"The Politicking of Food"?

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They criticize claims of safety as unscientific, then turn around and present a study with unsound methodology. They also blatantly conflate correlation with causation. This article is garbage.

Most of the people who rally against GMO's don't really seem to understand the biological or technological principles underlying their creation and implementation, in my experience.

How did I know you were going to be the first one to respond. I'm starting to think you own stock in or work for Monsanto at times with how often you defend them.

 

[Feenix]

Natural news is a bunch of bull. You should read their articles about vaccines. They're so full of it.

 

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Natural news is a bunch of bull. You should read their articles about vaccines. They're so full of it.

Doesn't change the fact that Monsanto has no way of really knowing what the possible long term effects on the human body are with GM foods.

 

[Doctor Evo]

How did I know you were going to be the first one to respond. I'm starting to think you own stock in or work for Monsanto at times with how often you defend them.

When have I ever defended Monsanto? Monsanto is a borderline evil corporation, and I rarely use that word. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm really sorry that you can't recognize bad science when you see it.

 

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When have I ever defended Monsanto? Monsanto is a borderline evil corporation, and I rarely use that word. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm really sorry that you can't recognize bad science when you see it.

Forgive me Doctor. I mistook you for another poster that I've gone at it with in the past then.

I guess it had to do with Monsanto being behind a lot of GM foods as well.

I can't recognize bad science? When they're doing tests on lab rats, and rats have been a strong and faitful use for scientists and researchers to test things over the decades, I don't instantly believe the results but I do take them into consideration. When I posted that article I should have clarified that I didn't find their research to be facts but it's something to talk about and look into is all.

 

[Doctor Evo]

When they're doing tests on lab rats, and rats have been a strong and faitful use for scientists and researchers to test things over the decades, I don't instantly believe the results but I do take them into consideration. When I posted that article I should have clarified that I didn't find their research to be facts but it's something to talk about and look into is all.

The article was formally retracted a year after its publication due to a number of criticisms regarding its methodology. For a detailed treatment, see Jany (2013):

Jany, K. (2013). Critical remarks on the long-term feeding study by Seralini et al. (2012). European Food and Feed Law Review 8(3): 176-186.

 

[Anita18]

Methodology is a tricky thing. Something you thought you controlled for can be found later to have been a variable. The more we learn, especially about molecular biology and other things that are not "obvious", the more we realize it's all way more complicated than we originally thought.

 

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The article was formally retracted a year after its publication due to a number of criticisms regarding its methodology. For a detailed treatment, see Jany (2013):

Jany, K. (2013). Critical remarks on the long-term feeding study by Seralini et al. (2012). European Food and Feed Law Review 8(3): 176-186.

Thanks for the info. That's not sarcasm by the way, I mean that.

 

[Doctor Evo]

Methodology is a tricky thing. Something you thought you controlled for can be found later to have been a variable. The more we learn, especially about molecular biology and other things that are not "obvious", the more we realize it's all way more complicated than we originally thought.

Very true. According to the couple of articles I've read criticizing this study, however, the issues should have been accounted for up-front. I get the impression that this guy was stacking the deck a little bit.

Thanks for the info. That's not sarcasm by the way, I mean that.

It's all good man, I didn't take it as sarcasm.

 

[Doctor Evo]

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/collideascape/2014/01/02/need-move-beyond-facts-gmo-debate/
Pretty interesting article concerning the nature of pre-conceived bias in the face of contradictory data.