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There, I said it.
Let me preface this thread with a simple statement: I love Watchmen and I think it's quite possibly the best comic story of all time, perhaps second only to Miracle Man and V for Vendetta (which are of course also Alan Moore).
I put this in the "Movie" section because I believe it merges with the conversation people are having about the ending, the squid, and what needs to be kept intact and what can be changed/omitted without affecting the overall story (plus I want this thread to have more traffic -- there I said it, again).
For those unfamiliar with the Watchmen ending GTFO of the thread...just kidding...spoiler beware.
Here is where my problem starts.
Viedt's killings are not unlike a natural disaster, say a Tsunami or a massive Hurricane, of which we have seen several over the years. True, his scheme is to trick people into thinking there is a threat bigger than their petty squabbles, but has this not always been the case? Climate change, mortality, poverty, world hunger, depleting resources have been known threats to our existence since the dawn of civilization yet have prove ineffectual at causing us to lay down our arms.
It seems to me Veidt is simply a sociopath, a mass murdering psycho and not much else. I think his position as the "world's smartest man" is more his own arrogance projected, and while resourceful he obviously lacks wisdom. To illustrate this I would point to the first meeting Captain Metropolis called where the Comedian verbally abused Veidt in front of the remaining heroes. It seems Veidt is a pride driven man, and this scheme of his may be no more than a desire to enact some very eloborate revenge upon Blake, perhaps because he was jealous of how well Blake understood the world and how easily he chose to ignore morals. Blake had a command of the course of history Veidt only dreamed of. Blake killed Presidents, stopped scandals and won wars without the powers of Dr. Manhattan or the wealth a prominence of Veidt. Veidt must have been angered by this immensely.
I think some attention also needs to be drawn towards Dr. Manhattan. Osterman was becoming more and more disillusioned with humanity from the beginning of the book. The accusations of causing cancer seemed to distance him from those around him and began the slow descent of the nail in the coffin with respect to him leaving at the end as he said he would. The last question Veidt asks him is "[did it] work out in the end?" to which Manhattan replies "Nothing ends, nothing ever ends". Remember, it has been revealed Dr. Manhattan knows, intuitively, the future, so he would know whether Veidt's plan was a success or ultimately a failure. His words seem ominous.
I almost see Dr. Manhattan as the true villain, a man so fed up with humans keeping him back, that he is willing to leave their fate in the hands of a madman like Veidt.
Sure, we know that Veidt's plan worked momentarily, the book says as much, but what we don't know is how long it will last. Like floods, tsunamis and hurricanes there is a moment where the world recollects itself and united, but after that moment has past we renew our old ways. Veidt seems more than short sighted in this respect. If the hostilies renew again how many times will Veidt repeat his experiment until he deems it a failure, and how many lives will he claim in the process?
For this reason I'm not sure the squid is all that important. The squid to me seems to be it's method of commenting on the comic book medium, which is prone to using far fetched villains, like Starro (who the Squid resembles) in it's villainous plots. It could be a space laser, it could be a mysterious Cloverfield type monster. It doesn't matter. The point to me all goes back to "Who Watches the Watchmen". The notion that if you put all your faith into oversized talking atomic bombs and power hungry vigilante's this is how they will repay you. The constant theme of Alan Moore's books: the dangers of totalitarism, fascism and power hungry politicians.
Let me preface this thread with a simple statement: I love Watchmen and I think it's quite possibly the best comic story of all time, perhaps second only to Miracle Man and V for Vendetta (which are of course also Alan Moore).
I put this in the "Movie" section because I believe it merges with the conversation people are having about the ending, the squid, and what needs to be kept intact and what can be changed/omitted without affecting the overall story (plus I want this thread to have more traffic -- there I said it, again).
For those unfamiliar with the Watchmen ending GTFO of the thread...just kidding...spoiler beware.
...The heroes Rorschach and Nite-Owl, soon followed by Silk Specter and Dr. Manhattan, descend upon Ozymandias citadel just in time to catch him in the final moments of his plan. Viedt (Ozymandias) admits to killing The Comedian, Edward Blake, to cover his actions. Viedt has mastered the art of teleportation with a price, everything he teleports dies and blows up, so that's just what he uses it for. He transports an "alien" squid which is really a genetically altered clone of a psychic. His death upon arrival in New York kills millions and subjects millions more to psychic torture for the rest of their lives. Viedt justifies his mass murder by saying that it will unite the world against a common, yet fictional, alien foe. The immediate news justifies his claims as Russia puts aside their differences, but perhaps only momentarily. The heroes, in philosophical stalemate with Viedt, allow him to life.
Here is where my problem starts.
Viedt's killings are not unlike a natural disaster, say a Tsunami or a massive Hurricane, of which we have seen several over the years. True, his scheme is to trick people into thinking there is a threat bigger than their petty squabbles, but has this not always been the case? Climate change, mortality, poverty, world hunger, depleting resources have been known threats to our existence since the dawn of civilization yet have prove ineffectual at causing us to lay down our arms.
It seems to me Veidt is simply a sociopath, a mass murdering psycho and not much else. I think his position as the "world's smartest man" is more his own arrogance projected, and while resourceful he obviously lacks wisdom. To illustrate this I would point to the first meeting Captain Metropolis called where the Comedian verbally abused Veidt in front of the remaining heroes. It seems Veidt is a pride driven man, and this scheme of his may be no more than a desire to enact some very eloborate revenge upon Blake, perhaps because he was jealous of how well Blake understood the world and how easily he chose to ignore morals. Blake had a command of the course of history Veidt only dreamed of. Blake killed Presidents, stopped scandals and won wars without the powers of Dr. Manhattan or the wealth a prominence of Veidt. Veidt must have been angered by this immensely.
I think some attention also needs to be drawn towards Dr. Manhattan. Osterman was becoming more and more disillusioned with humanity from the beginning of the book. The accusations of causing cancer seemed to distance him from those around him and began the slow descent of the nail in the coffin with respect to him leaving at the end as he said he would. The last question Veidt asks him is "[did it] work out in the end?" to which Manhattan replies "Nothing ends, nothing ever ends". Remember, it has been revealed Dr. Manhattan knows, intuitively, the future, so he would know whether Veidt's plan was a success or ultimately a failure. His words seem ominous.
I almost see Dr. Manhattan as the true villain, a man so fed up with humans keeping him back, that he is willing to leave their fate in the hands of a madman like Veidt.
Sure, we know that Veidt's plan worked momentarily, the book says as much, but what we don't know is how long it will last. Like floods, tsunamis and hurricanes there is a moment where the world recollects itself and united, but after that moment has past we renew our old ways. Veidt seems more than short sighted in this respect. If the hostilies renew again how many times will Veidt repeat his experiment until he deems it a failure, and how many lives will he claim in the process?
For this reason I'm not sure the squid is all that important. The squid to me seems to be it's method of commenting on the comic book medium, which is prone to using far fetched villains, like Starro (who the Squid resembles) in it's villainous plots. It could be a space laser, it could be a mysterious Cloverfield type monster. It doesn't matter. The point to me all goes back to "Who Watches the Watchmen". The notion that if you put all your faith into oversized talking atomic bombs and power hungry vigilante's this is how they will repay you. The constant theme of Alan Moore's books: the dangers of totalitarism, fascism and power hungry politicians.