The Earthquake Thread

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By Heather Whipps
Special to LiveScience
posted: 18 April 2006
12:00 am ET



"Certain places: Seattle, Vancouver, and New Madrid [Missouri] to name a few, are places that have the potential (albeit low probability) of a high-consequence event."
— Andy Thompson, Senior Risk Consultant with the engineering firm Arup


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A century ago today, residents of San Francisco were roused from their sleep by a disturbing natural alarm clock.

A powerful earthquake, measuring 7.8 on the Richter scale, shook the city for an entire minute in the early morning of April 18, 1906. The violent jolt touched off fires and reduced many of its neighborhoods to flattened, smoking rubble in just a few hours.

The scale of devastation in San Francisco was due partly to a lack of earthquake building knowledge at the time—a discipline that has since developed largely because of that event, scientists say.

"In 1906 there was no seismic building code, no clear understanding of plate tectonics or where the major faults were located," explained Jack Moehle, director of the Pacific Earthquake Engineering Research Center at the University of California Berkeley.




Looking at what remained of the cityscape in San Francisco, as well as observing what other earthquakes knocked down in the following years, allowed California's structural engineers to build upon their knowledge. "The shortcomings have been gradually worked out, to the point where today we have a fairly good understanding of seismic design requirements," Moehle said.

The same can't be said of other earthquake-prone regions across the county, including several big cities whose residents might not even realize they're at risk.

Fire, smoke and mirrors

The 1906 quake would become one of the most damaging in California's history, according to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS).

An estimated 3,000 people died in the disaster and it cost at least $524 million in property damage. City officials in the greater San Francisco area are commemorating the somber anniversary with exhibits and memorial dedications.

Meanwhile, earthquake experts are planning for what could happen when (not if) a quake of similar proportions tests the country again.

West Coast cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles should come through with better results, engineers say, even though it took several decades for the lessons learned in 1906 to be put into effect.

The first step toward enlightenment was admitting the truth.

"For a long time, the 1906 earthquake was referred to as the ‘Great Fire' because officials didn't want to give the impression that San Francisco was dangerous," said Andy Thompson, Senior Risk Consultant with the engineering firm Arup. "As a result, building codes until the 1960s protected mainly against fire."

The watershed moment came in 1971, when a magnitude 6.7 quake shook the city of San Fernando, California. That earthquake proved enormously costly, leading builders to search for methods that would limit financial loss to their structures in the future.

Thompson calls this "performance-based" design, and it happens to complement the kind of designs that aim to keep the people inside buildings safe.

"The key is to put the damage in places that do not compromise the vertical-support system for the structure. This way the structure can absorb energy without falling down," he said. "This is similar to the crumple-zone at the front of cars. You want the car to absorb energy, but leave the passenger compartment undamaged."

How do you stand?

Employing this kind of technology in all of its new structures today, California now leads the way in earthquake building codes. Engineers believe that the rest of the country is still at risk for structural devastation, however.

Codes in some regions just don't match up with the danger of an earthquake happening there, Thompson explained.

"Certain places: Seattle, Vancouver, and New Madrid [Missouri] to name a few, are places that have the potential (albeit low probability) of a high-consequence event," he said. "A low probability will reduce risk and will reduce force requirements in the code. But this does not reduce the consequence of the event. The upshot is that some of these areas are simply not designed for the levels of earthquakes to which they could be exposed."


Moehle agreed with Thompson's assessment. "Much of the Midwest is filled with older un-reinforced masonry construction, which poses the greatest risk," he said.

Several other geologists have warned of the risk near a stretch of land between southeastern Missouri and Memphis, Tennessee called the New Madrid Seismic Zone. The region was rocked by three great earthquakes—all near or over magnitude 8—in the early 1800s.

It's not just the relatively sparse population of the Midwest that's in danger either, say scientists. Few residents of the densely populated Northeast corridor realize that they too live in an earthquake zone, though one much less active than what's found on the West Coast. With historical records going back only a few hundred years in this region, the faults there are largely unstudied and it isn't known when the last "big one" hit. It is possible that even smaller faults could wreak serious havoc on a large, unprepared city in the Northeast.

Watch out, New York

How would New York fare in a serious earthquake?

"Potentially very, very badly," said Susan Hough, a seismologist with the USGS in Pasadena. "Without question, I would rather be in San Francisco during a [magnitude] 7.8 earthquake than in New York City during a [magnitude] 6.8—and the latter is entirely possible."

And it isn't the hundred-story skyscrapers that people need to worry about, Hough told LiveScience.

"The very tall buildings in New York City should be okay: they are anchored in bedrock and designed with enough wind resistance that they are generally strong enough for earthquakes as well," she said. "It's all of the smaller masonry buildings that are scary to think about. And the infrastructure could be a total shambles: they have roads and bridges that are threatening to collapse under their own weight."

Shifting focus back to the Pacific coast, Hough also worries that residents of Oregon and Washington haven't kept up with their neighbors to the south, with potentially disastrous consequences.

"Their Big One will be closer to [magnitude] 9 than [magnitude] 8, and preparedness efforts have lagged far behind those here in California," Hough said. "They will also be facing an enormous tsunami when the Big One hits—and we've all seen what that can entail."
 
But how could one really ever be "prepared" for natural catastrophies? The only real prevention, is to not live in that geographical area...
 
Nature will ALWAYS have the advantage. Hell, they've been predicting that the supervolcano underneath Yellowstone will eventually blow and when it does, it will take 1/2 the country with it. No way to prepare for that but make sure you're at peace with your maker.

jag
 
consider how they failed to help New Orleans I can't say I'm surprised
 
Yeah there is no real way to prepre for 9 earthquake. These are things with unimaginable destructive power that no building is built to withstand.

I've heard of the Yellowstone volcano jag. If that things goes we are done. But it is expected to go sometime in the next 200,000 years. So it isn't a very narrow timeframe.
 
Morg said:
consider how they failed to help New Orleans I can't say I'm surprised

Yes they failed the evactuation and cleanup but there is no way they could have prevented the destruction from that massive hurricane. They could have prevented human loss which is much more important and the plan in that regard was a failure but destuction wise it was inevitable. In retrospect it probably wasn't a bright idea to build a city lower than sea level with a massive river nearby as well.
 
D.Rex said:
I've heard of the Yellowstone volcano jag. If that things goes we are done. But it is expected to go sometime in the next 200,000 years. So it isn't a very narrow timeframe.

As long as we keep throwing virgins to it twice a year, we'll continue to be safe. The scary part is that we're rapidly running out of virgins. :o

jag
 
D.Rex said:
Yeah there is no real way to prepre for 9 earthquake. These are things with unimaginable destructive power that no building is built to withstand.

I've heard of the Yellowstone volcano jag. If that things goes we are done. But it is expected to go sometime in the next 200,000 years. So it isn't a very narrow timeframe.


pshh, of course th eyellowstone volcano can be prevented. we go right to its core and dig a trench out too see having all the molten lava and pressyre go out there. you have'nt wtached enough fanrasy movie about natural disasters.:o
 
Honey Vibe said:
But how could one really ever be "prepared" for natural catastrophies? The only real prevention, is to not live in that geographical area...


THE BEST WAY TO BE PREPARED FOR AN EARTHQUAKE, IS TO HOP AROUND ON A POGO STICK, EVERYWHERE YOU GO. :up:
 
good plan...until the earth opens up and swallows you and your stick :(
 
Lurk said:
good plan...until the earth opens up and swallows you and your stick :(


I NEVER SAID IT WAS A FOOL-PROOF PLAN. :O :(
 
The only way to 'prepare' for an earth quake is to be in a helocopter when it hits. Beyond that, it's a crap shoot.
 
lazur said:
The only way to 'prepare' for an earth quake is to be in a helocopter when it hits. Beyond that, it's a crap shoot.

Even that's not fool proof, should the quake release underground gasses that could rise up into the air and choke the air intake on the chopper, sending you plummeting to a whirly death. :)

jag
 
jaguarr said:
Even that's not fool proof, should the quake release underground gasses that could rise up into the air and choke the air intake on the chopper, sending you plummeting to a whirly death. :)

jag

Well then, I'll just head to the nearest space station and admire the view from orbit!
 
lazur said:
Well then, I'll just head to the nearest space station and admire the view from orbit!

Unless the quake is so great that a large chunk of the Earth breaks free from the rest of the planet and is sent whirling into space by the momentum of the Earth's rotation...right...at...your...space station! :eek:

jag
 
I live in Memphis. Every year, there's always someone saying "this is the year for the big one".

Read up about "The New Madrid Seismic Zone"
 
jaguarr said:
As long as we keep throwing virgins to it twice a year, we'll continue to be safe. The scary part is that we're rapidly running out of virgins. :o

jag
I hope my birth date doesn't get called :eek:
 
Are we prepared for anything anymore or are we suppose to live in fear everyday until doomsday?
 
Honey Vibe said:
I hope my birth date doesn't get called :eek:

You'll just have to wait for the lottery to find out, then.

jag
 
I have heard of the theory that if a Earthquake hit the western or eastern sides of the United States there would be catastrophic damage.If they are not going to take this possible threat seriously,then let it happen to them.They need a wake up call.
 
Earthquake in NY? Didn't the moleman try that already?
 
Addendum said:
I live in Memphis. Every year, there's always someone saying "this is the year for the big one".

Read up about "The New Madrid Seismic Zone"
Did that years ago. Ten to fifteen years ago we had a lot of earthquake preparedness training here in Kentucky. I was part of several county and state wide disaster drills. It showed many flaws in the system back then...and many have been worked on over the years.

When the New Madrid fault shifted in the early 1800's....there were reports of the Mississippi river flowing backwards and large forested areas knocked over. If it happens today....many major metropolitan areas will be devastaded.
 
C. Lee said:
Did that years ago. Ten to fifteen years ago we had a lot of earthquake preparedness training here in Kentucky. I was part of several county and state wide disaster drills. It showed many flaws in the system back then...and many have been worked on over the years.

When the New Madrid fault shifted in the early 1800's....there were reports of the Mississippi river flowing backwards and large forested areas knocked over. If it happens today....many major metropolitan areas will be devastaded.

I remember a book written about if a 9.5 would hit the midwest, can't recall the auther name but it was pretty well written
 
And the Weather Channel has a series "It Could Happen Tomorrow". One episode was about Memphis getting hit by an intra-plate earthquake.

In the episode, which aired on March 6, they looked at what would happen if a 7.4 earthquake happened at the southern end of the New Madrid fault, which is about 40 miles north of Memphis. It would only take 18 seconds for it to hit downtown Memphis.

The show predicted fires breaking out after the quake, and damage and casualties in St. Louis and Chicago.

One of the researchers they interviewed said it would be "like looking at Katrina three, four times in a row," and another said "the losses would really be in the hundreds of billions of dollars."

Oh yeah. Keep in mind that 40% of the natural gas that the New England region receives comes through Memphis.

New Madrid Fault Line w/ maps of quake activity
 
Equint77 said:
Earthquake in NY? Didn't the moleman try that already?
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Yeah we stopped that.
 

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