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They womped the Mets.
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Who don't have a bullpen.
They womped the Mets.
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How do you know they have that many posts in here?Is their a way to look?
Congrats to the Red Sox and Cubs on winning the divisions.
Edit: Nevermind Fran
why isnt soriano and his 13 september homers being considered for mvp?
sorry to gloat yankees fans, but that last night was awesome. i seriously didn't think the yanks would lose that game. it feels good to finish the regular season on top. i'm sure i'll be disappointed in the playoffs, but i'm gonna enjoy this moment for a little while.
congrats cubs fans, even gr87.
I don't think you will have anything to be disappointed about.

ESPN.com's Rob Neyer said:Papi's been better than you think
Look, I did know that David Ortiz is having a great year. I have to admit, though, that until reading Richard Lally's brain dump today, I didn't realize how great ...
Last night in my local pub, a Boston Red Sox fan -- a great guy, who rather than simply say "Hello," often greets me with his team's latest score as in "5-3, 5-3, we're down by two runs..." -- was bemoaning David Ortiz's disappointing season. "His home runs are down," he said, "he's hurt, he doesn't have Manny [Ramirez] protecting him." Last night in Fenway Park, the apparently washed-up David Ortiz went 4 for 4 in a 5-4 loss to the Twins. He hit his 34th homer and his 51st double and walked in the ninth to reach base safely in nine consecutive plate appearances. This morning in the world as we know it, David Ortiz leads the American League in on-base percentage by 14 points (.444), ranks third in slugging (.615) and leads the AL in OPS (1.059), rendering my friend's comments into one more piece of evidence for the prosecution that Red Sox fans compose one tough room to work ... If I had an MVP vote -- and everyone is thankful that I don't -- Ortiz would rank fourth behind Alex Rodriguez, Magglio Ordonez and Jorge Posada. That's some disappointing season.
From 2003 (his first season with the Sox) through 2006, Ortiz finished fifth, fourth, second and third in the MVP balloting. His OPS+ this season is better than in any of those seasons. Yet I will predict with great confidence that he'll fare worse in the voting this year than he has since joining the Red Sox.
Why? Two reasons, both of them related to perception as much as performance.
One, there's a perception -- as articulated by Lally's friend at the pub -- that Ortiz simply isn't the dangerous hitter that we've come to expect. After all, he's hit only 34 home runs. That's one objective truth. Here are others: he's batting .330, he leads the American League in walks, and he's got 51 doubles. All of which add up to a 1.059 OPS, the highest in the league (yes, even higher than A-Rod's).
Two, there's a perception that Ortiz isn't delivering in the clutch as we've come to expect. After all, it's all those clutch hits that got him noticed in the first place. Remember, in 2005, Red Sox owner John Henry presented Ortiz with a plaque that named him "The Greatest Clutch Hitter in the History of the Red Sox." OK, so that was a bit over the top ... but all Ortiz did was come back in 2006 and deliver a bunch more game-winners.
This year, though? Not so much. He's got just one walk-off homer all season (in this game). He's actually done well in most "clutch" situations this season ... except the most visible situation: when the game's been "late and close" -- that is, with the Red Sox tied, ahead by one, or the tying run at least on deck -- Ortiz has batted .263 with just the one home run in 89 plate appearances. By comparison, in 2005 he hit 11 late-and-close homers.
That doesn't bother me, and it shouldn't bother anybody else. After all, all of Ortiz's hits before the seventh inning count, too. But Ortiz just hasn't been showing up on SportsCenter this season as we're used to, and that's going to hurt him in the MVP balloting. He's a victim of his own past success. There's simply no way that he could continue to do, year in and year out, what he's done in the last inning of close games. Even if he really does have some sort of magical clutch ability, he was bound to have a down year eventually, if only because the sample sizes are small.
Make no mistake, though: while Ortiz isn't going to get a lot of love from the baseball writers this weekend when they're filling out their MVP ballots, when you watch him in October you'll still be watching one of the most devastating hitters in the game.
standard protocol; keepin' my expectations low to avoid being disappointed.![]()
You don't need to do that anymore, those days are over.


Phillies need to win tommorow....The Mets don't deserve a trip to the playoffs
Phillies need to win tommorow....The Mets don't deserve a trip to the playoffs
I think so, not sure how they decide who gets home field. Guess it would be whoever won the season series.
Phills don't deserve it... most people in that city could care less about that team. Hopefully its Pedro, Orlando, Wagner sealing the deal on Monday.