web fluid

[xman86]

hey I was wondering if any one knows how to make webfluid .Please PM me if you know how.

thanks xman86

 

[MST3KPIMP]

you'll be making plenty of it when at the right age.

 

[DDRSkata]

Shut the hell up. He's looking for real information, not you being more of a jackass than usual, which is an accomplishment. He may not be able to find the info, but that doesn't excuse you being an ass to him.

 

[Equint77]

Xman86.

Believe me when I was much much younger I wondered the same thing.

Now that I'm older and have read all there is about Spider-man they never tell you, as far as I know.

All they say is that it's a compound of liquid cement and other chemicals that react once they get in contact with air (web lines etc.) Also in order for it to work you have to put them in tubes to shoot out of.

I don't even think NASA would know how to make this stuff but good luck trying.

 

[Jspider13]

There will probably be a substance to be used for that sort of purpous like military use and stuff, but won't necassarily be considered 'web-fluid'.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Y'all have got to be kidding me! You might as well ask how to make Adhesive X! Or adamantium. Or your own Mjolnir. It's FICTIONAL. If it existed or could actually be made, Raimi & Co. wouldn't have deemed it too implausible to use in the movie! Get real!

 

[The offspring]

I'm not kidding you but they've made a similar substance to spiders webs using goats milk, i kid you not.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Actually I did know about that; the military wants a material close to the tensile strength of spider silk to weave into their body armor. But it still isn't "web fluid" & you still can't make it in your basement.
Bottom line: It. Can't. Be. Done.
And DDR; remind me never to make an ad hominum remark toward anybody in your presence.

 

[Kurt Wagner]

actually it can be done. All you need is the right person to think it up.

there was once a time when people thought flying was impossible.

All you need is someone determined enough to make it, even if its not practical

 

[Donald Thomas]

Originally posted by Chris Wallace
Y'all have got to be kidding me! You might as well ask how to make Adhesive X! Or adamantium. Or your own Mjolnir. It's FICTIONAL. If it existed or could actually be made, Raimi & Co. wouldn't have deemed it too implausible to use in the movie! Get real!

Aloha,
Truth be told, dissoving sutures and super strong adhesives have been around for some time. One of the best things about the 90's cartoon was the explaination of webbing. Spider-Man tells a little girl ( the boy who collects Spider-Man), that as a result of becoming Spider-Man he INSTINCTIVELY knew which chemicals to mix. I can go along with that. Once you accept how Peter becomes Spider-Man, it's logical. No one teaches a spdier how to spin the intricate webs that the spin, they instinctively know.Anything that the human mind can conceive of, can become a reality in time. Dick Tracy's two way wrist radio was a cartoon gadget when it came out, now you can buy them in any electronics store.The Spider Clone stories pre date the actual cloning of Dolly the Sheep. Unfortunately, some of the most cutting edge research in science is not motivated by healers but by the military. Imagine what webbing and web shooters could do in a war time situation. The police depts. would also want something that could handle crowd control. Never stop dreaming, never stop beleiving. It may be fantasy today, but a reality tomorrow.
Spidey rules

 

[DDRSkata]

The problem with this whole instinctive knowledge gain situation is that spiders already have the chemicals inside them, so their body mixes them together, making them more analagous to organics. But if you want to apply the concepts to mechs, it seems kind of stupid that he'd know exactly which chemicals to buy and how to mix them, seeing as they're not in his body or anything.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Originally posted by DDRSkata
The problem with this whole instinctive knowledge gain situation is that spiders already have the chemicals inside them, so their body mixes them together, making them more analagous to organics. But if you want to apply the concepts to mechs, it seems kind of stupid that he'd know exactly which chemicals to buy and how to mix them, seeing as they're not in his body or anything.

Aloha,
Beavers and birds don't go to architecture school to learn how to build dams and nests, they do it instinctively.
If there were ten boxes in a room and one had a bomb in it, Spider-Mans spider sense would let him know which of the ten was dangerous. His spider sense has also been used to pick up his spider tracers after he tuned then to his frequency. Being a scientist first and foremost, would allow Peter to go to any store where adhesives and other such products were sold and instinctively know what would work and what would not. Again, this is not comic continuity but 90's cartoon. It was never explained in detail how he mixed up his web fluid in the comics, other than the fact that he was a book worm.If you go to the store right now, there's Super Glue and Super Glue remover. Apply that principle and you'd get super strong adhesives on one end and various glue solvents on the other. Mix then in the right proportions and you'd get a super glue that would dissolve over a period of time.The web shooters of Amazing Fantasy 15 are no where near as sophisticated as the ones a year later in Amazing Annual #1. It was also explained that Peter came up with the idea but then has various parts of the web shooters sent out to be made. Only he knows how to put the parts together to make the web shooters.Same thing would apply to Ben Reily who actually IMPROVED upon both the web shooters and webbing.
Spidey rules

 

[oceans11]

I know this is an old post, but I found this on one of the MARVEL sites. Very interesting. I'm sure all of us know this, but I had no idea the detail that they went into.

Weapons: Spider-Man uses web-shooters which are twin devices worn on his wrists which can shoot thin strands of a special “web fluid” at high pressure. The web fluid is a shear-thinning liquid (virtually solid until a shearing force is applied to it, rendering it fluid) whose exact formula is as yet unknown, but is related to nylon. On contact with air, the long-chain polymer knits and forms an extremely tough, flexible fiber with extraordinary adhesive properties. The web fluid’s adhesive quality diminishes rapidly with exposure to air. (Where it does not make contact with air, such as the attachment disk of the web-shooter, it remains very adhesive.) After about 2 hour, certain imbibed ether cause the solid form of the web fluid to dissolve into a powder. Because the fluid almost instantly sublimates from solid to liquid when under shear pressure, and is not adhesive in its anaerobic liquid/solid phase transition point, there is no clogging of the web-shooter’s parts.

The spinneret mechanism in the web-shooter is machined from stainless steel, except for the turbine component, which is machined out of a block of Teflon and the two turbine bearings, which are made of amber and artificial sapphire. The wristlet and web fluid cartridges are mainly nickel-plated annealed brass. Spider-Man’s web cartridge belt is made out of brass and light leather and holds up to 30 cartridges. The cartridges are pressurized to 300 pounds per square inch and sealed with a bronze cap which is silver soldered closed. The wristlets have sharp steel nipples, which pierce the bronze cap when the cartridges are tightly wedged into their positions. A palm switch that is protected by a band of spring steel, which requires a 65 pounds pressure to trigger, actuates the hand-wound solenoid needle valve. The switch is situated high on the palm to avoid most unwanted firings. A rubber seal protects the small battery compartment. The effect of the very small turbine pump vanes is to compress (share) the web fluid and then force it, under pressure, through the spinneret holes which cold-draws it (stretches it: the process wherein nylon gains a four-fold increase in tensile strength), then extrudes it through the air where it solidifies. As the web fluid exits the spinneret holes, it is attracted to itself electro statically and thus can form complex shapes. The spinneret holes have three sets of adjustable, staggered openings around the turbine, which permit a single line, a more complex, spun web line, and a thick stream. The web line’s tensile strength is estimated to be 120 pounds per square millimeter of cross section. The 300 pounds per square inch of pressure in each cartridge is sufficient to force a stream of the complex web pattern an estimated 60 feet (significantly farther if shot in a ballistic parabolic arc).

 

[dariu3z]

Century Gothic]xman86 you are right there is a formula for web fluid it is liquid cement,strong liquid glue and the last igrediant is c6h13no if some one knows what that chemical is their lucky and hwo doesnt know what is il keep them in suspense for 3 days

 

[November Rain]

a secret mixture of washing up liquid and homemade semen in a compressed methane fart based cylinder.

 

[Halcohol]

Century Gothic]xman86 you are right there is a formula for web fluid it is liquid cement,strong liquid glue and the last igrediant is c6h13no if some one knows what that chemical is their lucky and hwo doesnt know what is il keep them in suspense for 3 days

Oh, you're a crafty one, you are. You must've been drinking some of that dihydrogen monoxide.

 

[faceplant]

you'll be making plenty of it when at the right age.

nominated for post of the century.

 

[dariu3z]

ok ok i wont keep you in suspese the formula is nylon listen up guys i allready tested the web web works awsome it holds up 25 kg but theres one bad thing the stuff costed me alot of money but i think it was worth it.hm now to the formula i think i should use a biger concertration of liquid cement and glue see ya later true believers.

 

[dariu3z]

wow you wont believe it guys i just saw this show cold ripleys believe it or not
there was this guys hwo colects spider-webs and melts them they turn to this sticky yelow stuff that when he spilled it on a giant piece of paper they sticked it to a car and lifted it the paper didnt even rip.later he made plastick armor and spiled that stuff on the armor then two guys tried to beat him with baseball bats and nothing that guy didnt felt a thing it was so awsome i couldnt believe my eyes.but there is one bad thing to make a drop of that stuff you need 100 spider-webs.i all ready colected a web ball a size of a ping pong ball.i think il keep colecting it and one day make a rope out of it.

 

[spyderman2k4]

wow you wont believe it guys i just saw this show cold ripleys believe it or not
there was this guys hwo colects spider-webs and melts them they turn to this sticky yelow stuff that when he spilled it on a giant piece of paper they sticked it to a car and lifted it the paper didnt even rip.later he made plastick armor and spiled that stuff on the armor then two guys tried to beat him with baseball bats and nothing that guy didnt felt a thing it was so awsome i couldnt believe my eyes.but there is one bad thing to make a drop of that stuff you need 100 spider-webs.i all ready colected a web ball a size of a ping pong ball.i think il keep colecting it and one day make a rope out of it.

True true. While I didn't see that exact episode, I know what guy you are talking about (I believe he made a whole bear suite... like, an armor suite that would withstand a bear attack). Anyway, the one I saw, he put his "spider web liquid" onto four of those cotton discs (kinda looked like stridex pads, but they're just cotton). Then he had a car on a platform. On each corner of the platform was a chain, clamped to one of the cotton discs. Then a crain lifted fourh chains, which were clamped to the cotton pads (each pad essentiall made a "link" in each chain). Needlessly to say, the cotton pads were indestructable. It's a very cool thing, I'll see if I can find a video of it or something.

 

[dariu3z]

that would be so cool i just love to see it one more time t:. and if we could melt the web we could make a realy working webfluid that would hold realy heavy stuff.

 

[RachelF5]

I wish I knew how.

 

[SolidSnake]

True true. While I didn't see that exact episode, I know what guy you are talking about (I believe he made a whole bear suite... like, an armor suite that would withstand a bear attack). Anyway, the one I saw, he put his "spider web liquid" onto four of those cotton discs (kinda looked like stridex pads, but they're just cotton). Then he had a car on a platform. On each corner of the platform was a chain, clamped to one of the cotton discs. Then a crain lifted fourh chains, which were clamped to the cotton pads (each pad essentiall made a "link" in each chain). Needlessly to say, the cotton pads were indestructable. It's a very cool thing, I'll see if I can find a video of it or something.

Yeah try finding that vid, I'd like to see it too.

 

[Mr Jide]

you'll be making plenty of it when at the right age.

lol typical pimp. I wonder where he is these days.

 

[drmick]

you'll be making plenty of it when at the right age.

Can you web-swing on yours, though?