whatever his people told him to say the description above is not tim burtons movie. there is nothing spycological or deep in those movies. i quote he was enamored with how some characters were animals thought it was ver UNIQUE. Burton is trash. AND THERE WAS NO TRACE NOT EVEN A HINT OF MILLER IN THOSE MOVIES. He was told miller is hot or if he read miller he simply didnt understand a thing i think he justlikes dark creepy stuff without any thought behind it.
There is thought behind everything in Tim Burton's Bat-films. There is nothing "spycological", but the Tim Burton Bat-films are psychological and captured the psychological profile of Batman. He has a dark, grim, obsessive nature. He certainly has childhood trauma, abandonment issues over has parents murder, he's obsessive compulsive, he's angry. His parents were murdered and he has dedicated himself to warring on crime for the rest of his life. The death of a loved one, particularly both your parents murdered right in front of you, is very painful. His war on crime prevents him from having very meaningful relationships with women so he is a lonely man in that regard as well. He has rocky relationships with women. The affection he undeniably felt for Vicki Vale, a beautiful, talented woman engaged in a socially acceptable field of endeavor (photo journalism), has been rendered all but insignificant by the infinitely more erotic allure of Catwoman, a villainess. He wears a bat costume to strike terror in criminals hearts. Bruce dresses up as a bat to create fear. The character is intrinsically a character who strikes fear and terror in his enemies. He is mysterious. That's all there in Burton's Batman films. I loved the opening scene on the roof top. I still love that scene with the two thugs on the roof. "Let's get outa here. I don't like it out here -- not after what happened to Johnny Gobbs." "Hey, Johnny Gobbs got ripped and took a walk off a roof. No big loss." "That ain't what I heard. I heard that The Bat got him." Batman shouldn't allow himself to be seen much in the comics or on film -- he should stick to the shadows. He loses a great deal of his effectiveness once criminals realize he's a man. He needs to make a bunch of thugs with guns piss in their pants. The whole point of becoming Batman is to create that edge -- he's some sort of demonic bat creature. The opening scene on the roof top in Burton's first Bat-film captured that very well. Batman needs to maintain a degree of mystery. There is fear in the unknown and Batman wants criminals to fear him. And, after all, that is what Batman tries to do by lurking in the shadows. Using exploding gas pellets to make himself appear and disappear and so on, as he does in Tim Burton's Batman film at the Chemical Plant.
With Batman Returns Tim Burton was enamored with how Batman, Catwoman and the Penguin are sort of animal people and Tim Burton used the animal motif as a strong theme for the film. Animalistic primal instincts. After all, Batman is a nocturnal "creature of the night", as Bill Finger called him, in Batman's origin in the comics he even said "I shall become a bat", and bats are nocturnal animals and Batman spends a lot of time in a cave, dresses like a bat and frightens people as bats frighten people. There are a lot of similarities between Catwoman and cats. Catwoman is nocturnal and cats are nocturnal animals and she is playful and she does whatever she wants and she is unpredictable and moody and impulsive as cats are and she of course dresses like a cat. The Penguin has a huge beak and waddles like a penguin and squawks like a penguin. "Everyone forgets that we're still basically animals," said Tim Burton.
Frank Miller's Batman material influenced Tim Burton's version. As in Miller's Batman comics, Batman is a very dark, grim, ruthless and brutal vigilante in Burton's Batman films. Batman is also a very controversial figure to Gotham citizens in Burton's Batman films, as in Miller's Batman comics. As Sam Hamm says, there are "literal swipes from Dark Knight -- the notion that he wears the emblem on his chest as a target, essentially, because he's trying to draw fire away from his head. There are a couple of other bits like that. The body armor stuff is one of the snatches from Dark Knight. When you sit down and try to work out the grit, the nuts and bolts of how the guy does what he does, you have to ask questions -- why doesn't he get shot. Frank Miller's solution seemed like the most logical one." Batman's spear gun is obviously influenced by Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns. Even Catwoman's costume in Batman Returns, which is a full bodysuit with cat-cowl and gloves with claws on them, is essentially a black rubber version of the Catwoman costume in Frank Miller's Year One, just without the tail (the whip represented the tail in Batman Returns. It was a euphemism for her tail.), and with high-heel boots and stitching. The stitching represents her patchwork fragmentation of her character. There is thought behind everything.
Also, Frank Miller himself said when asked:
iF MAGAZINE: Did you like the Tim Burton films at all?
MILLER: I liked the first one. I liked Michael Keaton. I don’t know how much I saw of the other ones. I know I had to tune in to see Michelle Pfeiffer play Catwoman because she’s Michelle Pfeiffer and she was playing Catwoman. How many fantasies of mine can collide at the same time? I just generally didn’t like the tone of the other movies. I didn’t agree with it.
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