? He talks a lot about the endgame in the film, being able to go home. He's trying to get to that point. He wasn't there at the end of Iron Man 3. He's closer to that goal here at the end of AoU, but he's still not retired.

 

[PunyGod]

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[MbJ]

I don't think what they were doing before the opening of the movie was relevant. The point was to show us that they've been working together for a while so the story could hit the ground running.

They didn't want a repeat of the first movie where it takes an hour to get the team assembled.

 

[drod1985]

Well, Tony never retired in IM3. He simply gained confidence and started with a clean slate on the suits.

I'm interested in the team's reaction to SHIELD falling and the Hydra reveal. I'm sure they reassemble shortly after TWS to begin tracking down the scepter and take down Hydra bases. Von Strucker says in TWS that they'll feed Hydra facilities to "Captain America and his colorful friends," and both Cap and Thor allude to prior missions and new foes in the first scenes of AOU. So just from what we've seen on screen we can gather that they've been working together for a while.

 

[wampa1]

AoU was totally consistent with Iron Man 3. He goes away with the intention of not suiting up anymore and that theme continues in AoU.

 

[MbJ]

AoU was totally consistent with Iron Man 3. He goes away with the intention of not suiting up anymore and that theme continues in AoU.

And his entire defense during the wood cutting scene is that his end goal is to create a world where he and the other Avengers can go home and leave the fighting to someone else.

 

[StanLee72]

that ending of Iron Man 3 where Tony blows up all his armors...is more like that bonus scene in The Incredible Hulk involving RDJ and William Hurt, where it turns out to be a mistake which feige & co. would later try to create new stuff to explain. with that, at least they tried with the short The Consultant, with Coulson conversing with the future traitor, Agent Sitwell, about using Tony Stark to "trick" Gen. Ross into NOT letting Abomination joining the Avengers team...further explanation can be seen in related comic books.
as for Iron Man 3's ending..maybe in the near future, after hearing/reading all the complaints about it, Feige would talk to Joe Q to make another movie tie-in comic book that bridges the gap between IM 3 and AoU...and there's always the shorts to fill in the blanks. just relax, people...