The Rush Limbaugh Thread

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no, don;t ge t me wrong, this isn't a comment on him, if people that listen to him can separate the fact that he makes comments about the "elite" all the time, and the fact that he has been a hypocrite on things like drug use and other things, plus the fact that he ignorantly made fun a Parkinson's disease victim?
meh, that just means people are THAT stupid and mean, that's what I meant by "people are weird" for instance Don Imus, I don't think that he should've lost his job or sponsors, or michael savage, let the people that listen to them and nod, let those people recognize what THEY are, and let all these cats stay on the air for a long as the people want them.

...and he gave Dennis Miller a run for "worst MNF addition." The fall of Dennis Miller from equal opportunity satirist to nearly partisan hack saddens me as well. This thread is depressing, I'm going to look at the Bond thread.
 
Aaaaaaahhhhh, thanks. In that case, I'm sad to be part of a country that rewards his level of mediocrity when it comes to thought. I don't begrudge him his paycheck as he very obviously earns it. This news just saddens me on a deep level for my country. Much like the success of Soulja Boy.

:lmao: I nearly spit water out my nose reading your Rush to Soulja Boy comparison. :funny:

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Aaaaaaahhhhh, thanks. In that case, I'm sad to be part of a country that rewards his level of mediocrity when it comes to thought. I don't begrudge him his paycheck as he very obviously earns it. This news just saddens me on a deep level for my country. Much like the success of Soulja Boy.

Most of the things that are popular in this country are the exact opposite of aquired tastes. People who like them need to aquire some taste.
 
Most of the things that are popular in this country are the exact opposite of aquired tastes. People who like them need to aquire some taste.

I think the idea that you believe your tastes are more or less valid than someone else's is tasteless.
 
I think the idea that you believe your tastes are more or less valid than someone else's is tasteless.

I agree that everyone's shared interests, thoughts, and preferences are their own, but to be fair, to "Superman dat ho!" doesn't involve a lot of taste.
 
I doubt he'll live long enough to collect all that money. He has "heart attack" written all over him.
 
really? 400 million for a guy that mocked a Parkinson's disease sufferer?
wow, people are weird.

Or referred to 12-year-old Chelsea Clinton as the "White House Dog" back when he had his old TV show. I don't care what anyone thinks of Clinton or his family, doing that to any 12-year-old is immature and vile.

The man is a hypocrite and a pig. I can't people actually still listen to him. :whatever:
 
This makes me sad and scared for my country.
 
First Off, this Thread is Mod endorsed.

I think all the talk in two or three different threads about Rush Limbaugh is too much, it is taking the Obama Thread off course, and the Future of the Republican Party off course. Sorry, but Limbaugh has little to do with both those things. So, here, I present to you, "DISCUSSION: Rush Limbaugh" Thread.
 
The Tired War on Rush Limbaugh
by Jonah Goldberg

Here we go again. Rush Limbaugh is public enemy No. 1.

Liberal bloggers and media chin-strokers are aghast at Limbaugh's statement that he hopes Barack Obama fails.


Well, given what Obama wants to do, I hope he fails too. Of course I want the financial crisis to end -- who doesn't? But Obama's agenda is much more audacious. Pretty much every major news outlet in the country has said as a matter of objective analysis that Obama wants to repeal the legacy of Ronald Reagan and remake the country as a European welfare state. And yet people are shocked that conservatives, Limbaugh included, want Obama to fail in this effort?

What movie have they been watching? Because I could swear that opposing the expansion of big government is what conservatives do. It's Aesopian. The scorpion must sting the frog. The conservative must object to socialized medicine.

Besides, since when did hoping for the failure of ideological agendas you disagree with become unpatriotic? Liberals were hardly treasonous when they hoped for the failure of George W. Bush's Social Security privatization scheme.

Regardless, the war on Limbaugh from the left is a tired rehash. In 1995, Bill Clinton tried to blame the Oklahoma City bombing on Rush. In 2002, then-Sen. Tom Daschle, the leader of the Democratic opposition, claimed that Limbaugh's listeners weren't "satisfied just to listen." They were a violent threat to decent public servants like him.

In just the last month, Obama suggested that Republicans were in thrall to Rush. White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has anointed him the GOP's leader. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., complained that Republicans didn't give Obama enough standing ovations during his recent address to Congress because they are afraid of Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

Does anyone really think that Republicans, absent fear of Limbaugh's lash, would be throwing flower petals at Obama's feet as he sells the Great Society II? If that's true, I say thank goodness for Limbaugh's lash.

Just because the Democrats' shtick is old and often dishonest doesn't mean it's tactically dumb. Limbaugh and other right-wing talkers are popular with a third of the country. Fairly or not, they turn off moderates and self-described independents (and, for the left, conservative talk radio is the font of all evil). Most politicians would prefer to have 70 percent of the public on their side at the cost of losing 30 percent, even if that requires being less than fair to the 30 percent.

The more interesting war on Limbaugh comes from the right. My National Review colleague John Derbyshire has written a thoughtful article for the American Conservative disparaging the "lowbrow conservatism" of talk radio. His brush is a bit too broad at times. Some right-wing talkers, such as Bill Bennett and Dennis Prager, can be almost professorial. Michael Savage, meanwhile, sounds like the orderlies are about to break through the barricaded studio door with sedatives in hand. Derbyshire is nonetheless right that conservatism is top-heavy with talk-radio talent, sometimes giving the impression the right is deficient in other areas and adding to the shrillness of public discourse.

Another point of attack comes from "reformist" conservative writers, such as blogger Ross Douthat of The Atlantic and former Bush speechwriter David Frum. They argue that conservatism is too attached to talk-show platitudes and Reagan kitsch. They want conservatives and Republicans to become more entrepreneurial, less reflexively opposed to government action. Hence, the New Reformers object to Limbaugh's role as an enforcer of ideological conformity. What's good for Limbaugh, many of them argue, guarantees that the GOP will become a powerless rump party only for conservative true believers.

I'm dubious about that, but I do have a suggestion that would help on both fronts. Bring back "Firing Line." William F. Buckley Jr., who died almost a year ago, hosted the program for PBS for 33 years. He performed an incalculable service at a time when conservatives were more associated with yahoos than they are today. He demonstrated that intellectual fluency and good manners weren't uniquely liberal qualities. More important, the "Firing Line" debates (models of decorum) demonstrated that conservatives were unafraid to examine their own assumptions or to battle liberal ones.

As Democrats try to ram through the "remaking of America" (Obama's words) by exploiting a financial crisis, we need those debates. PBS could actually live up to its mandate to educate and inform the public. It would be the kind of entrepreneurial government innovation even right-wingers could get behind.
 
Somebody might want to tell Jonah the war is not actually on Rush, but on Republicans in office, by making them seem weak and beholden to Rush. They are, in fact knowingly propping up Rush, at the expense of office Republicans. I dunno how he misses this basic strategic point. It's meant to be a sort of trap, either distance yourself from Rush and piss off right wingers (Steele did that), or go grovelling back to him and look like a subordinate (err, Steele did that too - not exactly a master strategist, is he?). There's no doubt Steele did his image no favors with the whole debacle.
i imagine as long as Rush still has astronomically low favorability ratings on the under-40 demographic, they'll probably keep pushing it, though the message has pretty much reached saturation at this point imo. Another day or two and it's about time to let up I think.
 
Rush is a piece of garbage.

Truer words were never spoken.
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Rush is an ass.
But an effective ass.

I love the attention on Limbaugh because everyone benefits.

Limbaugh benefits because of the ratings due to increased attention.

Obama and the Democrats benefit because they have successfully made Rush the face of the Republican Party in 2009.

The Republicans, while not necessarily benefiting, are uninjured simply because there potential success in 2010 and probably 2012 will be a reflection of Obama and his Congress - not the GOP's success in broadening its coalition.
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The only thing, Republicans might actually learn something about Conservativism and vote they way they should.
 
The only thing, Republicans might actually learn something about Conservativism and vote they way they should.

How? How is Rush a "real conservative"? Wasn't he for big government a few years ago, wasn't he ok with the government spying on people and wasn't he Bush's cheer leader, even Bush was increasing the size of government? He doesn't seem to believe in personal responsibility, because he never seems to admit his mistakes (making fun of Michael J. Fox, his own drug use, etc) Besides isn't he a social conservative and thus believes in big government to further conservative social causes?

It seems like Rush represents everything that is wrong with the GOP. I wouldn't have a problem with Rush if everyone just treated him like an entertainer, but they don't, a lot of people treat him as if he were the next Plato. I like Jon Stewart as a entertainer, but I wouldn't book him as the guest speaker at a Dem convention.
 
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How? How is Rush a "real conservative"? Wasn't he for big government a few years ago, wasn't he ok with the government spying on people and wasn't he Bush's cheer leader, even Bush was increasing the size of government? He doesn't seem to believe in personal responsibility, because he never seems to admit his mistakes (making fun of Michael J. Fox, his own drug use, etc) Besides isn't he a social conservative and thus believes in big government to further conservative social causes?

It seems like Rush represents everything that is wrong with the GOP. I wouldn't have a problem with Rush if everyone just treated him like an entertainer, but they don't, a lot of people treat him as if he were the next Plato. I like Jon Stewart as a entertainer, but I wouldn't book him as the guest speaker at a Dem convention.

You've never actually listened to him have you?

Didn't think so
 
No, he doesn't listen to him. He's from Canada, and Canada doesn't have Internet radio.
 
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