The Rush Limbaugh Thread

[Heretic]

Limbaugh is not to blame for the fall of the GOP. If the GOP followed Limbaugh's ideology, they would have been more successful in the last two elections than they were - and that's a fact.

Limbaugh's ideology changes to protect the Republican party line. He rarely sets the agenda...he just supports whatever the republicans are doing, with very few exceptions.

 

[StorminNorman]

Limbaugh's ideology changes to protect the Republican party line. He rarely sets the agenda...he just supports whatever the republicans are doing, with very few exceptions.

That explains his enthusiastic support of John McCain then

The fact is that simply isn't true. It's complete garbage.

Limbaugh has maintained conservative principals. He bashed Republicans for their immigration policies, he has attacked Republicans for spending. It was these two issues that kept Limbaugh-like GOP voters away from the polls (and, almost as important, away from campaigns - donations went down, volunteers went down).

If the Republican Party listened to Limbaugh in 2006 and 2008, the GOP would have received more votes than they did.

 

[Heretic]

That explains his enthusiastic support of John McCain then

The fact is that simply isn't true. It's complete garbage.

Limbaugh has maintained conservative principals. He bashed Republicans for their immigration policies, he has attacked Republicans for spending. It was these two issues that kept Limbaugh-like GOP voters away from the polls (and, almost as important, away from campaigns - donations went down, volunteers went down).

If the Republican Party listened to Limbaugh in 2006 and 2008, the GOP would have received more votes than they did.

I stopped listening to Limbaugh a few years ago because I got really bored of him siding with bush no matter how liberal Bush's policies were. Occasionally hed grumble, but hed always come home to support the Republicans...and I bet he supported McCain once he got the nomination!

But as far as going against republicans in the past year or so...maybe he has...I dont listen to him. The entire left/right thing bores me now because I believe that they are two sides of the same agenda

 

[Marx]

ROVE SIDES WITH LIMBAUGH
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/24/rove-sides-with-limbaugh/

In the ongoing war of words between Rush Limbaugh and Colin Powell, top Bush strategist Karl Rove is siding with the popular talk radio host.

Appearing on Fox News Sunday, Rove said Limbaugh would edge out the former secretary of state if he "had to pick between the two."

Rove's comments come after a back-and-forth between Limbaugh and Powell, during which both have charged the other is hurting the GOP's chances of success in the future.

Discussing divisions over the direction of the party in the wake of its losses in the 2006 midterm elections and 2008 presidential election, Powell said the party should expand its base.

"I have always felt that the Republican Party should be more inclusive than it generally has been over the years and I believe that we need a strong Republican Party that is not just anchored in the base but has built on the base to include more individuals," he told "Face the Nation."

Ultimately, Rove said, the debate between Limbaugh and Powell is a "false" one because neither is a candidate for public office.

"The real debate takes place out there in the real world by people getting out there and encouraging the kind of candidates who represent their vision for the party," Rove said.

 

[Wiseman]

I think the only people who really think Rush is ever going to run for office are liberals. If he was ever going to, it would've been in the 90's. He loves what he does, he makes a fortune doing it. And he ratchets up the attacks on liberals for ratings and controversy. I highly doubt he really believes the outlandish stuff he says, it's all for ratings and money. And it works, his name is always in the news because liberals would much rather attack him then deal with the real issues. Rush doesn't care about politics, he cares about money and attention. It's gotten pretty ridiculous how he's become the poster boy for republicans because of the media. He's an entertainer, nothing more, and even though I can't stand listening to his show, he obviously is good at what he does to get this many liberals attacking him on a daily basis like he's relevant

 

[StorminNorman]

I stopped listening to Limbaugh a few years ago because I got really bored of him siding with bush no matter how liberal Bush's policies were. Occasionally hed grumble, but hed always come home to support the Republicans...and I bet he supported McCain once he got the nomination!

And you would be wrong.

But as far as going against republicans in the past year or so...maybe he has...I dont listen to him. The entire left/right thing bores me now because I believe that they are two sides of the same agenda

And there is nothing wrong with that belief. But if you haven't listened to Rush in years...how valid are your complaints of him?

 

[Heretic]

And you would be wrong.



And there is nothing wrong with that belief. But if you haven't listened to Rush in years...how valid are your complaints of him?

Are you telling me that Rush endorsed neither McCain or Obama??? I find it VERY hard to believe that his program did not go after Obama HARD leading up to the election.

And my complaints against Rush work because thats why i stopped listening. If I recall, I stopped around primary time...and I do seem to recall him being kind of more for that Mormon that looks like the newscaster from the Muppets rather than McCain.

 

[StorminNorman]

Are you telling me that Rush endorsed neither McCain or Obama??? I find it VERY hard to believe that his program did not go after Obama HARD leading up to the election.

And my complaints against Rush work because thats why i stopped listening. If I recall, I stopped around primary time...and I do seem to recall him being kind of more for that Mormon that looks like the newscaster from the Muppets rather than McCain.

He criticized McCain hard during the election. He bashed him constantly. Did he support Obama? No. Did he consider McCain to be worse than Obama? No. But did he support McCain? Did he fall behind the line and trumpet his cause? No. Absolutely not.

 

[The Overlord]

That explains his enthusiastic support of John McCain then

The fact is that simply isn't true. It's complete garbage.

Limbaugh has maintained conservative principals. He bashed Republicans for their immigration policies, he has attacked Republicans for spending. It was these two issues that kept Limbaugh-like GOP voters away from the polls (and, almost as important, away from campaigns - donations went down, volunteers went down).

If the Republican Party listened to Limbaugh in 2006 and 2008, the GOP would have received more votes than they did.

But Rush admited he was "carrying water" for the GOP back in 2006 and if McCain is a moderate and Rush criticize him and Bush wasn't and Rush carried water for him, doesn't that just mean Rush doesn't like the moderate wing of the GOP?

Besides if they listed to Rush wouldn't they still be hard right on social issues? Isn't Rush very much a social conservative? It seems like he is just as a contradictory as Bush and the GOP is.

Plus Rush never applies these rules to himself, he says he believes personal responsiblity, but when he makes a makes a mistake, like his statements on Parkinsons disease, he doesn't admit it. He called for harsh punishments for drug users, then he uses his money to get off drug charges.

Rush's statements on Parkinsons make him a vile person, that should be obvious regardless of politics, making fun of Parkinson's disease is not a left or right wing issue, its just a matter of common decency. Even David Frum is criticial of him and Frum is no liberal. If Michael Moore or Noam Chomsky said the same thngs about Parkinsons disease, they would get the same criticism.

Rush comes off as a media ****e who is popular because he panders people's negative sides. Frankly I think he has no worth as a politcal pundit, he is the McDonalds of politics, for those too lazy to actual read important political texts. If you are conservative you should read Edmund Bruke, not listen to Rush. Rush is nothing more then infotainment, I loathe infotainment.

If Rush just is an entertainter like people says he is, why does the GOP give him this much power. Jon Stewart is a liberal entertainer, you don't see the Dems having him speak at conventions.

 

[Heretic]

But Rush admited he was "carrying water" for the GOP back in 2006 and if McCain is a moderate and Rush criticize him and Bush wasn't and Rush carried water for him, doesn't that just mean Rush doesn't like the moderate wing of the GOP?

Besides if they listed to Rush wouldn't they still be hard right on social issues? Isn't Rush very much a social conservative? It seems like he is just as a contradictory as Bush and the GOP is.

Plus Rush never applies these rules to himself, he says he believes personal responsiblity, but when he makes a makes a mistake, like his statements on Parkinsons disease, he doesn't admit it. He called for harsh punishments for drug users, then he uses his money to get off drug charges.

Rush's statements on Parkinsons make him a vile person, that should be obvious regardless of politics, making fun of Parkinson's disease is not a left or right wing issue, its just a matter of common decency. Even David Frum is criticial of him and Frum is no liberal. If Michael Moore or Noam Chomsky said the same thngs about Parkinsons disease, they would get the same criticism.

Rush comes off as a media ****e who is popular because he panders people's negative sides. Frankly I think he has no worth as a politcal pundit, he is the McDonalds of politics, for those too lazy to actual read important political texts. If you are conservative you should read Edmund Bruke, not listen to Rush. Rush is nothing more then infotainment, I loathe infotainment.

You loathe infotainment? Son, you havent lived til youve spent a half hour in front of a Billy Mays commercial!

But yeah...anyone who takes Rush seriously is a dolt who wants to pretend that they know politics. As you mentioned, he admitted to carrying water for the republicans and going against his personal beliefs to protect them.

 

[StorminNorman]

And I am saying that this entire discussion is ridiculous and pointless.

Rush Limbaugh is not going anywhere.

Rush Limbaugh is successful.

Rush Limbaugh is conservative.

Rush Limbaugh pisses people off.

What more can you say about the subject?

 

[Heretic]

There are thousands of pointless thread at this site...and you chose this one to rant about nuke tests??

Rush is an important figure on the political landscape and should be discussed. as the ONLY Republican with a following (seemingly) he is to be watched to see where the party may be heading.

He's also a blowhard that wasnt at all Conservative when he was defending Bush for 8 years and its fun seeing him squirm because even his own people dont like him (though clearly he has his listeners...Im not going to deny his success)

 

[The Overlord]

North Korea just tested a nuke, Iran is sending war ships into international waters and you want to talk about Rush Limbaugh?

Yeah, because its the Rush Limbaugh thread and those things would be off topic. If you don't want to talk about Rush, why are you on this thread? Why are you criticizing me for talking about Rush Limbaugh, on the Rush Limbaugh thread, do you realize how silly that is?

 

[StorminNorman]

Rush is not an important figure on the political landscape, he is a scape goat. He is an easy target. He is a radio host. He is an entertainer.

He is not the only Republican with a following, he is not the only Conservative with a following.

Again, the dude is an entertainer. The only reason we are discussing him so much right now is because James Carville figured out Limbaugh can be used as a weapon against Democrats. The White House caught on. Democrats caught on. It's all a planned Democrat election tactic.

 

[The Overlord]

Rush is not an important figure on the political landscape, he is a scape goat. He is an easy target. He is a radio host. He is an entertainer.

He is not the only Republican with a following, he is not the only Conservative with a following.

Again, the dude is an entertainer. The only reason we are discussing him so much right now is because James Carville figured out Limbaugh can be used as a weapon against Democrats. The White House caught on. Democrats caught on. It's all a planned Democrat election tactic.

That would be true, if it weren't for the fact that the GOP has him speak at conventions and give him a lot of power, if he is a target its their fault. If Jon Stewart spoke at Democratic conventions, it would be open season on him. Michael Moore is a "entertainter" but converstives still go after him. If Rush didn't speak at these conventions, he would be way less of a target. Rush is a public figure, so he is going to get criticism. If the GOP didn't give him so much influnece, I would care less about this about talentless ass clown.

Again its the Rush Limbaugh thread, why shouldn't people discuss Rush Limbaugh, on the Rush Limbaugh thread? There already threads on those other things you mentioned.

 

[Heretic]

wasnt Rush the keynote speaker at CPAC, which Fox news showed live and reran over and over and over again??? I recall the chants from the crowd begging him to run for president.

He is more than an entertainer to his crowd...so you cant expect the liberals to not go after him and make him a focal point.

 

[dnno1]

You think he would lose some weight if he did this enough.

 

[StorminNorman]

That would be true, if it weren't for the fact that the GOP has him speak at conventions and give him a lot of power, if he is a target its their fault. If Jon Stewart spoke at Democratic conventions, it would be open season on him.

CPAC isn't a Republican event, it's an event put on by the American Conservative Union.

Michael Moore is a "entertainter" but converstives still go after him.

Show me where the White House talked about Michael Moore being the leader of the Democrat Party under Bush? Or where any Republican leaders were calling Michael Moore the head of the Democrat Party?

If Rush didn't speak at these conventions, he would be way less of a target. Rush is a public figure, so he is going to get criticism. If the GOP didn't give him so much influnece, I would care less about this about talentless ass clown.

Yes, the GOP really gave him sooo much influence. That's why his candidate was the Republican nominee.

Again its the Rush Limbaugh thread, why shouldn't people discuss Rush Limbaugh, on the Rush Limbaugh thread? There already threads on those other things you mentioned.

But there are not as many threads as useless as this one. Again, why are we discussing a radio entertainer and not discussing important events? Real issues? What's the point? Do you not see how absurd this is?

 

[Addendum]

But there are not as many threads as useless as this one. Again, why are we discussing a radio entertainer and not discussing important events? Real issues? What's the point? Do you not see how absurd this is?

People will discuss whatever they want to discuss. Forcing people to discuss something that you consider important or real is a waste of time.

 

[dnno1]

That would be true, if it weren't for the fact that the GOP has him speak at conventions and give him a lot of power, if he is a target its their fault. If Jon Stewart spoke at Democratic conventions, it would be open season on him. Michael Moore is a "entertainter" but converstives still go after him. If Rush didn't speak at these conventions, he would be way less of a target. Rush is a public figure, so he is going to get criticism. If the GOP didn't give him so much influnece, I would care less about this about talentless ass clown.

Again its the Rush Limbaugh thread, why shouldn't people discuss Rush Limbaugh, on the Rush Limbaugh thread? There already threads on those other things you mentioned.

CPAC isn't a Republican event, it's an event put on by the American Conservative Union.



Show me where the White House talked about Michael Moore being the leader of the Democrat Party under Bush? Or where any Republican leaders were calling Michael Moore the head of the Democrat Party?



Yes, the GOP really gave him sooo much influence. That's why his candidate was the Republican nominee.



But there are not as many threads as useless as this one. Again, why are we discussing a radio entertainer and not discussing important events? Real issues? What's the point? Do you not see how absurd this is?

In truth, Rush speaks to the GOP base 5 times a week. He doesn't need to speak at GOP conventions since he should have gotten or can get the message across on his radio show.

 

[StorminNorman]

Keith Olbermann speaks the Democratic base 5 times a week.

Shepard Smith speaks to the Republican base 5 times a week.

That really doesn't mean anything.

 

[Heretic]

Shepard Smith speaks to everyone 5 times a week...the ratings are too high to simply be republicans. If ratings meant anything then John McCain would have won in a landslide.

 

[StorminNorman]

Shepard Smith speaks to everyone 5 times a week...the ratings are too high to simply be republicans. If ratings meant anything then John McCain would have won in a landslide.

But Limbaugh's ratings are better than Shepard Smith's...

 

[Heretic]

But Limbaugh's ratings are better than Shepard Smith's...

Wait, does FrankenShep have a radio show?

I find it hard to believe that Rush has more listeners than Fox News has viewers.

 

[The Overlord]

Keith Olbermann speaks the Democratic base 5 times a week.

Shepard Smith speaks to the Republican base 5 times a week.

That really doesn't mean anything.

At offical conventions? Do either of those two speak at offical conventions?