Tom Rothman mentions the Letters Campaign

[JP]

I hate Fox.

 

[Le Diable Blanc]

They just need to take time to make quality movies

If they really wanted to wait, they would've waited for Bryan Singer to be done with Superman and direct X3.
We all know they didn't; we all know the movie wasn't a quality one.

 

[ThanosOfTitans]

It's funny that you say that flavio, because X1 really didn't have anyone that was a household name...Halle certainly wasn't. But they won't do another X-Men movie without Halle and Halle wants to do another one. So basically, Halle's in it...and I'd rather her be in it than the dumb writers attempt to write her out...which we all know they will fail at miserably.

Halle wasn't a household name? Really? What country are you from? Who doesn't know Halle Berry? More people knew Halle Berry than probably any other cast in X-Men 1. And um...what about a famous gentleman by the name of Patrick Stewart? But there were no household names? Who doesn't know Halle Berry and Patrick Stewart? Hugh Jackman and the rest of the cast weren't household names...but surely...these two had established names, and popularity before the X-men franchise.

And I think it's safe to say that Halle Berry and Patrick Stewart brought even more buzz to the movie. The media was all over the X-men franchise when it was announced that Halle Berry would be playing Storm and Patrick would be playing Professor X....maybe u were in a bubble when all of that took place? Whether people want to believe it or not..there are lots of people who go to see X-men for Halle...Why do u think Fox pay her all that money? For fun?

 

[Le Diable Blanc]

I think what he meant was that Halle wasn't nearly as big as she is today. And I admit I didn't knew much about Patrick Stewart until X1 (not a big Star Trek fan)

 

[ThanosOfTitans]

I don't know how true that is. If I remember correctly, Halle Berry brought a lot of attention and buzz to the franchise. Once again, I say...why do you think Fox pays her so much? Halle Berry was probably the most paid of the entire cast...Fox knew that Halle would bring attention to the franchise.

And I'm not a big fan of Star Trek either, but I know who Patrick Stuart is. I never watched anything Kelsey Grammar has done (prior to X3), but I know who he is.

 

[Le Diable Blanc]

I have no idea who Patrick Stuart is

 

[X-Maniac]

If they really wanted to wait, they would've waited for Bryan Singer to be done with Superman and direct X3.
We all know they didn't; we all know the movie wasn't a quality one.

They'd apparently booked the May slot. I've no idea why they took so long getting things signed and moving if they knew there was a definite release date not that far ahead; I'm not familiar with the exact timetable of events.

It's also clear now that Bryan isn't able to come back, because of other commitments like the SR sequel. So, it might not have been a good idea to wait.

Most of the things that are wrong with the movie didn't need more time anyway, they could easily have been fixed along the way with improved/extended dialogue and connective scenes; and Ghost Rider seems to prove that delaying things doesn't mean they will be perfect.

 

[god/devil]

I have a theory about what fox is planning. They are hoping that FF42 will be a huge hit and that will be there new main franchise because it's not as expensiv as an x-men movie. However if ff42 fail which I hope it doesn't then we will see a fourth x-men movie.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

I have a theory about what fox is planning. They are hoping that FF42 will be a huge hit and that will be there new main franchise because it's not as expensiv as an x-men movie. However if ff42 fail which I hope it doesn't then we will see a fourth x-men movie.

that might actually be right, y'know... maybe they expect FF2 to be their new X2. (wasn't FF about the same level in box office as X-Men?)

 

[Storm22]

Well Fox are welcome to the FF franchise, although I highly doubt FF2 will be as successful as X2, but they should then give the rights of X-Men to someone else!

 

[Le Diable Blanc]

The thing is, FF2 can easily be better than FF1 (because FF1 wasn't that great) whereas X2 had to top X1 (already great). Does that make sense? lol

 

[04nbod]

i hope fox realise that time should be taken to get the characters they have right before bringing in yet more. that was one of my main issues with X3. i can give fox one last chance but they need to have the courage to do an x men movie like X1 and not just celebrities and friends. marvel should also put their foot down. its their characters and screwing them up like rogue and cyclops will have a knock on effect in their comics and sales

 

[danoyse]

No, you're not. I've read of a lot of good X-Men related ideas from a number of people previously involved on the films only to have them shot down by the studio.

Tom Rothman had what is considered to be the best X-Men arc available (The Dark Phoenix Saga) handed to him on a silver platter... and yet he had no other ideas for X-Men 3 aside from the introduction of the cure?

...Good luck while at Fox X-Men...

I totally agree. It just made it so blatantly clear that he didn't understand (or care) about the source material enough to really make a great movie.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

The problem is no one really fought for the Dark Phoenix Saga. The minute he mentioned that Cyclops should be removed, Rogue should be cured, and so forth someone should've put their foot down and said "NO".

A director who cares about quality should've put their foot down and said "NO, we are not rushing this film out in order to beat Superman Returns to the theater. NO, we are not removing important characters in order for Logan to shine again. No, we will not mislead fans and write a half assed script that contained little to no emotion or character development."

This is why directors like Christopher Nolan, Sam Raimi, Peter Jackson, and Guillermo Del Toro(spelling?) are well respected. They know the material and know how to portray it in a faithful manner.

Knowing Rothman and is his mindset he'd probably get Mark Steven Johnson to direct an X4. Seeing what he did with Ghost Rider, I never want him near another comic book film and he BETTER not get near Captain America.

Marvel needs to buy the rights back from Fox first before moving forward with a sequel or a restart.

 

[xmenfilesfan05]

Halle wasn't a household name? Really? What country are you from? Who doesn't know Halle Berry? More people knew Halle Berry than probably any other cast in X-Men 1. And um...what about a famous gentleman by the name of Patrick Stewart? But there were no household names? Who doesn't know Halle Berry and Patrick Stewart? Hugh Jackman and the rest of the cast weren't household names...but surely...these two had established names, and popularity before the X-men franchise.

And I think it's safe to say that Halle Berry and Patrick Stewart brought even more buzz to the movie. The media was all over the X-men franchise when it was announced that Halle Berry would be playing Storm and Patrick would be playing Professor X....maybe u were in a bubble when all of that took place? Whether people want to believe it or not..there are lots of people who go to see X-men for Halle...Why do u think Fox pay her all that money? For fun?

I'm sorry to say you are correct on some of your statements. X-Men did have a household name...and it was Patrick Stewart. But Halle was nowhere NEAR the household name that she is now...NO WHERE near. I suppose you may find it odd now, when someone says that Halle wasn't that well known back before 1999-2000. She may have left a certain impression because of her performance in Queen in 1993, but she certainly wasn't on the radar that she is now. She certainly didn't garner any attention for her role in the Flinstones back in 1994..maybe for you, but not for many. No one really says, "Oh yeah, I remember when Halle became famous...cause of that Flinstones movie."

She recieved critical praise for her performances in Bulworth and Why Do Fools Fall in Love back in 1998, but no one saw those, maybe you. So she hasn't quite made it to "household name" yet. The public (meaning the majority of people) hasn't seen her yet as interesting as other household names. Introducing Dorothy Dandridge won her a Golden Globe and an Emmy. That put her on top of the list of black actresses to play Storm, (her popularity was rising-NOT at the point that it is now).

And to adress a certain sentence. "The media was all over the X-Men franchise when it was announced that Halle Berry would be playing Storm..." Excuse me, the media became aware of X-Men and interested, when online hype and buzz from the "nerds" became quite clear of the title's popularity. By no means did the media hear, "Whose playing Storm?" "Halle Berry!" "Well then let's get on that franchise" I'm sorry to say, back in 2000, Halle wasn't the powerhouse-household name that she is today. If that were true, her name would have been top billing, instead of ahead of Anna Paquin, just behind James Marsden. If her status were as well known as you say it was, she would at least have been where Famke was, fourth on the list, behind Ian McKellen.

Then she does Swordfish, Monster's Ball, and Die Another Day during the 2001-2002 span. All very hyper-sexual rolls...although Monster's Ball wins her an Oscar. After her Oscar appearance, I think it's safe to say, that she was thrust into the households. People saw her and wondered, "What is she really all about?" "I want to know more about this woman who is sobbing on TV." It was after those films and her oscar that she became the hit that she is TODAY.

I am in no way a Halle hater...in fact, I've enjoyed several films she's been in. I am in no way trying to de-value her career as an actress...or take pot-shots. I'm just trying to look at it as level headed, and unbiased as possible. And when you tell me that I lived in a bubble because I didn't think Halle was a household name back in 1999-2000, I'll challenge you on that.

 

[Celestial]

A minor clairification is that Anna Paquin received "last billing" for the first X-Men which is more prestigious than being in the middle of the list. Probably due to a combination of her youth and her Oscar.
Wikipedia has some good explanations of billing order.

I can't really assess whether Halle Berry was a household name in the US - I'm in the UK and the first I heard of her was when she signed for the Bond film. Patrick Stewart was certainly a household name and Ian McKellen brought a great deal of kudos to the project as a great stage actor who had been nominated for an Oscar for Gods and Monsters.

Time passes and Halle Berry is now a big name, Patrick Stewart less so. Ian McKellen is probably bigger than the lot of them (and rightly so).

However, Fantastic Four didn't have any big names and hasn't created any stars and yet Fox are willing to put money behind it. So maybe keeping costs down is more important than recognisable names.

 

[javon]

That interview looks promising but its nothing really. Unless they are working behind the scenes.

If Zack Snyder cant do Wolverine I hope he can do X-Men 4 or whatever it will be called,in a few years. His 300 looks amazing and I think he could handle X-Men well. He was approached for X3 but he had 300 to do.

OMG That movie looks SOOOOOO good! The visual effects were really good and the plot looks very good. If he can pull THAT off, then he can pull an X4 off, although it wouldn't really matter if they had one or not.

 

[Le Diable Blanc]

A minor clairification is that Anna Paquin received "last billing" for the first X-Men which is more prestigious than being in the middle of the list. Probably due to a combination of her youth and her Oscar.

Anna was probably the one I knew best when X1 came out. Thanks for the info on billing order it's pretty interesting.

 

[04nbod]

wasn't she the same billing in X2 as well? i know she was fifth in X3- imdb gets it wrong putting shawn ashmore ahead of her

 

[PeRfEcT_StOrM]

Well..here is X4:

hahaha

 

[gambitfire]

Wtf!?! Rotflmao!!!!!

 

[Loganbabe]

I'd go on a rant about how those two and Chuck have essentially the foundation/proverbial rocks of the x-men for most of the 616-verse timeline, but a certain Logan-infatuated poster will no doubt track me down and accuse me of being either a thought nazi or a moronic action junkie.

Hmmm...totally unnecessary, wasn´t it?
If you can´t handle an argument without making the others posters believe you´re some poor victim of harrasment, I feel sorry for you.
Keep on ranting alongside the "Anti Club" members, they´ll never disagree from you and will always make you feel great and accepted. Why talk to people with different opinions from your own?
As you said, you can´t accept oranges if you only want apples. What a boring life if you don´t appreciate the unexpected.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

@Darth- Would you agree that it's time for a restart? I think things have gone too far now for a sequel to be made. When push comes to shove something has got to give, and whether or not Marvel puts their foot down is complete conjecture on my part.

But we fans as a whole need to speak up more. Fox truly believes that EVERYONE loved X3 and that people are willing to accept anything.

I'm not saying the fans should have 100% input into the creative process, because really, it's not our jobs to create something that is from a comic book. In the end all I can say is that I'm leaning more towards a restart than an actual sequel, you know?

A restart can and will hopefully allow all characters to have their moments to shine both physically, emotionally, and artistically.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Hmmm...totally unnecessary, wasn´t it?

No. I was poking fun at the fact that you accused me of wanting only in x-flicks while I've never ever asked for such a thing. All the things you said I wanted in an x-flick, I just so happened to poked fun at about two months ago on this very board.

If you can´t handle an argument without making the others posters believe you´re some poor victim of harrasment, I feel sorry for you.
Keep on ranting alongside the "Anti Club" members, they´ll never disagree from you and will always make you feel great and accepted. Why talk to people with different opinions from your own?

See above. Dear God. You just don't get the point of the 'eye-rolling' smilie, don't you? Please, grow a sense of humor.

And I hope the irony of you tracking me down and actually posting isn't lost you. You know, the whole 'me calling it' thingie. t:

And just for the record, I keep trying to make it clear that the one thing we're in disagreement over shouldn't even be a opinion.

As you said, you can´t accept oranges if you only want apples. What a boring life if you don´t appreciate the unexpected.

I'll say it once more. It's not about what I WANT.

Take Xavier, for example. Chuck should make the top 5 of ANY 'most important x-character' list. Hands down.

Now, the guy creeps me out to no bloody end with his firecrotch fixation. We might never know the whole story, but it's rather safe to infer it has to do with f***ing Jean. Most certainly not cool.

And yet, he still is undeniably one of the most important x-characters.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

@Darth- Would you agree that it's time for a restart? I think things have gone too far now for a sequel to be made. When push comes to shove something has got to give, and whether or not Marvel puts their foot down is complete conjecture on my part.

I thought X1 and X2 were decent. Wasn't exactly impressed, but there was the hope that X3 would make the overall series worth it.

Said hopes were obliterated while watching X3. Good X-flicks just won't happen with Fox at the helm. Been yelling about a reboot ever since I joined. t:

Not only a reboot -

But we fans as a whole need to speak up more. Fox truly believes that EVERYONE loved X3 and that people are willing to accept anything.

Really? I didn't exactly see them greenlight an X-4 right off the bat. t:

And yet for some reason, they're still going for those two spin-offs.

A restart can and will hopefully allow all characters to have their moments to shine both physically, emotionally, and artistically.

My take on said sentence what that it would allow them to get SOMETHING right besides the occasional name associated with the right power. t: