this general trend of part 1 & 2 of films

[jmc]

The problem you're always going to have is in creating two stories out of one. It's difficult if not impossible to do unless you're dealing with something 100% original.

 

[Lord]

The problem you're always going to have is in creating two stories out of one. It's difficult if not impossible to do unless you're dealing with something 100% original.

I would argue that if better Directed, DH Part 2 could have felt more stand alone than it was, they certainly had enough to work with, and to be honest, they decided to simply make it acceptable, it's even made clear by them keeping that awful 20 years later epilogue, i think something set right after the battle as everyone is faced with the aftermath of the war and wonder what lies ahead of them would have been a much better choice to end the film series.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I dunno how many of you guys follow jeremy jahns, but he's under the impression that the 50 shades of grey series will also have the final film installment split into 2 parts.

well, there you have it (again). if that happens.

 

[MadVillainy]

Id be more surprised it that and Maze Runner arent cut into 2 parts

 

[Hordakfan]

Technically, before Harry Potter there was:

Superman I & II
Back to the Future II & III
Kill Bill 1 and 2
The Matrix Reloaded & Revolutions
Pirates of the Caribbean 2 & 3

Indeed they were.

I'm also fine with it on big screen adaptations of long books.

 

[Nemeres]

Had Last Airbender been a big hit, I wonder if they would have split the other two seasons into more than one movie each. It lent itself to that even more than a novel, seeing as it's a TV show, and with 20-plus episodes per season.

Season 3, for instance. Part 1 could have ended with the mid-season failed eclipse mission as the climax and with Zuko deciding to turn good. Part 2, the rest of the season. That whole series could have been way more than a trilogy, pity it died so horrifically.

 

[Lord]

If they ever try adapting that again, Book 3 definitely needs 2 movies in the very least.

 

[Octoberist]

A tired cliche:

The Timed fight.

Protagonist checks his watch to time himself before the fight. After wards, he realizes he's off his game, and either quips or does a shrug.

 

[writer0327]

Had Last Airbender been a big hit, I wonder if they would have split the other two seasons into more than one movie each. It lent itself to that even more than a novel, seeing as it's a TV show, and with 20-plus episodes per season.

Season 3, for instance. Part 1 could have ended with the mid-season failed eclipse mission as the climax and with Zuko deciding to turn good. Part 2, the rest of the season. That whole series could have been way more than a trilogy, pity it died so horrifically.

I agree. Day of Black Sun as the end of part 1 and then show Zuko's turn at the beginning of Part 2.

They will visit it again. I hope they do Korra first however.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

so i'm hearing now that av the infinity war 1 & 2 aren't exactly one film being split into two parts. is this true?

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

so i'm hearing now that av the infinity war 1 & 2 aren't exactly one film being split into two parts. is this true?

Feige said that it isn't the same movie split into two parts

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Feige said that it isn't the same movie split into two parts

i wish there was a further explanation of that though. how could that be if it has the same subtitle as well as a part 1 and part 2?

 

[ThePhantasm]

The Dark Knight Rises should have been two parts

 

[godisawesome]

The real issue with two-part films is whether or not the story they use is strong enough to make two quality films. It's basically a battle of padding and pacing; stuff like cannibal tribes, future hover board hijinks, or long political discussions end up becoming the determining factor as to whether your idea will be lauded or derided.

The YA film craze's obsession with the trend can probably be derided 9 times out of 10, since you end up with very uneven films that are clearly designed to string out the audience for twice the payout. I think Hunger Games might break the trend, if they keep the plot twist they've got in the books intact, but I could be wrong. Other films that were shot back to back, like the Back to the Future films and the middle Pirates of the Carribean films, tend to clearly have their A-plot only introduced and teased in the first film, hurting it while saving the payoff for the second.

When it comes to JL and AV, I can only hope they really have a good idea for why to split the story; maybe if they have the villains win the first one, have the films in between treat it as a new status quo, then rally in the second, that'd work. But that's still kind of predictable.

 

[Supernova]

Its always about milking the finale of a franchise nothing more nothing less.

Look at hungers part 1, boring as heck and all the action saved for part 2. Not enough story to hold up.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

I think Watchmen would have worked better in this format.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I wish people aren't that picky and impatient with movies.

If a movie is split, there better be great acting. Which MockingJay, Harry Potter and Hobbit had that made them good enough. Great acting IMO helps character developments, and inner story.

And, that's the BIGGEST factor of all! Why though some people fail to see that?

Twilight did not have great acting, so it sucked of course!

Yeah, but you can have the greatest acting in the world, but the padding to the story kills it. Harry Potter needed the two movies, it had that much story to tell. The Hobbit is way too long and overindulgent, the book was shorter than any of the Lord of the Rings books, but three times as long, the padding is written all over that series. The Hunger Games suffers from the same thing, padding, Mockingjay is just as long of a book as the other two. The movie didn't need to be two parts, it could've work in one part like the other two movies. Truthfully if any of the movies could work with more time I'd say it's Catching Fire, since there's some great stuff about Snow trying to mentally break Katniss. The movie works as just one movie though.

 

[jmc]

The issue is always going to be watering down the story when you split it. If there's nothing to fill it with you risk doing nothing more than meandering through a story at snails pace. So far I don't recall one story that's been split that hasn't suffered from the problem of pacing. I maintain some film fan will one day release a fan edit of The Hobbit or Mockingjay, where they've joined all the movies into one 2 and half hour narrative, which be shown to be superior than what was actually released.

 

[Thundarr]

If they ever try adapting that again, Book 3 definitely needs 2 movies in the very least.

Actually, all three seasons need to each be split into two movies. Book 1: Part 1 could end with The Blue Spirit rescuing Aang from the ambitious admiral (I forget his name). Then Book 1: Part 2 would end the same as the season on TV, with Aang and the water benders of the South Pole Water Tribe (or was it North Pole?) defeating The Fire Nation.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

if av3 is called infinity wars part 1 and part 2, and even if these films are standalone/not cliffhangers and a pickup, how is it not a part of the trend?

 

[Lord]

Actually, all three seasons need to each be split into two movies. Book 1: Part 1 could end with The Blue Spirit rescuing Aang from the ambitious admiral (I forget his name). Then Book 1: Part 2 would end the same as the season on TV, with Aang and the water benders of the South Pole Water Tribe (or was it North Pole?) defeating The Fire Nation.

I used to think that way too, but i started to drop the idea, i think there's much that can be cut from Books 1 and 2, not to mention that 6 would be a very large number, you would have the actors aging some 6 to 8 years throghout the release of the films.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

i heard av3 is getting renamed now?