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Venom 1988 said:
Im watching the KindaFunny livestream reaction to this news and they brought up something interesing that I never really thought about before. Are consoles starting to go the way of cell phones where every few years we're getting a new console? And when we get exclusive games, it's not so much a PS5 or PS6 exclusive game. It will be available on all PS consoles, it's just depending on what type of console you have, graphically/performance wise it be only "slightly" better or worse.
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We already have that, its called a PC. Sony and Microsoft have completely lost the plot on what console gaming is supposed to be.
 
Gee said:
700 USD/800 Euros.
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I predicted this one. Without an equivalent console to compete against, every Sony console going forward is likely to be expensive.
 
Superhero 101 said:
Oh boi Sony! They really need to read the room… This is just another L for them…..
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another L? my friend, this is THE L of Ls!
Joe Von Zombie said:
Sony is smoking ****ing crack. 800 bucks for the worst first party lineup they've had in the history of the brand is a big hard pass from me.
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remind me to vote you as funniest poster next year 🤣
 
Euro guys really suffering but they have even less competition there. In the past you could have got both PS & Xbox consoles for not much more at a euro price.
 
a) Return of arrogant late PS2-PS3 “get a second job” Sony - less competition when the Xbox truck loses a wheel or two
b) Japan’s weak currency
c) Sony blowing hundreds of millions on (12 at one point) GaaS games and studio buyouts with little hope of return on investment (passing the fallout onto consumers in the form of higher prices)

The future doesn’t look very bright for Sony as they undergo the en****tification process many other companies have engaged in.

I don’t care about the PS5 Pro with their increasingly lame lineup over the years.
 
I use the disc drive on my PS5 almost every day. I'm not buying a Pro console without a disc drive, and it feels insulting to pay that much to buy it separately. I love new tech, but I think I'll have to skip this one. It's a bummer, Sony.
 
XtremelyBaneful said:
and to coincide with today's horrible announcement...
www.eurogamer.net

Games industry layoffs not the result of corporate greed and those affected should "drive an Uber", says ex-Sony president

Ex-Sony Computer Entertainment Europe president Chris Deering does not believe recent layoffs across the games industry…
www.eurogamer.net www.eurogamer.net
does anyone else feels like this sounds like "get a 2nd job to afford your Ps3"?
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Unless you’re a game dev and we’ll fire you from your existing job. :crying:
 


From the PS3 onward PS+ was introduced to at least partially subsidize the console cost if I understand correctly, same with Xbox and their subscription service. So normalizing it to inflation doesn't quite work.
 
MagnarTheGreat said:


From the PS3 onward PS+ was introduced to at least partially subsidize the console cost if I understand correctly, same with Xbox and their subscription service. So normalizing it to inflation doesn't quite work.
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inflation or not, it is a bad ass look to sell new playstation hardware for this much and not even cutting the price of the current gen console.
 
I should've waited and gotten the slim last year instead of the OG model, that way I wouldn't have to get the disc drive separately.

I'm still interested in this, though I was expecting it to be $600, but right now I'll wait to see if there's any interesting software coming in the next year or so (aside from GTA VI), and how many games will get Pro support. Maybe this will finally make the current gen version of Elden Ring playable.

The biggest upgrade will definitely be the ML features, like adding PSSR to existing games and upping the resolutions. Star Wars: Outlaws and most UE5 games look like a blurry mess right now by abusing FSR2 past its breaking point.
 
I hope this backfires as this would affect how they will launch the PS6. 2028 isn't that far, and it should be announced in late 2027.

i know this pro console is more for the hardcore players but still. No competition from Xbox plays a factor in pricing.
 

psylockolussus said:
I hope this backfires as this would affect how they will launch the PS6. 2028 isn't that far, and it should be announced in late 2027.

i know this pro console is more for the hardcore players but still. No competition from Xbox plays a factor in pricing.
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we'll have to wait and see if the backfire will make them suffer at all. IGN is already reporting that it is poised to flop.
www.ign.com

Polls Show Only Around 10-15 Percent Plan to Buy PS5 Pro, Most Consider It Too Expensive - IGN

In separate polls conducted by IGN after the reveal of the PS5 Pro, only about 10 - 15 percent of respondents said they were planning to buy Sony's newly-upgraded console, with most saying that it's too expensive.
www.ign.com www.ign.com
 
I'm still in awe of how painfully ****ing stupid all of this is. Who is this even for? The graphics ****es and tech junkies are primarily on PC anyway.
 
Joe Von Zombie said:
I'm still in awe of how painfully ****ing stupid all of this is. Who is this even for? The graphics ****es and tech junkies are primarily on PC anyway.
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The thing is when Ps6 comes out, the PS5 pro would stop production first before the ps5 slim. Similar to how Ps4 pro's production ended before the ps4 slim. So this pro version is more like a luxury thing, and not really a practical one. Its like Sony is manufacturing this for those who want to splurge more and get the extra power for the graphics. But the Ps5 slim should work as fine anyway to ps5 games as the ps5 pro. The graphical differences won't be Night and day, and people would only see the real difference, if they both have each model.

This isn't also coinciding with a big Ps5 exclusive game. If they were launching Ps5 pro intime for the Wolverine game or a new Spider-Man, that would be good timing as some people who don't have a ps5 yet might use those new games as excuse to pay higher for a PS5 pro. While third party games for Q4 like AC Shadows and COD are available for Pc/Series X at the same time as PS5, so its not the same as ps5 timed exclusive game.
 
With a price like that, it's amazing that Sony didn't announce Ridge Racer as a title that would be bundled with the console.

 
I never did like the look of the slim model PS5 heck the only slim model of a Sony console I liked was the 1st slim PS3 and the slim PS2. I am quite happy with my last of the 'fat' PS5 with the aftermarket black shells (kept the OG ones in the box if I ever part with it).
 
psylockolussus said:
The thing is when Ps6 comes out, the PS5 pro would stop production first before the ps5 slim. Similar to how Ps4 pro's production ended before the ps4 slim. So this pro version is more like a luxury thing, and not really a practical one. Its like Sony is manufacturing this for those who want to splurge more and get the extra power for the graphics. But the Ps5 slim should work as fine anyway to ps5 games as the ps5 pro. The graphical differences won't be Night and day, and people would only see the real difference, if they both have each model.

This isn't also coinciding with a big Ps5 exclusive game. If they were launching Ps5 pro intime for the Wolverine game or a new Spider-Man, that would be good timing as some people who don't have a ps5 yet might use those new games as excuse to pay higher for a PS5 pro. While third party games for Q4 like AC Shadows and COD are available for Pc/Series X at the same time as PS5, so its not the same as ps5 timed exclusive game.
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Even as luxury item, it still seems ridiculous. I'm primarily on PC and switch because the majority of first party offerings aren't exclusive anyway. If you're going in for a luxury PS5, you might as well invest in a PC. I have the Spider-Man ps4 pro because my previous console died and Spider-Mans PC port wasn't a thought at the time anyway. That's the missing piece of this particular puzzle for me. The exclusive software library simply isn't there. There's a strong case to be made for the current generation being the worst console generation to date
 
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Joe Von Zombie said:
Even as luxury item, it still seems ridiculous. I'm primarily on PC and switch because the the majority of first party offerings aren't exclusive anyway. If you're going in for a luxury PS5, you might as well invest in a PC. I have the Spider-Man ps4 pro because my previous console died and Spider-Mans PC port wasn't a thought at the time anyway. That's the missing piece of this particular puzzle for me. The exclusive software library simply isn't there. There's a strong case to be made for the current generation being the worst console generation to date
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This pro version costs less than as an iPhone, if I'm not mistaken. And for someone who doesn't have an iPhone, the price of a PS5 is already luxurious. Its also close to those designer bags. I do think for hardcore gamers who buys everything. $200 dollars more than the og Ps5 isn't much. I also don't think the target for this is your casual gamer. I still hope this flops, because I'm not a fan of a "pro" version of anything.
 
psylockolussus said:
This pro version costs less than as an iPhone, if I'm not mistaken. And for someone who doesn't have an iPhone, the price of a PS5 is already luxurious. Its also close to those designer bags. I do think for hardcore gamers who buys everything. $200 dollars more than the og Ps5 isn't much. I also don't think the target for this is your casual gamer. I still hope this flops, because I'm not a fan of a "pro" version of anything.
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Hardcore gamers are laughing at this thing because they're on PC and their pc does more. Sorry to sound like an elitist but thats the reality of Hardcore gaming in 2024. The iPhone analogy is a false equivalency because most people don't pay for their phones upfront. It's bundled with their service and paid for over time. I think this thing is absolutely going to bomb hard. There's no exclusive software to support it, no practical audience for it, and the Hardcore crowd it's aimed at thinks it's a joke.
 
Joe Von Zombie said:
Hardcore gamers are laughing at this thing because they're on PC and their pc does more. Sorry to sound like an elitist but thats the reality of Hardcore gaming in 2024. The iPhone analogy is a false equivalency because most people don't pay for their phones upfront. It's bundled with their service and paid for over time. I think this thing is absolutely going to bomb hard. There's no exclusive software to support it, no practical audience for it, and the Hardcore crowd it's aimed at thinks it's a joke.
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it's also a false equivalency because smartphones have annual generations whereas video game consoles have generations that are more than half of a decade, and they always sell tens of millions of units more than video game consoles for higher prices. this is one of those things that as luxury products, the two industries aren't really comparable.
 
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