Superman Returns Was Superman Returns worth the 20 year wait?

[boywonder13]

After 20 years of development hell you would think it would have been a flawless movie.....

but than again seeing Superman onthe big screen again is good also???

 

[dpm07]

After 20 years of development hell you would think it would have been a flawless movie.....

but than again seeing Superman onthe big screen again is good also???

There's no such thing as a flawless movie, but I'd rather wait and get a director who understood the character and respected the source material and not just the original film.

I would also have preferred writers who had talent rather than Singer's buddies Harris & Daugherty. WB has a lot of writers at their disposal, and yet they had to massage Singer's fragile ego by allowing him his whack pack of yes men.

Singer completely disrespected the franchise and the character by many of the choices he made with this movie, and left a stamp that really another director who have a great deal of problems addressing, so likely we're stuck with Singer and his ego.

Now, we'll likely get more of the same, as if SR wasn't bad enough. We'll get to have Singer's version of Wrath of Khan starring Zod, because Superman II wasn't enough. God forbid any of Superman's other rogues actually be in a Superman movie.

Of course, this is the difference between a director like Singer and a director like Raimi or Nolan. The latter two respect the material and the character, and Singer only wants to respect the original film of Superman.

 

[melfangiel]

Was SR worth the wait? I honestly don't know as I'm kinda mixed in my opinion of the finished product.

Since I've never had the opportunity to see any of the Reeve films on the big screen, just experiencing the opening credits (with the classic Superman theme) of SR in the cinema was worth the price of admission for me.

I did like the film despite all its flaws (at least Superman didn't have to fight giant spiders and there were no polar bears in his fortress). But I was slightly disappointed at the same time.

 

[charl_huntress]

That's a big negative, Ghostrider

 

[NHawk19]

No movie is absolutely flawless . . . . .that said this one should have been better.

 

[boywonder13]

Was SR worth the wait? I honestly don't know as I'm kinda mixed in my opinion of the finished product.

Since I've never had the opportunity to see any of the Reeve films on the big screen, just experiencing the opening credits (with the classic Superman theme) of SR in the cinema was worth the price of admission for me.

I did like the film despite all its flaws (at least Superman didn't have to fight giant spiders and there were no polar bears in his fortress). But I was slightly disappointed at the same time.

Me neither I never saw any superman movies in the theatres besides Returns....

Superman Returns could have been better, it is a better product than the oher movie ideas, but there were a few good ones....Superman Returns had a great story, but it felt like it was done wrong and could have been better.

I still enjoy the movie

 

[Orion Pax]

No movie is flawless, but Batman Begins was pretty darn close. This movie was not worth the wait.

 

[The Kid]

Like I usually say, the Kid was great the rest, ho hum. After all that time and money spent on this, I'd rather have a new batman begins-like restart than a STM/notebook/Days of our Supes... I loved the father thing but no, a recycled almost 30 yearold movie with a game-show host Lex Luthor as the main villain again was not worth it.

Wesyeed Out - Love and Kisses

 

[TrailerCues]

This thread wont turn out good

 

[Super Kal]

yes and no...

 

[Steelsheen]

despite my criticisms, i have to say that SR a good solid movie. but the flaws are too big to ignore.

BB wasnt a perfect movie either, but the Pros outweighed the Cons so overwhelmingly.

 

[charl_huntress]

This thread wont turn out good

Not with you here....

I don't know who you are...but guaranteed...You are someone who has been banned.

I'm thinking your are Nivek...you sound like him.

 

[charl_huntress]

despite my criticisms, i have to say that SR a good solid movie. but the flaws are too big to ignore.

BB wasnt a perfect movie either, but the Pros outweighed the Cons so overwhelmingly.

Tell Steel!

 

[The Kid]

Not with you here....

I don't know who you are...but guaranteed...You are someone who has been banned.

I'm thinking your are Nivek...you sound like him.

My old friend Niv, was banned? why? He's a little overly offensive at times but never to the point of being banworthy, I think.

 

[Pickle-El]

There's no such thing as a flawless movie, but I'd rather wait and get a director who understood the character and respected the source material and not just the original film.

I would also have preferred writers who had talent rather than Singer's buddies Harris & Daugherty. WB has a lot of writers at their disposal, and yet they had to massage Singer's fragile ego by allowing him his whack pack of yes men.

Singer completely disrespected the franchise and the character by many of the choices he made with this movie, and left a stamp that really another director who have a great deal of problems addressing, so likely we're stuck with Singer and his ego.[/FONT]

Now, we'll likely get more of the same, as if SR wasn't bad enough. We'll get to have Singer's version of Wrath of Khan starring Zod, because Superman II wasn't enough. God forbid any of Superman's other rogues actually be in a Superman movie.

Of course, this is the difference between a director like Singer and a director like Raimi or Nolan. The latter two respect the material and the character, and Singer only wants to respect the original film of Superman.

Singer's ego, the whack pack, disrespected Jesus and Catholicism....I mean the Superman mythos, psychiatric help etc.

Talk about beating a dead horse.....sheesh.

To answer the thread, NO. That would have been impossible. Then again, there was always the chance. But, it also really depends on which version you like best. Some people feel S:TM was trash, so they have been waiting for more than 20 years for the definitive Superman Movie.

 

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

My old friend Niv, was banned? why? He's a little overly offensive at times but never to the point of being banworthy, I think.

I beg to differ. That guy was overly offensive with me during the first week of SR's release, especially because I didnt like the movie. Well, I guess we all get what we deserve.

 

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

I loved S:TM and in that regard, I was disappointed with SR, due to the... well... stuff that I already criticized so many times. I was underwhelmed with the lack of color in the movie; The fact that Superman was father to an illegitimate child; the fact that he slept with Lois, wiped out her memory, and left her without even a "good-bye"; The fact that Superman spied on Lois and her family like a cheap peeping-tom; Lex's overly daft plan with Real Estate (yet again!); Superman/Clark Kent having an obscenely low amount of dialogue; Kate Bosworth's spunk-less Lois; The home-wrecker theme of the movie (Superman butting into Lois' life with Richard); The Emo-Alien tones; Too many references and comparisons to religious figures; The whole Superman lifting New Krypton (laced with hundreds of pounds of Kryptonite), and throwing it into space - when it was already established in the movie, that even a small piece of kryptonite has deadly effects on his anatomy; The fact that Lois was overly rude and arrogant towards Clark throughout the whole movie.

Well, in short, SR was not worth the 20 year wait. No way.

 

[The Kid]

I beg to differ. That guy was overly offensive with me during the first week of SR's release, especially because I didnt like the movie. Well, I guess we all get what we deserve.

Yeah I'm actually aware of that... it was pretty bad. I never figured he'd get the boot though. I didn't really like him much myself but his passion for ang lee's hulk was what I admired... so we were friends in that sense.

 

[matthooper]

20 years? Are you kidding?

It wasn't worth the 20 minute wait in line at the box office.

 

[Nerial]

I don't think any movie can ever live up to a hype like that. Even though The Phantom Menace sucked--even if it were a good flick, waiting that long for another movie of its kind demands impossible expectations.

I loved SR, but yes, there were flaws. It wasn't perfect by any means, and when I saw it the first time, (mind you, I haven't been waiting 20 years or anything), I was disappointed with a lot of it. But, I had the same deal with the Spider-man movies, and just like them, I saw SR a second time, and loved it because I knew where my expections stood.

That's just the way I work, but if anyone else is like me, has seen SR only once and was disappointed, you'd probably benefit from viewing it again.

Oh, and I couldn't vote on this poll.

 

[matthooper]

That's just the way I work, but if anyone else is like me, has seen SR only once and was disappointed, you'd probably benefit from viewing it again.

So what changes upon a second viewing? Does Lex's come up with a plan that makes sense or is actually imaginative? Is there chemistry between Superman and Lois? Is the kid gone? Is Parker Posey less annoying? Are Lex's pointless goons gone? Does the assanine kryptonite inconsistencies now make sense? Do we get a good story on second viewing?

I can't imagine what would change by me seeing it again. Except that WB would get another $8 or $10 bucks.

 

[X Knight]

umm....actually...I liked Kitty in the movie....she actually seemed to be the only character with genuine emotion in the whole movie......

 

[batman44]

Nah, even though I somewhat liked the movie. I would have liked more in a Superman film.

 

[Comic Book Boy]

20 years? Are you kidding?

It wasn't worth the 20 minute wait in line at the box office.

Then why are you still here, more than a month after the release, talking about it?

 

[Comic Book Boy]

I don't think any movie can ever live up to a hype like that. Even though The Phantom Menace sucked--even if it were a good flick, waiting that long for another movie of its kind demands impossible expectations.

I loved SR, but yes, there were flaws. It wasn't perfect by any means, and when I saw it the first time, (mind you, I haven't been waiting 20 years or anything), I was disappointed with a lot of it. But, I had the same deal with the Spider-man movies, and just like them, I saw SR a second time, and loved it because I knew where my expections stood.

That's just the way I work, but if anyone else is like me, has seen SR only once and was disappointed, you'd probably benefit from viewing it again.

Oh, and I couldn't vote on this poll.

I agree, for the most part.