"The End of The Batman" Episode pics

It was passable. After remembering that this wasn't to be a two-parter, I could see the ending coming, especially with Joker's reactions to Wrath throughout the episode (as befitting of the character as they were). I get how Batman deduced Wrath's identity, but the return was too contrived. The Robin/Scorn dialogue was annoying;probably the thing I liked least about the whole ep.

Hope the Hawkman offering goes over better.
 
I do agree with November Rain a bit that Batman's martial arts prowess is relied upon far too often and about 80% of the time is how he undoes his foils, even after he figures out a given mystery. The comics have sometimes had this problem, too. With this the back of my mind, I watched "The End of the Batman".

According to a CBR interview, this episode was supposed to take place after the Hawkman episode and before the 2-part JL-teamed finale. In a way it feels like an episode that could have made a good season finale, or even series finale (as this is Season 5, and WB rarely goes beyond 5 seasons with a show regardless of ratings). Instead, though, the tone of the episode was kept too light and the writers in a way played things TOO safe. The concept of Batman facing someone who is literally his polar opposite in motivation should be a horrorifying thing. Instead, Wrath & Scorn were almost essentially "rogues of the week". Thankfully, with the endless generic team-up episodes lowering the bar for this season compared to the 4th, it still comes off as one of this season's better efforts.

In the comics, Wrath was a one-shot villain, showing up for the first & last time in BATMAN SPECIAL #1, circa 1984. While he dies in the story, it seems that Grant Morrison based his Prometheus villain during his JLA on him. Wrath had no real name and naturally, waged a caped crusade against law and order when his criminal parents were killed by a young cop while trying to duck out on rent (the cop mistook them for burglars, and they were, just not at that moment), and the cop who shot then turned out to be Jim Gordon, now the Commish. He learns Batman's identity and attacks his family, hospitalizing Alfred and taking Leslie Thompkins hostage. He later falls off a roof and dies.

This episode is a heavilly watered down version of that story, and Wrath doesn't quite work with that watering. The episode also adds a partner, Scorn, to occupy Robin. Neither he or Robin contribute a lot to the story besides wisecracks, and both could have easily been written out. In this episode, Batman & Robin first encounter the Undynamic Duo when they are chasing Penguin, allowing the foul to escape. The pair show themselves fully trying to help the Joker steal from a new lottery escapade, a favor the Barefoot Prince of Crime hardly appreciates. Wrath & Scorn seem to believe that criminals are simply trying to make a living and "it is hard enough without having to deal with The Batman". It is an interesting motivation; unfortunately, aside for Penguin and to to some extent Killer Croc, the rogues Wrath & Scorn unite are mostly insane (Joker, Ventriloquist & Scarface). Perhaps instead of Joker, who along with Penguin shows up FAR too often, perhaps Catwoman and Gearhead, two criminals who aren't insane, could have been used. Heck, Catwoman's been vacant all season. Maybe even Ragdoll.

The biggest "watering" is that Wrath & Scorn's parents are still alive, just in prison. I suppose that is enough of a motive but it takes some of the tragedy away from Wrath. I suspect that could have been BS & P at work, which is mind boggling. All the 8-13 year old kids watching at home are supposed to be aware that Batman's parents were murdered when he was a kid by a mugger. This is the iconic origin of Batman and was heavilly alluded to over the first 2 seasons. If they can accept the fact that a hero has murdered parents without melting into protoplasm, why not Wrath? Why not even TRY to imply it? That was the biggest problem I had with this episode. It had potential, and let it go by playing too safely. It isn't the only episode to do this, but it still was frustrating.

Wrath & Scorn are given real names, Will & Andrew Mallory, and they are fellas that apparently Bruce & Dick go rock-climbing with, and other assorted activities. Naturally, by introducing them this way, the audience obviously knows who they are, especially as they have the same voice. Granted, this isn't the only episode to do that, either in Batman animation or in superhero cartoons as a whole. I found it silly as a child and I still find it silly. Yes, kids aren't nearly as dumb as many adults think, and the odd thing is once people reach adulthood it is like they forget what childhood was like, hence all the BS & P coddling. Andy & Dick naturally are rivals who talk trash with each other. Using that grappling hook thing to help lead to Wrath & Batman discovering each other's identities would have worked better had it not been done in such a heavy handed way. While Scorn outright hated the dynamic duo, Wrath was at least impressed with Batman's prowess, noting how alike they were.

Wrath & Scorn organize Penguin, Joker, Ventriloquist & Killer Croc into a gang, and all seem to be aboard for it, save Joker. It was good seeing Wesker again, and it made sense that Penguin would be for organizing, considering his own "Team Penguin" (of which Croc was a member). Ron Perlman's "Southern Twang" for Croc still takes a little getting used to and always reminds me of Leatherhead from the original Ninja Turtles cartoon. Harley makes a cameo but doesn't speak. Unfortunately, it seems Batman can figure out where the rogues will strike simply by being aware of any large sort of gathering or shipment involving money, and sure enough, he hits paydirt. The rogues flee empty-handed, but Wrath deduces his identity.

However, instead of using this knowledge to organize an army of the underworld, which would be successful or at least worthy of an envelop-pushing episode, Wrath & Scorn try to ambush the duo in the Batcave themselves. They slap Alfred around a bit and to be fair, Batman & Robin literally can't beat them physically. They are too evenly matched and the odds seem to fall against them the longer they brawl. Batman has to resort to bat-summoning sonics to dispatch the pair (causing Wrath to fall about 15-30 feet and bounce off a rock on the way down, which defeats him).

The ending seems on the verge of offering a moral dilemma; Wrath vows to tell everyone Batman's secret if he is arrested. Batman is faced with little choice; it is against his code to release a criminal simply for personal gain (unless you're Catwoman, and she usually escapes on her own, although Batman seems to try less hard with her), but without his identity, his Batman identity is finished. Of course, Bruce could still be a crime-fighter without a secret identity (everyone knows Oliver Queen is Green Arrow and that doesn't stop him, for instance), it would simply be harder and his allies would be at risk. Alas for Wrath & Scorn, Joker masquarades as a cop and gases them. Batman & Robin then leave them all smiles to chase the Barefoot clown.

Now...how exactly will this settle the problem? Joker created his current gas incarnation in Season 1 or 2 and Batman has always created a handy antidote. It is presumed that anyone he gases is cured, otherwise that lottery woman just died on screen; and if THAT is allowed, why can't Wrath have dead parents mentioned? I would assume that Gordon and the police probably have stored some antidote for Joker's gas considering how often he uses it around Gotham, or Batman would keep having to send them vials. I refuse to believe that gased characters die on screen, especially as Batman shows no worry for them; they simply are immobilized and can be saved in time. So after Wrath & Scorn are cured, how does that stop them from blabbing? A J'onn mindwipe?

Another major problem is that considering Wrath is about defending criminals and trying to give cops as much hassle as possible (he tries to crush one police car with some barrels), why wasn't Gordon involved? THE BATMAN used to also have Det. Yin, who was REALLY missed here. Without any police allies to be threatened, there was no emotional involvement in the rescues or attacks.

As it was, it was an average episode with some good action, a simple plot and some good one-liners. But it had the potential to be so much more, and THE BATMAN dropped the ball. Rare, isn't it? :whatever: I hate seeing episodes that have the potential to be classics instead become mediocre, especially with using a low popularity rogue that Bruce Timm never touched (the closest he got was LOCK-UP, which was a much better episode than this). Sometimes an episode that fumbles good potential is worse than one that outright sucked, if that makes sense. Ugh.

Three more Superfriends team-up's to go.
 
Now...how exactly will this settle the problem? Joker created his current gas incarnation in Season 1 or 2 and Batman has always created a handy antidote. It is presumed that anyone he gases is cured, otherwise that lottery woman just died on screen; and if THAT is allowed, why can't Wrath have dead parents mentioned? I would assume that Gordon and the police probably have stored some antidote for Joker's gas considering how often he uses it around Gotham, or Batman would keep having to send them vials. I refuse to believe that gased characters die on screen, especially as Batman shows no worry for them; they simply are immobilized and can be saved in time. So after Wrath & Scorn are cured, how does that stop them from blabbing? A J'onn mindwipe?

Sounds about right. Identity Crisis anyone?

I also agree about Catwoman. We haven't really seen her since that "Rumor" episode, right? She woulda been a nice fit. Also, I'm guessing Batman "tries less hard" to get her cuz she never really endangers anybody. She's a jewel thief/animal rights activist.
 
Sounds about right. Identity Crisis anyone?

I also agree about Catwoman. We haven't really seen her since that "Rumor" episode, right? She woulda been a nice fit. Also, I'm guessing Batman "tries less hard" to get her cuz she never really endangers anybody. She's a jewel thief/animal rights activist.

THE BATMAN has often had some issues with identity crisises with rogues. In "Ragdolls to Riches", Wayne and Selina meet in their civilian identities and plant tracers on each other, or some bag Ragdoll has, or something, I forget. All I recall is in that episode, they should have easily figured out who the other was, but it never happened.

I feel sorry for Catwoman in this show. Gina Gershon actually gives a good performance every time; she simply is given campy 60's fare to work with. She has the post 2000 costume design but acts like she did in the old Adam West show, with heapings of cheese to go with the claws. Plus, as soon as Batgirl showed up, all flirting seemed to die. Indeed, "Rumors" was her last appearence, when Batman & Robin essentially defeated nearly every rogue in the series with Bat-gadgets and flying kicks.

Man, this episode can't even compare to "Rumors". That was a solid episode. Rumor was essentially a Judge/Lock-Up Lite, but he worked.

Yeah, Catwoman usually is intent on stealing things rather than hurting people. This episode needed some rogues who worked along those lines, rather than the crazies. That, and Joker's already had 2 episodes this season, and I tire of him. I know the Mark Hamill Joker showed up a messload of times, too, but it seems like overkill here.

Like I said, Gordon and Yin were really missed this episode. I still have never heard a good reason why Yin left and never returned at the end of Season 2. She was a good supporting character and the series is in some ways weaker without the dynamic she had with Batman/Bruce.
 
Good episode. It seemed riskier than other episodes this season, and I liked the ambiguous, creepy ending with Wrath and Scorn laughing. I have to admit they made Wrath more comic-accurate than I thought they will.

Did anyone noticed the cops in this episode drawing real-looking guns at the bay scene?
 
Well I liked the episode very much, I found it a lot better than the previous one. Maybe the best of this season IMO. I found that they were doing more things in this episode. I was worried about the end : "how are they going to do this and resolve the problem in less than 40 seconds , hmmm "
I found the animation excellent. the fight between Wrath and batman is excellent!
For me Scorn and Robin were not necessary. The batcave destroyed, Alfred harmed, that was good stuff. I really felt that the Wrath was dangerous. Good episode for me. :up:
 
Come to think of it, Dread, Bratgirl's introduction did kind of ruin alot. Yin was a way better confidant. I think the kid could have been made more bearable if she was introduced to us as Barbara over a couple of episodes and not shoved down everybody's throat. I'd say the same for Robin but frankly, Season 4 was just so much better written.

And no, the Ep doesn't compare to Rumors but it beats the sneaks past everything in this humdrum season.

For me Scorn and Robin were not necessary. The batcave destroyed, Alfred harmed, that was good stuff. I really felt that the Wrath was dangerous. Good episode for me.
Ditto.
 
Eh. I liked how Wrath was presented, but Scorn was just annoyance. I would've much rather had them introduce Wrath in Season 2, when Batman was on his own, as there could've been more emphasis on a mystery about who Wrath is and why he's so alike to Batman. Here, however, I knew exactly who they were the minute that Alfred mentioned "The Mallory's", in the beginning.

Romano's performance as Wrath was excellent. He played it much differently than I thought he would, given I expected him to just be doing his Batman voice with 'evil' dialogue. Good surprise. Too bad Scorn, and the simplistic plot turns weighed it all down.
 
Eh. I liked how Wrath was presented, but Scorn was just annoyance. I would've much rather had them introduce Wrath in Season 2, when Batman was on his own, as there could've been more emphasis on a mystery about who Wrath is and why he's so alike to Batman. Here, however, I knew exactly who they were the minute that Alfred mentioned "The Mallory's", in the beginning.

Romano's performance as Wrath was excellent. He played it much differently than I thought he would, given I expected him to just be doing his Batman voice with 'evil' dialogue. Good surprise. Too bad Scorn, and the simplistic plot turns weighed it all down.

Actually, Wrath was played by a different voice actor, Christopher Gorham. Scorn was voiced by Evan Sabara's brother, Daryl.
 
Well, that explains some things. I thought Romano was just that good of an actor. :O

Either way, great performance.
 
It scraped too much of the surface of what was potentially a good episode

I don't know why they went down the whole criminal bounty hunter idea and not the commisoner gordon one.

Not sure how effective the ending was either.

As for mallory's parent's, bruce should have been able to deduce that anywho. They still should have been dead.

Liked how the batcave was destroyed but they could have made a larger emphasis on it.

Ep should have really been a two parter and there was no need for mallory's little brother either.

This was a perfect way to show how dark a batman character could have been. Having scorn with proper lethal weapons, real dark twisted logic, painful grieving of his parents, batgirl being the central character that is attacked as vengeance

And i honestly don't know what has happened to the action in this show, it's certainly lost its bite. I remember the days when batman would suplex big guys and you would be like DAMN but it's gone far too soft.

WIth all these elements, it's still probably the best episode of the season.

Nice twist ending but not sure how effective it was. I would prefer if the joker would have taken his bro as hostage or something
 
This was a perfect way to show how dark a batman character could have been. Having scorn with proper lethal weapons, real dark twisted logic, painful grieving of his parents, batgirl being the central character that is attacked as vengeance

Are you sure you aren't talking about Wrath? Wrath was the anti-Batman and Scorn was the anti-Robin.
 

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