The limitations of democracy and civil liberties...

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Let's make America great again! Export all the idiots and lawyers.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I didn't mention race. You can choose your religion. Refusing service =\= persecution or oppression in relation to religion imo. Free market.

You can't force a religion to go against itself or a business to bend to another's religion. I shouldn't be able to sue a Jewish deli because my religion says bacon is ok. That's silly. But, a Muslim woman can sue an airline for putting her on leave because she wouldn't serve alcohol. What's next, a Jehova's witness employee suing a bakery because they are required to make birthday cakes? It's either all silly or it's all allowed. Hobby Lobby shouldn't be forced to provide contraception unless medically necessary. We have no common sense anymore.

Yes you have to draw the line somewhere but I don't think it's an all or nothing situation.

A) Businesses aren't allowed to discriminate against job applicants or customers based on their religious beliefs.

Seems reasonable.

You can't refuse to hire a Christian or refuse to serve Christians strictly based on their religion.

B) Should a worker be required, by an employer, to do a job that conflicts with their religious beliefs.

This is a can of worms.

You can't force a liquor business to hire a Muslim or Christian then penalize them when they fire the Muslim or Christian for refusing to do any work relating to alcohol.

If someone refuses to do a normal job requirement, a business should be allowed to fire them and look for other employess.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Federal law is the limit of course. Federal law states no segregation based on race.

Again, free market principles. If we had one government bakery then that would be a different story.

So how do you know a Federal law goes too far when protecting minorities in different states?

Is any Federal law okay as long as it doesn't interfere with the free market?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

So Trump won.

Failure of democracy?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

So Trump won?

Failure of democracy?

By it's nature a democratic republic will have outcomes like this. The question is the system in place strong enough to withstand personalities like Trump.

There is something to be said about our culture being awash in conspiracy theories and low information voters uncritically "going with their gut".

In the end, I don't believe that anything happens in this country more or less, where the responsibility of the outcome cannot be laid at the feet of the voters.