Playstation The Official Playstation 5 Thread

[X Knight]

I suspect I'll like the slightly larger size and heft of the PS5 controller.

 

[psylockolussus]

Each gen's controller has been a refinement of the previous gen. The PS5 controller still the same basic shape and same layout. And it could be much much worse.

The silhouette of the ps5 is different from the ps4 especially the sides. Like if we compare the controller of ps1 to ps3, they look like siblings. While Ps4 and ps5, don't even look like cousins.

The bommerang controller, looks odd and too sci-fi. I wouldn't call it hideous but i understood why Sony went back to the Ps2's design.

 

[spiderman2]

Ghost of Tsushima and its 83 score on metacritic is the 17th highest for a ps4 exclusive kind of gives you a idea of just how many games are rated high on ps4.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas.../#14b84c317f38

Only 2 of them are remakes/remasters. 6 of them are new IP. You also have a few games just below 83 like TLG at 82 or infamous second son at a 80. I cant remember the last time a xbox exclusive game outside of halo, Gears of war or Froza got a 80+ on xbox that was not by a independent developer at least as i know cuphead got a 80+ and so did both ori games. It may have been sunset over drive and its 81 back in 2014 and that is made by what is now a first party sony studio. So yeah this is why i don't think Sony will have to worry about xbox next gen. Sony always delivers good game. Xbox has a lot to prove. It is pretty crazy just how many more good reviewed games sony had this gen then xbox.

 

[psylockolussus]

Xbox would need more than one miracle to top off Sony. PlayStation got the eXclusives that are highly rated, and their games are so diverse. Like I have no desire to play Bloodborne, Crank & Rachet, Days Gone, Gran Turismo, Ragdoll to name a few because I have a feeling I would suck at those games or they don't just interest me. But at the same time, PlayStation has other offerings that I know I would play or already played - ex. Uncharted, Spider-Man, God of War, Horizon, Detroit Become Human, Ghosts of Tsushima.

I feel like Xbox is really starting to fade away. Just from the sales perspective and the general game community. I just can't see Microsoft releasing games both in PC and Xbox for the next ten years and not lose the one that its been dropping in public interest for how many years now? That'd be like if Nintendo is releasing popular games for the Switch and they are also manufacturing a GameCube 3 and releasing games for it. While handheld consoles for Sony is now dead. See, even the more successful gaming companies have lost products throughout the years. I'd be surprised if XboX suddenly gets a renaissance in the next several years. Their big games are going to come out in pc anyway.

 

[psylockolussus]

Ghost of Tsushima and its 83 score on metacritic is the 17th highest for a ps4 exclusive kind of gives you a idea of just how many games are rated high on ps4.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultas.../#14b84c317f38

Only 2 of them are remakes/remasters. 6 of them are new IP. You also have a few games just below 83 like TLG at 82 or infamous second son at a 80. I cant remember the last time a xbox exclusive game outside of halo, Gears of war or Froza got a 80+ on xbox that was not by a independent developer at least as i know cuphead got a 80+ and so did both ori games. It may have been sunset over drive and its 81 back in 2014 and that is made by what is now a first party sony studio. So yeah this is why i don't think Sony will have to worry about xbox next gen. Sony always delivers good game. Xbox has a lot to prove. It is pretty crazy just how many more good reviewed games sony had this gen then xbox.

The link is broken. Can you fix that

Edit: found the Forbes article and this
https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/ps4?sort=desc&page=0

So the only one from the top ten I didn't play is Persona.

 

[Gee]

Their big games are going to come out in pc anyway.

With the success of HZD and DS on Steam, Sony is leaving money on the table so hopefully they will bring their exclusives on PC this coming gen.

 

[spiderman2]

The link is broken. Can you fix that

Edit: found the Forbes article and this
https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/ps4?sort=desc&page=0

So the only one from the top ten I didn't play is Persona.

Not sure what happen but here you go.

‘Ghost Of Tsushima’ Is PS4's 17th Best Scored Exclusive, Which Says A Lot

I didnt play 10 of them lol but just kind of gives you a idea of the amount of games they have and how there is bound to be some games that you really like on there. Several of them i had zero interest in becuase they are just not my kind of game but that is ok still a lot to play between what i do like on here and also multiplatform games.

 

[I Am The Knight]

With the success of HZD and DS on Steam, Sony is leaving money on the table so hopefully they will bring their exclusives on PC this coming gen.

Personally I prefer exclusives to be actually exclusives, makes the console more special.

 

[X Knight]

Personally I prefer exclusives to be actually exclusives, makes the console more special.

I agree. If you are going to release it on PC, then do the "staggered" approach Sony is taking where you release it on console first then release it on PC a year or more later.

Exclusives force you to buy that particular console or platform, because you have no choice.

If it released on console and PC at the same time, like MS does with Xbox 1st party titles, then technically you have a choice on which platform to play on and you are not forced to play on one particular system.

 

[psylockolussus]

With the success of HZD and DS on Steam, Sony is leaving money on the table so hopefully they will bring their exclusives on PC this coming gen.

Horizon came out to pc like what 3 years after ps4 release? While Death Stranding didn't sell like hot pancakes but still, DS is like 25 dollars now for the ps4. I also think Horizon 1 coming out to pc is to convince other people to get the sequel when it comes to the ps5 (which is going to be additional sales for Sony's new console as people would be buying ps5 just for the sequel).

 

[psylockolussus]

Not sure what happen but here you go.

‘Ghost Of Tsushima’ Is PS4's 17th Best Scored Exclusive, Which Says A Lot

I didnt play 10 of them lol but just kind of gives you a idea of the amount of games they have and how there is bound to be some games that you really like on there. Several of them i had zero interest in becuase they are just not my kind of game but that is ok still a lot to play between what i do like on here and also multiplatform games.

For the top ten highest rated ps4 eXclusives. I've only played 6.

I dont think I could play Bloodborne and any games that is similar to it. The crushing difficulty would not be good for my short patience. Persona and any games with the similar graphic style isn't for me. While Flower is an easy skip as I've played Journey and it was so short.

 

[Iceman]

Sony are limiting the number of PS5s you can preorder to one per customer. Good move IMO to prevent some part of the price gouging that often occurs when items like this sell out.

 

[Calvin Ellis]

Sony are limiting the number of PS5s you can preorder to one per customer. Good move IMO to prevent some part of the price gouging that often occurs when items like this sell out.

They have to first allow you to preorder it.

 

[spiderman2]

Just thought this was awesome being that we have basically ended big ps4 exclusives now.

 

[psylockolussus]

eXceptional.

I like Ps4's eXclusives are mostly 3rd person. I don't think I would ever purchase a 1st person game especially if its a new IP. Hopefully the ps5 would have more of these big eXclusives.

 

[X Knight]

So, after being disappointed by the underwhelming (imo) Xbox showcase, I decided to rewatch the PS5 event to compare. And, to me, there's no comparison. Sony had the better event overall.

Again, as I said initially, I don't feel the Sony event was a slam dunk, home run, knock out, perfect 10 of an event. However, unlike the Xbox showcase, the Sony event never felt "safe" or boring."

I even gauged how I was feeling 50 minutes into the Sony event, compared to how I was feeling 50 minutes into the Xbox event.

I remember with the Xbox event, 50 minutes in, I was thinking "Wow. They better do something big in these last 10 minutes and pull that Fable rabbit out of their hat. Because this whole show has been kind of boring and not that great so far."

50 minutes into the Sony event, I was already impressed by a number of the games shown, including new ip like Kena and Project Athia. True, not everything interested me, but I was not feeling like I was still waiting for Sony to wow me with something big. And then, for the next 20 minutes, we still get Demon's Souls, Resident Evil VIII, Horizon 2, and of course, the PS5 reveal.

I think there were 2 main differences between the shows. For the Sony event, the clear focus, the star of the show, was the PS5. The whole purpose of the show was to sell you on the vision for the next generation of gaming. With the Xbox event, it seemed like the real star of the show was Gamepass rather than trying to convince you to buy the Series X to experience next gen gaming.

Also, in the Sony event, there was a clear emphasis on showing some form of gameplay. I'd say that most of the titles shown had gameplay in some form or another. Not all games did this, of course, but even a lot of the cinematic trailers had segments of gameplay woven into the trailer. And, it was clearly stated in the show, that everything you see is running on a PS5.

Contrast that to the Xbox event, where outside of the Halo demo, there was actually very little gameplay shown. And then you find out even the Halo demo was running on a PC with Series X specs.

 

[spiderman2]

eXceptional.

I like Ps4's eXclusives are mostly 3rd person. I don't think I would ever purchase a 1st person game especially if its a new IP. Hopefully the ps5 would have more of these big eXclusives.

Yeah i hate first person my self. If a game is first person i basically lose any kind of interest in playing it the moment it is shown. Ps5 is in great shape already knowing that we are getting spiderman mm, a full spiderman sequle, ratchet and clank rift apart, and Horizon forbidden west, and GOW 2, and maybe even Horizon 3 and maybe spiderman 3 and who knows what other new games we may get from like bend studios and that new SD studios.

 

[X Knight]

I also agree about 1st person vs 3rd person. While I won't lose interest totally if a game is 1st person, I will find myself less interested, as I prefer 3rd person. All the camera movement in 1st person tends to give me motion sickness.

In order to get me to play a 1st person game, the story, lore, and characters have to be interesting and it has to involve some kind of magic or "powers" beyond just gunplay. So that's probably why I'll be interested in a Bioshock game, but less interested in a Halo game.

 

[spiderman2]

So, after being disappointed by the underwhelming (imo) Xbox showcase, I decided to rewatch the PS5 event to compare. And, to me, there's no comparison. Sony had the better event overall.

Again, as I said initially, I don't feel the Sony event was a slam dunk, home run, knock out, perfect 10 of an event. However, unlike the Xbox showcase, the Sony event never felt "safe" or boring."

I even gauged how I was feeling 50 minutes into the Sony event, compared to how I was feeling 50 minutes into the Xbox event.

I remember with the Xbox event, 50 minutes in, I was thinking "Wow. They better do something big in these last 10 minutes and pull that Fable rabbit out of their hat. Because this whole show has been kind of boring and not that great so far."

50 minutes into the Sony event, I was already impressed by a number of the games shown, including new ip like Kena and Project Athia. True, not everything interested me, but I was not feeling like I was still waiting for Sony to wow me with something big. And then, for the next 20 minutes, we still get Demon's Souls, Resident Evil VIII, Horizon 2, and of course, the PS5 reveal.

I think there were 2 main differences between the shows. For the Sony event, the clear focus, the star of the show, was the PS5. The whole purpose of the show was to sell you on the vision for the next generation of gaming. With the Xbox event, it seemed like the real star of the show was Gamepass rather than trying to convince you to buy the Series X to experience next gen gaming.

Also, in the Sony event, there was a clear emphasis on showing some form of gameplay. I'd say that most of the titles shown had gameplay in some form or another. Not all games did this, of course, but even a lot of the cinematic trailers had segments of gameplay woven into the trailer. And, it was clearly stated in the show, that everything you see is running on a PS5.

Contrast that to the Xbox event, where outside of the Halo demo, there was actually very little gameplay shown. And then you find out even the Halo demo was running on a PC with Series X specs.

No contest for me for sure. Halo looked worse than several ps4 exclusives where Horizon forbidden looked way better graphic wise than any thing we have ever seen on consoles. Ratchet and clank with the jumping threw portals showed what the ssd can do and something xbox didnt have at all in there show. Ps5 show had 5 games i am getting for sure that are ps5 exclusives and 1 other game i might get. Xbox on the other hand only thing that looked good was the game the gunk and Pyschonuts 2 and that game is multiplatform at that. Also xbox had a game show back in like may. So xbox has already had 2 shows showing games. Sony has only had 1 meaning sony is likely the one that has held back the most and still has the most to show.

 

[spiderman2]

I also agree about 1st person vs 3rd person. While I won't lose interest totally if a game is 1st person, I will find myself less interested, as I prefer 3rd person. All the camera movement in 1st person tends to give me motion sickness.

In order to get me to play a 1st person game, the story, lore, and characters have to be interesting and it has to involve some kind of magic or "powers" beyond just gunplay. So that's probably why I'll be interested in a Bioshock game, but less interested in a Halo game.

1st person camera angle just confuses the heck out of me like where i will get lost and fall of mountains and stuff. Also a lot of 1st person games are shooters and i fell like all 1st person shooters basically play the same.

 

[psylockolussus]

So, after being disappointed by the underwhelming (imo) Xbox showcase, I decided to rewatch the PS5 event to compare. And, to me, there's no comparison. Sony had the better event overall.

Again, as I said initially, I don't feel the Sony event was a slam dunk, home run, knock out, perfect 10 of an event. However, unlike the Xbox showcase, the Sony event never felt "safe" or boring."

I even gauged how I was feeling 50 minutes into the Sony event, compared to how I was feeling 50 minutes into the Xbox event.

I remember with the Xbox event, 50 minutes in, I was thinking "Wow. They better do something big in these last 10 minutes and pull that Fable rabbit out of their hat. Because this whole show has been kind of boring and not that great so far."

50 minutes into the Sony event, I was already impressed by a number of the games shown, including new ip like Kena and Project Athia. True, not everything interested me, but I was not feeling like I was still waiting for Sony to wow me with something big. And then, for the next 20 minutes, we still get Demon's Souls, Resident Evil VIII, Horizon 2, and of course, the PS5 reveal.

I think there were 2 main differences between the shows. For the Sony event, the clear focus, the star of the show, was the PS5. The whole purpose of the show was to sell you on the vision for the next generation of gaming. With the Xbox event, it seemed like the real star of the show was Gamepass rather than trying to convince you to buy the Series X to experience next gen gaming.

Also, in the Sony event, there was a clear emphasis on showing some form of gameplay. I'd say that most of the titles shown had gameplay in some form or another. Not all games did this, of course, but even a lot of the cinematic trailers had segments of gameplay woven into the trailer. And, it was clearly stated in the show, that everything you see is running on a PS5.

Contrast that to the Xbox event, where outside of the Halo demo, there was actually very little gameplay shown. And then you find out even the Halo demo was running on a PC with Series X specs.

I watch the xbox livestream this month, and even if those games are coming tothe ps5, I'm just not interested. Maybe the Ant-Man-ish game, if I have to pick one. But eh. Then the third person games they have are mostly horror, while the big ones are mostly first person. I didn't like first person back in the 90s and I will never get into it.

 

[psylockolussus]

Yeah i hate first person my self. If a game is first person i basically lose any kind of interest in playing it the moment it is shown. Ps5 is in great shape already knowing that we are getting spiderman mm, a full spiderman sequle, ratchet and clank rift apart, and Horizon forbidden west, and GOW 2, and maybe even Horizon 3 and maybe spiderman 3 and who knows what other new games we may get from like bend studios and that new SD studios.

Third party games like GTA VI, a bunch of Resident Evil games are probably going to come out in ps5 several years from now. A Naught Dog would come out as well. I hope its a new ip. The great thing about PlayStation is they have these big eXclusives and at the same time, third party games that won't come out in Switch (or the Xbox, for example Street Fighter V).

I also agree about 1st person vs 3rd person. While I won't lose interest totally if a game is 1st person, I will find myself less interested, as I prefer 3rd person. All the camera movement in 1st person tends to give me motion sickness.

In order to get me to play a 1st person game, the story, lore, and characters have to be interesting and it has to involve some kind of magic or "powers" beyond just gunplay. So that's probably why I'll be interested in a Bioshock game, but less interested in a Halo game.

I tried the first person perspective in GTA V, RDR2, Death Stranding, Mortal Kombat X and the two Assassin's Creed and for some reason, I just felt lost. I feel like I'm controlling a camera inserted in a drone (like in Watch Dogs 2) and I don'twant to play a whole game in that camera perspective. Like if I got a first person open world game for free, I don't think I would visit every location even if the graphics are great.

Personally,Its just not fun to play when I can only see the hands of the character that I am playing for majority of the game. And it gets worse when the character is riding a horse, vehicle or just running from something.

 

[X Knight]

Third party games like GTA VI, a bunch of Resident Evil games are probably going to come out in ps5 several years from now. A Naught Dog would come out as well. I hope its a new ip. The great thing about PlayStation is they have these big eXclusives and at the same time, third party games that won't come out in Switch (or the Xbox, for example Street Fighter V).


I tried the first person perspective in GTA V, RDR2, Death Stranding, Mortal Kombat X and the two Assassin's Creed and for some reason, I just felt lost. I feel like I'm controlling a camera inserted in a drone (like in Watch Dogs 2) and I don'twant to play a whole game in that camera perspective. Like if I got a first person open world game for free, I don't think I would visit every location even if the graphics are great.

Personally,Its just not fun to play when I can only see the hands of the character that I am playing for majority of the game. And it gets worse when the character is riding a horse, vehicle or just running from something.

Yeah. 3rd party exclusives are another strong suit of Playstation. And that's another thing that was missing from the Xbox showcase. The lack of a major 3rd party exclusive reveal.

Like, some of the so-called "leaks" hyping up the event mentioned that the next Ninja Gaiden game was going to be an Xbox exclusive. Which kind of makes sense given the history of NG games on Xbox. But, did we get a game like that at the Xbox showcase? No. Nothing close. If they did reveal something like that, especially if it was a 3rd party exclusive fighter or RPG game, that would have instantly upped my score for the event.

And that's a good point about 1st person games not really letting you see your character in full. I agree with that. I'll tolerate games like Skyrim and Fallout because you can switch between 1st and 3rd person. If those game were 1st person only, then I'd be way less interested. Especially with Fallout, because that's basically just gunplay. At least Skyrim is sword and sorcery set in a fantasy world. So I'd still be interested in that to some extent.

Same with Cyberpunk. It kind of sucks that you'll be able to create your character, but won't be able to really see much due to the 1st person camera. However, the setting and lore is different enough to interest me, so I'll still give it a try. Though I'd be way more interested if it were a 3rd person game.

 

[X Knight]

No contest for me for sure. Halo looked worse than several ps4 exclusives where Horizon forbidden looked way better graphic wise than any thing we have ever seen on consoles. Ratchet and clank with the jumping threw portals showed what the ssd can do and something xbox didnt have at all in there show. Ps5 show had 5 games i am getting for sure that are ps5 exclusives and 1 other game i might get. Xbox on the other hand only thing that looked good was the game the gunk and Pyschonuts 2 and that game is multiplatform at that. Also xbox had a game show back in like may. So xbox has already had 2 shows showing games. Sony has only had 1 meaning sony is likely the one that has held back the most and still has the most to show.

1st person camera angle just confuses the heck out of me like where i will get lost and fall of mountains and stuff. Also a lot of 1st person games are shooters and i fell like all 1st person shooters basically play the same.

Yeah, incidentally, that's pretty much how I felt watching the Halo demo. Gameplay looks basically the same as all the other Halo games I've played and seen, which looks basically the same as pretty much every other 1st person shooter game.

So, gameplay wise, Halo didn't really impress me there. And then you add in the iffy looking character models, the pop-ins, and the poor texture on some of the environment, and that was NOT a good way to showcase your next-gen console. Because it certainly doesn't look next-gen.

Especially when you do compare it to the Unreal 5 tech demo, Ratchet and Clank, and Horizon Forbidden West.

In fact, nothing shown at the Xbox event really screamed next-gen or a reason to buy the Series X. The only thing that showcased the SSD was The Medium, with the whole 2 worlds concept. But even with that, I don't think the graphics are exactly next-gen looking. But, The Medium is like the only near-term Xbox game that I'm interested in, and then they label it as "console launch exclusive" which suggests it will come to PS5 later on. So, if it does, I'll just wait to play it on PS5.

Speaking of the May Xbox event, in hindsight, I think it was a mistake for Xbox to hold 2 events. It feels like they ended up "diluting" both events with average-mediocre showings. This July event, imo, would have been more impactful if it was the first time seeing games like The Medium, Scarlett Nexus, Scorn, Chorus, and Bright Memory Infinite (which looked more next-gen than Halo Infinite).

 

[psylockolussus]

I'm not sure why Xbox has to do these livestreams every 1 to 2 months. I understand they are promoting things and there's an upcoming console. But these "hyped" livestreams are more like a letdown (unless you are a big Xbox fan and really into first person games). I also doubt its helping the sales/interest for the indie or smaller games as the bigger games tend to overshadow them.1/3 of the livestream was for Halo which didn't even look graphically great. While the big games, could just host their own livestream. The only improvement I noticed from the Xbox's July livestream was the guest speakers weren't directly talking infront of their webcam unlike in the previous Livestream.

As for Sony, they don't also need to do bi-monthly live streams unless they have something big to reveal and they did reveal Horizon 2, Village, Miles Morales, Hitman 3, Bluepoint's next remake game, Rachet & Clank, Ragdoll, Gran Turismo, a couple of new ips and the look of their new console. And most of those games didn't merely play a 30 second teaser.

Not only Sony has the momentum from the ps4, but they are also really playing their cards better than Xbox for their upcoming console. I eXpect the next livestreamfrom Sony to reveal its launch date/price. I don't eXpect Sony to further reveal new games, but can you imagine if God of War vs God of Thunder and GTA VIce City are announced for their next livestream. The internet would eXplode in eXcitement.