What real Right do Humans have Over this Planet???

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  1. Odin's Lapdog

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    I mean we believe ourselves to be the most intelligent species, but i sure many others feel the same.

    we can only judge them by our methods of rationalising 'What makes one intelligent', while they can only do the same i suppose.

    Yet saying this, as human beings, we are behaving less and less like animals, with our material functions and lives that will have no major effect on the environment except for pollute and use up natural resources as we breed uncontrollably. Doesn't sound so intelligent to me:o

    The thing i was thinking, is that everyone kinda thinks that if there is intelligent life out there, that they would contact us, since this is OUR planet, but is it really?

    Humans only provide a small number of the total population of living organisms on this planet, yet we believe it to be ours. Is it because we are at the top of the food change, cause naturally (i.e. without weapons) i don't think this would be the case either.

    We aren't the largest animal, we don't have the highest population (especially if you consider sea creatures, and insects as well as bacterias and viruses), we deem ourselves the most intelligent, yet we do the most harm to our natural environment. The only thing we do have is CNN and Cartoon Network:o

    Is that enough to be able to claim this planet ours???

    just think about it and see what you think...
     
  2. Morg

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    actually I think Galactus claims this planet.....
     
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    one post, and already off topic...

    :(

    you are evil morg...
     
  4. Morg

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    Man,its amazing how much we think alike...I was saying something like this 2 days ago...stalker:mad:
     
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    First, we don't "deem" ourselves the most intelligent. We ARE the most intelligent.

    Second, the strongest always survive - and this doesn't necessarily mean raw strength. The strength of a species is primarily determined by that species' ability to adapt to its environment. It does that by using a means *other* than what it's physically equipped with. I mean, if you drop a naked human man in the middle of the arctic, he'll freeze to death. But change the naked human male into an elephant, and the elephant will also freeze to death. It's not about size or strength - it's about adaptability. Given enough time, the man would eventually find shelter, clothing and food. The elephant would not.

    Third, the Earth doesn't truly belong to any one species. However, because we must propagate our species and because we ARE the most intelligent, the responsibility or burden of being the caretaker for the rest of the world falls on our shoulders.
     
  7. blind_fury

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    The Earth doesnt need humans. In fact, the Earth would be much better off without humans.

    Imagine a world without ppl. Flourishing wildlife, serene and peaceful.

    But mankind will continue to multiply until the Earth is a wasteland. :(
     
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    Im being 100% serious here when I say this,but I think that cows are the smartest creatures on this Earth.I mean,look at them.THey are so smart,they know they have no chance of fighting against the guy in the slaughter-house,so they play dumb.They are taught to accept their fate from when they are calfs.
     
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    Sometimes I stand on a street(waiting for a bus or something) and I think: Without all these buildings,without all these cars,these screaming babies,these dark clouds....this Earth would be a complete paradise.
     
  10. Odin's Lapdog

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    great minds ;)

    good binoculars help though...
     
  11. dmcnx

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    I knew that was you!

    Actually,I thought it was Christina Milian...she texted me last week saying this:

    OMG..i wnt ur secks now big boy...

    I had to politely decline, so now shes stalking me...I really need to turn down all this hawtness,it isnt good for my health:(

    But back to the subject at hand:up:
     
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    If i gave you an intelligence test in Yoruba, i'd like to see your score. I find it hard to deem one species as more intelligent than another based soley on one species view. If a Dog asked you a question, you wouldn't be able to answer, yet because it doesn't answer to you, you can say it is less intelligent than yourself. i know we can go into brain size and functionability, but i don't personally see that counting for too much.

    Adaptability is fine, but i'm sure they are other animals that are able to adapt to far more of their surroundings than us humans, especially if you take into account that a large proportion of this earth is actually covered by water, so in theory, there should be some sea life creature that may be able to enhabit a higher percentage of this planet through adaptability than we do (theorectically)

    none of these animals asked for us to take care of them, and as Caretakers of a planet we are doing a pretty **** job, with pollution and contributing to the green house effect, and the o-zone layer depletion. i'd have us fired from that role:o
     
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    you should get a car:o
     
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    In good time,Sll...in good time:up:
     
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    If theres one thing Ive learned in my life, its that humanity sucks. A singular human may not, but as a whole, we all do.
     
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    We dont suck,we just **** everything up and then ***** about global warming:up:
     
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    yeah, but that sucks though....


    anywho, i have this suspicion, that if an alien race comes to this planet, they may not judge us as worthy enough animals to try and communicate with and may choose other forms of life..

    maybe dolphins, maybe bees, or ants, animal societies that are more in tune with their surroundings, an aspect they may deem more worthy of...


    heck maybe even roaches...

    :o
     
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    Cows:o
     
  19. Danalys

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    okay the natural world isn't some paradise. it's a daily, often painful, struggle for survival. the comfort we've provided for ourselves at the expense of nature can blind you to this.
     
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    MOOObye, MOOObye not...
     
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    True, but nature balances it out for us, and one death often leads to life. That's what an environment does, everything eventually balances itself out, but we are an anomoly to this as we don't play the life game by the rules of other creatures
     
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    the game of life is to secure your survival and you decendants survival as much as possible. we do that well. there are no rules to this game, only consequences of actions. if we destroy our selves by our actions then so be it.
     
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    does this mean this planet is ours though to do as we see fit?
     
  24. Danalys

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    i really think you could define ownership as that which you can destroy.

    what is it that we see fit to do. will we ever see fit to clean up the damage we've done. do we have no rights to space. since people were suggesting we shouldn't be here. what gives other animals anymore right to any space than we do. would any other predator create preserves for other animals like we attempt to.
     
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    Humanity has gone far beyond basic survival needs. We now destroy the earth for the sake of comfort and convience. That's something no other living creature does.

    And if we destroy the Earth we have done far worse than destroy ouselves. We may have destroyed the possibilty of life forever. :eek:
     

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