Infinity War Who dies? If there's any?

[smallville fan]

What the title says.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

lol, was just thinking about this when I stumbled on your thread. I think everyone will die. It's Marvel afterall so hear me out.

- Captain America is bound to die in a movie called Civil War. It's kind of implied. It was even rumored that it was almost called "Fallen Son." I expect this to happen and I expect Bucky will take the shield up in his place.

- By this time, Stark will have retired from being Iron Man in favor of a more "director of shield" type position. And Hulk has been shot into space (I'm still banking on this).

- I'm thinking now more than ever that Thor will die at the end of Ragnarok, "the end of all things." He dies facing Surtur or Thanos and wakes up in Valhalla. Far from the madness of the galaxy he left behind.

Thus the original Avengers are effectively over. And in Avengers: Infinity War part 1, the team consists of:
Bucky Cap
Hawkeye
Ant-Man
Black Panther
Doctor Strange
Quicksilver
Scarlet Witch
Vision

And they get wrecked. Possibly even a couple of them die. Then Part II brings the original team back, plus some:
Iron Man's final hurrah.
Captain Rogers back from the dead... but how?
the Guardians bring Hulk back.
Thor comes home from Valhalla.
Captain Marvel

 

[BatsDC]

I don't think any of the main heroes will die. War Machine, Winter Soldier, etc., sure. But they're going to want at least the core team - Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow + Hawkeye to survive the fight to tie the trilogy up nicely. And any franchise launchers - Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, etc. will make it out fine too. They won't kill a Guardian outside of their own series either.

I personally think it'd be cool to really show the power of Thanos if he stormed Asgard to gain the Tesseract and straight up murdered Odin. That's how you show how powerful Thanos is, without having to kill off half the universe you've spent 10+ years building.

 

[Roose Bolton]

They could probably get away with killing Hulk, as he has no solo franchise.

 

[Gr0oT]

Mar-Vell dies setting up the Captain Marvel movie that follows IW1.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

I don't think any of the main heroes will die. War Machine, Winter Soldier, etc., sure. But they're going to want at least the core team - Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow + Hawkeye to survive the fight to tie the trilogy up nicely. And any franchise launchers - Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, etc. will make it out fine too. They won't kill a Guardian outside of their own series either.

I disagree all the main Avengers can die (obviously they won't all die), if Phase 4 and 5 are going to be the likes of Black Panther Captain Marvel Inhumans Dr Strange and any others they bring in, then certainly the current crop might not be needed.

For me I see Infinity War as an overlap, a period where the old cast and characters hand over to the new characters to continue on the MCU.

I personally think it'd be cool to really show the power of Thanos if he stormed Asgard to gain the Tesseract and straight up murdered Odin. That's how you show how powerful Thanos is, without having to kill off half the universe you've spent 10+ years building.

To the GA I don't see how this would show Thanos to be that powerful when Odin has barely done anything in the films.

 

[Lilbaz]

Think a few should die starting with the death of Cap in Civil War, this will start a chain of events that will almost destroy Marvel Universe.

Then we have the time gem, that will have to be used. Have Tony go back and save Cap. That way we can have our cake and eat it. We'd have a couple of films/years where the death of Cap is massive and effects things. But we can still have him leading the fight against Thanos.

 

[BatsDC]

If a character dies, they die. Cap's death would be completely and utterly meaningless, because we'd all know he's coming back a few movies later.

Why are people so keen for characters to be killed off this early in the MCU? You don't kill off a character after 2 or 3 adventures. James Bond's still going strong, and Feige wants to use that template moving forward - just continue with the characters using different actors. It's too soon to kill off anyone important.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

If a character dies, they die. Cap's death would be completely and utterly meaningless, because we'd all know he's coming back a few movies later.

Why are people so keen for characters to be killed off this early in the MCU? You don't kill off a character after 2 or 3 adventures. James Bond's still going strong, and Feige wants to use that template moving forward - just continue with the characters using different actors. It's too soon to kill off anyone important.

Hardly early, Cap would have been in 6/7 films, Iron Man 8.

James Bond is still going strong yeah, but he has been in 23 films in 52 years

Iron Man will have been in 8 in 11. And unlike James Bond the MCU is supposed to be a whole universe not just 3,4 or 5 characters or whatever.
There are plenty of characters to come in and replace them.

So yeah if they die they die. I'm not saying kill Cap in Infinity War and bring him back 2 years later. I'm saying kill Steve and never bring him back. Someone else can be Cap or another franchise can replace his. And before people say they wouldn't kill off their big names cos of the money the first Cap made 370.6 million at the box office, is Dr Strange or Black Panther going to make less than that?

PS I don't want specifically for Cap and IM to die, just that some big names should die, and two of the older characters with their actors coming to the end of their time would make sense. I don't want Thanos to happen to just kill sidekicks or non-franchise characters. Nor do I want the Time Gem to bring everyone back.

 

[smallville fan]

They could probably get away with killing Hulk, as he has no solo franchise.

How would one kill the Hulk?

Bruce Banner couldn't commit suicide.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Shoot him into the sun, throw him into a black hole, use the Space Gem to scatter his particles across the cosmos....I dunno. They'll think of something.

 

[MbJ]

Shoot him into the sun, throw him into a black hole, use the Space Gem to scatter his particles across the cosmos....I dunno. They'll think of something.

Thanos uses the Infinity Gauntlet to revert him to Banner and then kills him before he can change back.

 

[Red Mask]

If we're starting a dead pool then we need some collateral for the pot.

What are you willing to offer? Comics? Gift cards? Actual money?

 

[jaqua99]

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[Lilbaz]

If a character dies, they die. Cap's death would be completely and utterly meaningless, because we'd all know he's coming back a few movies later.

Why are people so keen for characters to be killed off this early in the MCU? You don't kill off a character after 2 or 3 adventures. James Bond's still going strong, and Feige wants to use that template moving forward - just continue with the characters using different actors. It's too soon to kill off anyone important.

Guess what, all deaths in films are meaningless. They might effect the audience for about half an hour after they leave the theater. They might even effect characters in the next film. But after that they will be forgotten. If they were popular enough they could be brought back, it's a comic book film it's part expected.

 

[ctsketch]

Thanos uses the Infinity Gauntlet to revert him to Banner and then kills him before he can change back.

Banner shot himself in the mouth as banner unsuccessfully and in TIH he fell from a plane onto the ground before transforming....I dont think being banner makes him any more easy to kill

 

[Lilbaz]

Banner shot himself in the mouth as banner unsuccessfully and in TIH he fell from a plane onto the ground before transforming....I dont think being banner makes him any more easy to kill

Thanos could turn him into a goldfish, then watch as he flopped about on the ground.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Guess what, all deaths in films are meaningless. They might effect the audience for about half an hour after they leave the theater. They might even effect characters in the next film. But after that they will be forgotten. If they were popular enough they could be brought back, it's a comic book film it's part expected.

I don't think that's true, if Coulson never returned every time you watched Avengers if you liked the character you'd feel sad that he dies and it would be meaningful, now watching it again that death is meaningless.

For me if say Steve died at the end of IW, never to return (I know that won't happen) when I ever I watched that bit in IW it would impact me and wouldn't lose anything on repeat view and it would not be meaningless, it could continue to impact the MCU for years.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't think that's true, if Coulson never returned every time you watched Avengers if you liked the character you'd feel sad that he dies and it would be meaningful, now watching it again that death is meaningless.

For me if say Steve died at the end of IW, never to return (I know that won't happen) when I ever I watched that bit in IW it would impact me and wouldn't lose anything on repeat view and it would not be meaningless, it could continue to impact the MCU for years.

Exactly. This is inherently why the "Fallen Son" idea just doesn't work as anything but a cheap gimmick for Cap 3. We all know he will be back either at the end of Infinity War part 1 or at some point in Infinity War part 2. The death loses all meaning. When you kill a major character, it should mean something. Not be something I know is temporary. Like you said with Coulson's death, it doesn't carry the same meaning when he comes back. Cap's death in Civil war won't either when he pops back in Infinity War and re-takes the mantle. This is the primary reason I am against the idea: it won't feel like a moment. It will feel like the writers needed him away from the story until he could be brought back into the finale. That is a cheap way to do it, and not creative.

 

[0604854]

As far as I know Chris Evans is contracted to do civil war and an avengers movie so I doubt he will die in Civil war, plus one of the biggest comic book moments is Cap facing off against Thanos.

 

[Spitfire]

As far as I know Chris Evans is contracted to do civil war and an avengers movie so I doubt he will die in Civil war, plus one of the biggest comic book moments is Cap facing off against Thanos.

If the civil war theme of heroes disliking/distrusting each other continues throughout phase 3, it will require a significant event to bring the team and other characters together.

Cap and the new Avengers team being destroyed by Thanos in IW1 would certainly do this and showcase the power of Thanos. Plus this would provide the epic Cap vs Thanos battle.

It will be interesting to see Marvel explain characters like Hawkeye and Widow surviving an encounter with Thanos.

 

[Aztec]

I hope the answer is half of the universe!

#bringhomespidey

 

[Lilbaz]

Think Thanos will kill all but one or 2 and will leave Earth a smoldering wreck.

 

[Lilbaz]

I don't think that's true, if Coulson never returned every time you watched Avengers if you liked the character you'd feel sad that he dies and it would be meaningful, now watching it again that death is meaningless.

For me if say Steve died at the end of IW, never to return (I know that won't happen) when I ever I watched that bit in IW it would impact me and wouldn't lose anything on repeat view and it would not be meaningless, it could continue to impact the MCU for years.

Are Marvel that worried about repeat views though? I'd think they'd be more worried of parents not taking kids to watch it because it would upset them. This way the parents can tell the kids don't worry he's not really dead he'll be back.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Are Marvel that worried about repeat views though? I'd think they'd be more worried of parents not taking kids to watch it because it would upset them. This way the parents can tell the kids don't worry he's not really dead he'll be back.

If they want their films to be iconic, then perhaps they should worry about repeat viewings rather than incorporating fake emotional impact.

I think kids can handle a character dying and if they get upset that is kind of the point. Plus how would the parents know if a character is going to die before the film comes out.