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Bad. One of very worst movie villains. Too cheesy.
some said he wasn't calculative and genius enough.. just like jokers, riddler, two faces or a combination of them...
he accomplished several things that all tied into his master plan in a single action only.
Revenge against Senator Finch
Removes Mercy as the only witness tying him to Keefe
Stops Superman from speaking and swaying public sentiment or the committee about their opinion on Superman
Stops subcommittee oversight into entering the ship
Stops subcommittee from revoking access to the ship
Sullies Superman as powerless, naive, and collateral causing
Shakes Superman to the core
Provokes Batman to full anger
how so? can you show us some examples please?Bad.
That's not on Eisenberg though, it's just that the character they wrote into the film isn't Lex Luthor. I mean he's Lex in name only, but Lex was never a weird creepy Riddler/Joker hybrid so it was a horrible take.
??? how do you stop things from happening??? you stop it before it happens, right???How can you stop him if he never started?
how so? can you show us some examples please?
So much truth!Examples of what?
Watch the film, read the Superman classics. I wanted the bold highly intelligent CEO Lex, the character the fans know and love. Not this scrawny unhinged kid channeling the riddler and joker, hatching a scheme with made little to no sense.
I guess he'll be the lex we all know and love in justice league though eh? It's all about the emotional pay off
examples of a weird creepy Riddler/Joker hybrid... or riddler or jokerExamples of what?
Watch the film, read the Superman classics. I wanted the bold highly intelligent CEO Lex, the character the fans know and love. Not this scrawny unhinged kid channeling the riddler and joker, hatching a scheme with made little to no sense.
I guess he'll be the lex we all know and love in justice league though eh? It's all about the emotional pay off
examples of a weird creepy Riddler/Joker hybrid... or riddler or joker
so that we can compare Jesse performance with them?
can you just do that?
Examples of what?
Watch the film, read the Superman classics. I wanted the bold highly intelligent CEO Lex, the character the fans know and love. Not this scrawny unhinged kid channeling the riddler and joker, hatching a scheme with made little to no sense.
I guess he'll be the lex we all know and love in justice league though eh? It's all about the emotional pay off
I know I don't want comic stuff, that's for comics, I want the essence of the characters pushed into emotional, real, original stories.
If you go with the "classic" Lex all you get is a villain who basically wants to be the best, is really just a jealous person.
This Lex wants to prove he is right and the world (most of the world) is wrong. It makes for a much more motivated villain if you really think about it. One really willing to take extreme risks to win.
The classic Lex would never go so far, so his limits really stifle the story.
I know I don't want comic stuff, that's for comics, I want the essence of the characters pushed into emotional, real, original stories.
Awful just awful
we better hope that prison changed this lex. if he comes back the same silly goober I'm going to just have to rely on editing him out when i get bluray. probably going to do that for bvs anyway
Prison is for the poor.I've tried. It's impossible
But yeah, I just don't see how this Lex can come back to the real world after what he did.
Not for the version I want to see. Speaking just in terms of movies/tv/animated... I can give a pass to John Shea for his season 1 work on L&C and then the best overall live action Lex goes to Rosenbaum for me. That is the closest thing to the standard for this generation which is the corporate TAS Lex. I don't think I'm alone in wanting to have seen him portrayed correctly on film for a change. The manipulator that does everything so things don't come back to him, using people beneath him to take the fall... as he looks down on all from his skyscraper. That's what I consider the good modern version. Played out camp versions are a disappointment. Granted Hackman gets more of a pass for the era he came from when playing his version. Spacey essentially played Hackman, and Singer did a lover letter to Donner which was wasted potential of Spacey. Snyder wasted potential on Eisenberg with whom I now show call "RidLex" yes... Riddler Lex.Prison is for the poor.
he will win his case... just not like the others ... to fool an old woman or jail break together with fools.
btw, are gene hackman & kevin spacey lex luthor considered as 'good / well done' lex luthor???