The three above all.

[UK_Stu]

"Pre ret-con Beyonder"? What have they changed about the Beyonder?

I wondered the same thing, I only know the beyonder - when was he retconned?

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Not long after the SWII when he owned L.T.

 

[UK_Stu]

Do you have examples of issues?

 

[torkibe]

The pre retconned Beyonder was by far the most powerful. He stated that the MU was to him as a drop of water was to the ocean. He was far above and beyond God. I believe that even the cosmic beings said that he was supreme. Eternity using a huge chunk of the Beyonders own captured energy was going to sacrifice a third of himself to try to destroy the Beyonder.

Nope. He was vastly powerful, but it was later revealed that he wasn't as powerful as we thought he was. Maybe retcon is too strong of a word, really more of a reveal. You can read about most of it here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beyonder

But, whether or not you believe in any one particular God (Christian, Muslim, Jewish) the concept of an Amighty God means just that, he (or she) is almighty. NOTHING is above and beyond that. Certainly not the Beyonder. He is the creator and ruler of ALL existance. In "The End" Thanos alludes to the fact that God must have been tired of being God, so he tricked Thanos into taking over. Therefore, Thanos became God.

Have you read the end Marvel series?

Explain why he allways says universe insteed of multiverse.

Yes, I read it. "Universe" and "Multiverse" are really interchangeable terms depending on the writer using them. In the case of "The End" Thanos means it in the all encompassing sense of the word. "Multiverse" is a term the writers use when they want to express to the reader that our concept of the "Universe" isn't all that's out there. It's really just semantics.

 

[venom62]

Have you read the end Marvel series?

Explain why he allways says universe insteed of multiverse.

http://img197.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marveluniversetheend1p02hgwell.jpg

http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theend0612tato7qy.jpg

http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theend0618tato4hd.jpg

http://img279.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theend0621tato3yo.jpg

I'm just starting to get back into comics again after a ten year gap. I loved all the cosmic storylines. Please help me out with a couple of things:
1. What books are these images from?
2. What books did Thanos get the heart of the universe?
3. Where can I find the arc of the brothers and the DC/Marvel Crossover? Is it a novel or TPB yet?

Thanks, any info is greatly appreciated.

 

[torkibe]

I'm just starting to get back into comics again after a ten year gap. I loved all the cosmic storylines. Please help me out with a couple of things:
1. What books are these images from?
2. What books did Thanos get the heart of the universe?
3. Where can I find the arc of the brothers and the DC/Marvel Crossover? Is it a novel or TPB yet?

Thanks, any info is greatly appreciated.

1.The images are from "Marvel: The End". You can get a trade, or you can probably find the whole 6 issue arc on ebay.

2. See Above.

3. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1852867507/sr=8-1/qid=1151593492/ref=sr_1_1/002-4151956-8914413?ie=UTF8

 

[venom62]

1.The images are from "Marvel: The End". You can get a trade, or you can probably find the whole 6 issue arc on ebay.

2. See Above.

3. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1852867507/sr=8-1/qid=1151593492/ref=sr_1_1/002-4151956-8914413?ie=UTF8

Thank you. It sucks playing catch up!

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Nope. He was vastly powerful, but it was later revealed that he wasn't as powerful as we thought he was. Maybe retcon is too strong of a word, really more of a reveal. You can read about most of it here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beyonder

But, whether or not you believe in any one particular God (Christian, Muslim, Jewish) the concept of an Amighty God means just that, he (or she) is almighty. NOTHING is above and beyond that. Certainly not the Beyonder. He is the creator and ruler of ALL existance. In "The End" Thanos alludes to the fact that God must have been tired of being God, so he tricked Thanos into taking over. Therefore, Thanos became God.



Yes, I read it. "Universe" and "Multiverse" are really interchangeable terms depending on the writer using them. In the case of "The End" Thanos means it in the all encompassing sense of the word. "Multiverse" is a term the writers use when they want to express to the reader that our concept of the "Universe" isn't all that's out there. It's really just semantics.

Actually Classic Beyonder wsa more powerfull than any other comic character since he had:

1, Possess the power of the comic book writers- Stan Lee himself said that Classic Beyonder was supposed to represent the power the Writers had over the characters, the universes, the reality itself, etc. The ability to create and erase or change the "story" to any way he wants it to be.

2, Has endless of times the power of the Marvel Multiverse- Does this need any further explanations?

3, Has Infinite Reality Warping Ability- more flexible than IG or even HOTU.

4, Has the Absolute Ability to VIOLATE multiverses- thier laws, thier concepts, thier order.... Means NOTHING to Classic Beyonder. The Presence, TOAA..... There laws and power means nothing to Classic Beyonder, who is the embodyment of Absolute Power itself.

When TOAA just have the power of one multiverse, Beyonder had the power the Marvel Multiverses and all that was beyond.

He would be able to turn TOAA, Presence, Thanos w/ HotU, The Great Evil Beast and the pre-retconded Amalgam brother's into toilet paper.