Why do you prefer DC?

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by NeoSamurai
Marvel tends to avoid those types of stories and focuses on kid soap operas with archetypes that do not change too much.

Thats a gross generalization especially coming from someone who read only 3 Marvel books. I read about 20 Marvel books a month and none of them are kid soap operas. Most comic books tend to be soap operaish even DC ones. So that point is really to generalized. Im glad to see youre reading Daredevil though.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

^ This man knows.

 

[Pariah]

Originally posted by Assassin
What?? Conan?? wasnt issue 1 like 25c or something, i didnt even bother to pick it up but you say its better than all of the current story lines in DC or Marvel???

Pull your head outta your ass buddy

*pop* Okay, it's out. And, uh, look at that, I STILL like Conan better than anything at Marvel or DC right now!

Plus, since when does cost=quality in the comic industry?

I'm not "hating" on DC or Marvel, I read a boatload of their stuff, too (in fact, mostly their stuff). I just like Conan right now better than anything else currently being published. Check it out, you might not think it's your favorite, but it is good--you won't be sorry you plopped down your money.

 

[Assassin]

I said it might be good, its just that that whole wool loin clothe sword era doesnt intrest me, its just that theres no way that can be better than every single thing out right now, even Austen's work is better than that

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That's a dumb statement to make without having read it.

 

[Bat-Mantis]

Yup. I agree. Dumbness to the max there.

 

[NeoSamurai]

Originally posted by darthphere
Thats a gross generalization especially coming from someone who read only 3 Marvel books. I read about 20 Marvel books a month and none of them are kid soap operas. Most comic books tend to be soap operaish even DC ones. So that point is really to generalized. Im glad to see youre reading Daredevil though.

I've read more than 3 Marvel Books. I read most of the stuff Marvel put out in the early nineties when they went gimmick crazy and nearly put themselves out of business. I'm also aware of the MJS era of spiderman where MJ left Spidey (gasp! could that be anymore soap opera-ish?). I remember when the X-men stories began the Gambit and Rogue thing that they've been milking for years. Then there's the whole gamut of X-books which is nothing but one long soap opera and its spin-offs now (Hello! White Queen and Scott and how it affects Phoenix?).

To say its a gross generalization is wrong when it is backed up by examples demonstrating a strong focus on the romantic relationships and similar entanglements of the characters over other aspects of story (whereas X-men and Spiderman books could actually focus on external factors or character development of other characters that need development). In this aspect, the Marvel books tend to mimick reality TV and the dynamics thereof.

 

[Azrael24]

I agree that Marvel books are a bit soap-opera, but then again, I don't mind romance mixed in with action (except in Spider-man2 the movie, too much of it).

As far as the whole Conan thing, Assassin, you should give it a chance before you say that it "can't be better than everything else out." But I do understand where you are coming from on the era not interesting you. I think the "best" book out is subjective to the reader's taste.

I prefer DC, because honestly...I like the characters more.

 

[NeoSamurai]

I've read some conan comics. They tend to be pretty good whereas the TV show and movies portrayed Conan with little intelligence or characterization.

 

[LadyVader]

I really have no idea...

Maybe because we don't have an Ultimate Batman or an Ultimate Superman, or Ultimate Wonder Woman...

 

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by NeoSamurai
I've read more than 3 Marvel Books. I read most of the stuff Marvel put out in the early nineties when they went gimmick crazy and nearly put themselves out of business. I'm also aware of the MJS era of spiderman where MJ left Spidey (gasp! could that be anymore soap opera-ish?). I remember when the X-men stories began the Gambit and Rogue thing that they've been milking for years. Then there's the whole gamut of X-books which is nothing but one long soap opera and its spin-offs now (Hello! White Queen and Scott and how it affects Phoenix?).

To say its a gross generalization is wrong when it is backed up by examples demonstrating a strong focus on the romantic relationships and similar entanglements of the characters over other aspects of story (whereas X-men and Spiderman books could actually focus on external factors or character development of other characters that need development). In this aspect, the Marvel books tend to mimick reality TV and the dynamics thereof.

Thats it see you just made my point more clear. Youre talking about Marvel in the 90's. Gimmicky and lacking quality. Im talking about the Marvel of today where the sopa opera stories still exist but not in the quantity they did in the 90's. Aboout MJ leaving Spiderman, if you read the arc that happened in you would see that her decision was not soap operaish. I never knew leaving someone wwas neing soap operaish, then 12 million americans that leave their partners are all living soap operas.(Sorry random fact).

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Not to mention the fact that DC is guilty of romantic overtures as much as Marvel is anyway. Linda left Wally in the Flash, Merayn left John Stewart and Jade cheated on Kyle in Green Lantern, Superboy was prohibited from seeing Batgirl in Batgirl, Spoiler thought Robin was cheating on her in Robin, Catwoman and Batman have had an ongoing on-again, off-again relationship in their respective comics, Superboy is dating Wonder Girl in Teen Titans, Arsenal is sleeping with everybody in Outsiders, Batman and Wonder Woman considered entering a relationship in JLA... and that's just in the past year. The list goes on and on, as much for DC as it does for Marvel.

 

[Azrael24]

I don't why everyone has an issue with a little "soap opera" in the comics. As long as it is not overdone. Hell, any grown @$$ man in tights, looking at grown @$$ women in tights, heroines and villainesses (sp?) alike, is going to eventuallly say, "I need to get one of those." Psylocke, Storm, WW, Catwoman, Ivy....the books would not be believeable in the least if they just stood there and with their hands on their hips or crossed over the chests and said, no all the time.

So all those who don't like the Soap Opera thing, are you telling me if you were an X-man...you wouldn't try anything. Or if you were in the JLA...you wouldn't try to hook up with WW or the affiliate ladies. Hell, Batman is a womanizer to the core! It adds spice peoples...

 

[Assassin]

Dude the way Michael turner is drawing them in batman/superman i would go for them too!

 

[NeoSamurai]

X-Men continues to milk the soap opera and has for 10+ years.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I like Arsenal's approach to the soap opera thing in Outsiders.

 

[Darthphere]

Originally posted by NeoSamurai
X-Men continues to milk the soap opera and has for 10+ years.

Then stop reading it and stop trolling the board. Its easy as that. There are hundreds of titles out there look for one you like and stop crying abut it.

 

[The Batman]

I like the fact that DC's heroes are actually heroes.


Marvel's heroes are heroes....but they're not True heroes in my eyes. THey're usually selfish, self-loathing people who need so big, traumatic event to actually make them put on a costume. And when they do, they always quit because its too hard.

DC's heroes do the right thing...because its the right thing. Its so funny how Superman and Spider-man practically had the same upbringing, yet when clark discovered his powers, he knew he had to help others. Uncle Ben had to die for Peter to realize he had to help others. I like reading about Dc's heroes because they can inspire me to do the right thing. Marvel heroes, while they probably have more character than DC's heroes, remind me that humans are sometimes selfish and vain, and dont immediatly use whatever abilities they have to do that right thing.

What DC also has over Marvel is that they have some of the most Iconic characters ever. Marvel has some Icons like Spider-man, Hulk, and Wolverine, But DC has Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the JLA, Catwoman, Robin, and Supergirl. Anytime I find Supeman to be boring or uninteresting, I just watch the Superman film to realize that he is the Greatest superhero of all time. Not because you can relate to him(and overrated term in comics), not because he suffers, but because he the Ultimate Hero.

I also like DC's management over Marvel's. DC comes off as a mature and humble company, while marvel comes off as immature, and sometimes arrogant and annoying. It pisses me off when Joe Quesada hurls insults at DC, because thats not the way you run a company.

I like both companies though, and I dont mindlessly prefer one to the other because. I can say I can relate to Peter Parker, but that dosent mean I wont read Superman because he's not a "Real Character" I think it'd be pretty boring if all Superheroes were like marvel characters

 

[Tropico]

Originally posted by TheCorpulent1
Arsenal is sleeping with everybody in Outsiders,

DUDE!! EVERYBODY?!?!?! You mean; BatBoy sex, robot sex, elemental sex, green energy sex? An if it's everyone that has been in the title: gorilla sex, Luthor sex, demonic sex and the worst...the Joker sex?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

No, he's exercising some common sense and quite a bit of taste. So far he's added Grace and Huntress to his list of conquests. After Huntress, Nightwing asks if there's anyone he wouldn't have sex with and Arsenal says no, then asks Nightwing if he's seen the type of superwomen with bodies like goddesses that they hang out with.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

DC's making a lot of bad moves with continuity lately. The Johns and Winick books are as good about staying together with tight continuity as ever, but little things are popping up in other titles now and then. Tim still being Robin in Identity Crisis after Stephanie has already taken over in the Robin book springs to mind immediately. Also, DC has basically given continuity the finger with the new Doom Patrol and Richard Dragon books. Both of them are apparently scrapping everything about the characters and starting from scratch with no explanation and no way to fit them into current continuity convincingly. It's ******ed.

 

[Assassin]

Tim is still robin in gotham nights too

 

[Anubis]

Tim is still Robin period, he sneaks around as Robin. You saw it in Identity Crisis. So technically he's still Robin, just not really workin with the Bat at the moment. Besides, with continuity, nothing happens at the same time. So if you see something that doesn't seem in tune with the current continuity, chances are it happend before the event in question took place. Thats how that whole thing works.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh yeah, Tim's still Robin in the Batman comic as well. The one titled "Batman," I mean. He showed up last issue.

Batman's replaced and it sends ripples throughout nearly every DC comic being published. Robin's replaced and writers other than the Robin and Batgirl ones just ignore it. No respect, I tell ya.

 

[Assassin]

Who cares, i mean she is a girls :P (sarcasam)