BvS The better Superman/Batman first meeting; DCAU vs DCEU.

[Tacit Ronin]

Which did you prefer?

Here's the animated one if you need a refresher.

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[Mr. Wayne]

DCAU and it's not close. That movie is a masterpiece as is JL and JLU. It has the best Batman, Superman, Joker and Lex that have ever existed IMO. Honestly they literally could have made that movie in live action and printed money but someone has a Frank Miller fetish.

 

[The Joker]

DCAU by a country mile. I must rewatch that movie again. It's been ages since I have.

 

[Boom]

The animated film.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

DCAU and its not even a competition honestly

 

[batman44]

Dcau

 

[Decepticonus]

Just watched it the other day, lots of fun and love that introduction. The look on Supes' face as he is thrown is wonderful. But I'm going to vote BvS just to spite everyone and their need of nostalgia and old values.

 

[Marvel Knight]

DCAU.

"World's Finest" was a better, more loving approach to the source material than Batman Vs Superman.

I miss DC animation. Their current New 52 inspired animation projects are terrible.

 

[Mr. Wayne]

It's baffling and frustrating to me that they don't use the DCAU as the basis for their shared universe. The generation of kids who grew up loving it is pretty much the demographic who is buying most of your tickets. Like it's literally so simple and yet they can't get it right. Affleck is perfect to play Conroy's Batman. Cavill is perfect to play Daly's Superman. Dini and Timm did all the legwork between 1997 and 2006 basically but instead of taking what they already own and already know works these clowns are counting on Snyder and Johns. I don't get it.

 

[Smilodon]

In preparation for BvS I've been recommending the DCAU to a friend who isn't a big comic reader and is only familiar with DC through the various films and or CW series (but really only then it's the Flash). Superman TAS, Batman TAS, JL, JLU, Batman Beyond etc. I've also been rewatching eps in order to get myself pumped.

Needless to say after all this I may have gotten his expectations up a bit too high with the DCAU, but at least we still have this after BvS. Oh, and Batman: The Brave and the Bold. This film has made me want to see Batman fight Santa or something.

 

[Decepticonus]

It's baffling and frustrating to me that they don't use the DCAU as the basis for their shared universe. The generation of kids who grew up loving it is pretty much the demographic who is buying most of your tickets. Like it's literally so simple and yet they can't get it right. Affleck is perfect to play Conroy's Batman. Cavill is perfect to play Daly's Superman. Dini and Timm did all the legwork between 1997 and 2006 basically but instead of taking what they already own and already know works these clowns are counting on Snyder and Johns. I don't get it.

Just like it's bafflinf '89 Batman wasn't campy, since the kids from '66 were old enough to buy tickets. This is by far the dumbest train of thought ever. We get it - nostalgia, nostalgia, nostalgia. Your days and values were just so much better. The DCAU is a completely different beast altogether. I loved it, but I don't want to see it all over again. Well I can and I do, I put in the old DVD's and sit back and enjoy. Instead, I new approaches, new stories, new universes.

 

[Marvel Knight]

It's baffling and frustrating to me that they don't use the DCAU as the basis for their shared universe. The generation of kids who grew up loving it is pretty much the demographic who is buying most of your tickets. Like it's literally so simple and yet they can't get it right. Affleck is perfect to play Conroy's Batman. Cavill is perfect to play Daly's Superman. Dini and Timm did all the legwork between 1997 and 2006 basically but instead of taking what they already own and already know works these clowns are counting on Snyder and Johns. I don't get it.

I always thought Brandon Routh would have done a good job with that version of Superman. He has that wholesome, mid-western farmboy quality to him that I liked about the animated Superman.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Cavil has those qualities too. Look at his interviews. He is just directed to be an edgy and depressed.

 

[Mr. Wayne]

Just like it's bafflinf '89 Batman wasn't campy, since the kids from '66 were old enough to buy tickets. This is by far the dumbest train of thought ever. We get it - nostalgia, nostalgia, nostalgia. Your days and values were just so much better. The DCAU is a completely different beast altogether. I loved it, but I don't want to see it all over again. Well I can and I do, I put in the old DVD's and sit back and enjoy. Instead, I new approaches, new stories, new universes.

First of all you're a bit rude which I suppose is your right but it's unnecessary. I didn't say remake it shot for shot or that my day was better or any of that nonsense. That it took place when I was kid does give me a bias towards it for sure but it's also probably the most universally acclaimed continuity of the characters so there's that. I also still liked MOS and BVS and have no problem with different interpretations of things. I love DKR for instance. However it's a little silly when you have a basically universally acclaimed blueprint for how these characters can share a universe that you know works and instead make decisions that indicate that you don't give a damn about them at all. I've got no problem whatsoever with new approaches. I have a problem with new approaches that pee all over characterization and aren't cohesive when a proven way is staring you in the face.

 

[Mr. Wayne]

I find it really hard to judge Routh at all since he was basically picked because of his resemblance to Reeve and instructed to mimic him. I have no clue what he could have brought to the role given the chance to make it his own which is kind of sad but I could see some of those qualities for sure.

 

[Decepticonus]

First of all you're a bit rude which I suppose is your right but it's unnecessary. I didn't say remake it shot for shot or that my day was better or any of that nonsense. That it took place when I was kid does give me a bias towards it for sure but it's also probably the most universally acclaimed continuity of the characters so there's that. I also still liked MOS and BVS and have no problem with different interpretations of things. I love DKR for instance. However it's a little silly when you have a basically universally acclaimed blueprint for how these characters can share a universe that you know works and instead make decisions that indicate that you don't give a damn about them at all. I've got no problem whatsoever with new approaches. I have a problem with new approaches that pee all over characterization and aren't cohesive when a proven way is staring you in the face.

Fine, but I think if anything you'd hate it more. They take something you love and shake it up or **** all over it (according to some.) Plus, Snyder is an artist, say what you will people, he is and wants to do his own thing. I'm sorry again, I love the DCAU it informs me on alot of my own stuff BUT it is not the bible of DC. Off to worship Satan now, mwahahahaha.

 

[Marvel Knight]

I find it really hard to judge Routh at all since he was basically picked because of his resemblance to Reeve and instructed to mimic him. I have no clue what he could have brought to the role given the chance to make it his own which is kind of sad but I could see some of those qualities for sure.

Maybe its because he's from Iowa, lol.

Cavil has those qualities too. Look at his interviews. He is just directed to be an edgy and depressed.

The amusing irony is people said Brandon didn't have enough lines in SR. And now he plays a character that can't stop talking;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aGucV_QaOg

 

[4thWallBreaker]

DCAU. Much more enthralling.

 

[Mr. Wayne]

Fine, but I think if anything you'd hate it more. They take something you love and shake it up or **** all over it (according to some.) Plus, Snyder is an artist, say what you will people, he is and wants to do his own thing. I'm sorry again, I love the DCAU it informs me on alot of my own stuff BUT it is not the bible of DC. Off to worship Satan now, mwahahahaha.

Lol we know better now don't we? Devils don't come from Hell beneath us, no they post on the Hype. In all seriousness though I get where you're coming from. I wouldn't be saying this if I wasn't a bit disappointed in some of the decisions made. I think I have a bit of guilt as well because I loved Batfleck but I feel bad about Supes and people who love him most and are unhappy.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I will take BVS over a story where Superman is humiliated and pseudo cuckolded by Batman, thanks. As with so much of DC in general these last thirty plus years, the DCAU was all Batman all the time. Until JLU (perhaps a bit earlier with Twilight, Starcrossed and Wild Cards) the DCAU sacrificed a lot of character's inherent dignity to prop up the already popular Batman, rather than build up the other characters. I can deal with a Batman that uses planning to BARELY hold on long enough to almost defeat Superman, to a version where he can somehow Judo toss a guy whose reaction time is enough to allow him to fly at super sonic speeds and whose body can generate enough force to shatter steel. No, sorry, there is no hip tossing that man. That is bovine excrement. Superman wasn't anything to write home about even in his own series. There are a handful of really well done and memorable SUPERMAN TAS episodes but it's few and far between. As always, the DCAU is a bust for me until JLU comes along, and everyone gets their due, Superman is treated at least as an equal to Batman and the writers remember that the purpose of such endeavors is to make the other characters look cool, not simply further burnish the "coolness" of a character already widely popular.

 

[OutOfBoose]

BVS EASILY. DCAU, while sweet and light-hearted (very good for kids), has very little substance and drama.

 

[jmc]

It's not even worth voting for.

 

[Wise]

DCAU by far.

Mainly because Bruce Timm understands and nails the characters. His Lex Luthor and Joker are definitive.

 

[Wise]

Man Netflix or Amazon need to bring back Batman the Animated Series and Justice League Unlimited.

I'd kill for more episodes of JLU.

 

[Wise]

Call me when the DCEU achieves something this as epic and awesome as this small moment.

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