World Trade Center thread

I won't be seeing it - and you know why? I think it looks like a contrived, sappy, Hollywood-ized version of that day. It's like looking at the PEARL HARBOR version of 9/11. I think it honestly looks terrible.

The ultimate 9/11 film has already been made, and it is called UNITED 93. Now *there* is a masterpiece that achieved the impossible.
 
Normally I would agree. But what I've been hearing is that this movie is focused on those affected by 9/11 (and makes heroes out of some individuals), instead of the usual special effects action movie.
 
Not going to see that, because honestly I have no interest about it.
 
Another review popped up.

World Trade Center Grade: B
The most controversial thing about Oliver Stone's 9/11 movie, "World Trade Center," is how conventional and simple the film is, at once an honorable commemoration of lost lives and a hopeful message saga about the indefatigable American courage.

This is not necessarily a bad thing, just a tad disappointing, coming as it is from Stone, one of the few overtly political filmmakers working today and a master of controversy, responsible for such hot-button pictures as "J.F.K.," "Natural Born Killers," and so on.

"Word Trade Center," just like "United 93," raises the question of what kinds of expectations we have--or should have--for entertainment fare about this momentously disastrous event in American history? The cycle of Hollywood movies about 9/11 has just begun and we know there will be more films if the first ones succeed at the box-office ("United 93" is considered a disappointment).

Paul Greengrass's "United 93" was more exciting to watch on purely technical and visceral levels, though I couldn't rationalize any particular reason to see the movie, since it didn't offer any new info or angle about that flight. It also suffered from being released rights after the airing of two decent TV films on the subject (both nominated for Emmys, by the way).

In contrast, "World Trade Center" has a larger scope, is less thrilling but also more emotionally felt and touching, though like Greengrass's film, it mostly recreates events, characters, and feelings, without much commentary or editorializing.

I have no doubts that some critics will raise the issue of timing, the eternal debate of whether the horrific experience of 9/11 is too close for us viewers to want to revisit and vicariously experience it in a movie-house (or TV). Arguably, 9/11 is still more shocking, harrowing, and deeply felt than the Vietnam War and anti-War movement, and I mention that because the same issues were raised regarding the tenuous relation between Hollywood and Vietnam.

It took a decade for the artistically interesting movies about Vietnam to appear, including Michael Cimino's right-winger "The Deer Hunter" and Hal Ashby's left-winger "Coming Home," which both competed for the 1978 Oscars. In fact, the screenplay for Oliver Stone's "Platoon" was written in 1975 but no studio in town would touch it. The movie was finally made in 1986 and greeted with wide acclaim, Oscar Awards, and commercial success. (See Essay)

Stone's new yarn begins on September 11, 2001, an unusually hot day in New York City, with a shot of the alarm clock pointing to 3:29am. Sergeant John McLoughlin (Nicolas Cage), a respected vet of the PAPD, had been up for hours (since 3:29am), a requirement of his daily one and a half an hour trek to the city.

Cut to Will Jimeno (Michael Pena), an officer with the Port Authority Police Department (PAPD), who is tempted to take a personal day and enjoy his hobby of bow hunting, but then decides that he would rather go to work. Unbeknownst to him, it proves to be a fatal and fateful decision. Indeed, Will and John and their colleagues makee their way to Midtown Manhattan, just like they do on any routine day, only September 11 was not any other day.

A team of PAPD first responders drive from mid-town Manhattan to the World Trade Center. Five men, including Will and John, go into the buildings themselves and get trapped when the towers collapsed. Miraculously, both men survive, though they are buried and pinned beneath slabs of concrete and twisted metal, 20 feet below the rubble field. Though they can't see each other, they know that both have survived the ordeal.

The danger is falling asleep, and hence, for the next 12 harrowing hours, Will and John keep each other alive by talking about their families, their lives on the force, their hopes and disappointments in life.

Through flashbacks, we get to see their memories of their last activities before they left home, their relationships to their loved ones, wives, children, and relatives. There are also regrets, about things they should have done or said but didn't, and promises how to change their lives, if and when they survive the ordeal.

As noted, the scale of "World Trade Center" is wider, if not deeper or more ambitious than "United 93." Stone also tell the stories of the fighters' wives, Donna McLoughlin (Maria Bello) and Allison Jimeno (Maggie Gyllenhaal), their families, and children.

In depicting a basically static situation, of two men buried in the middle of those towers for hours, Stone is concerned with the question minute-by-minute survival uner the most horrible circumstances. He suggests that, while Will and John were pushed to the edge of death, they might have survived due to deeply personal and spiritual reasons. The men would have died had they not been able to reach out and communicate with each other, and then able to find deep sources of strength in their family lives.

With the exception of one brief scene, at the end, in which they are seen walking in the same hospital corridor, Donna an Allison never meet, which is probably how things were. (For some reason, I expected them to get together once the crisis begins).

We get from the families' POVs the unbearable tension of waiting, the fear whenever a police car arrives at the door that someone might descend to inform of their loved ones' deaths, the tortured of being confined in their own circle of hell, with no message from or information about their husbands.

Through crosscutting, Stone goes back and forth between the battle zone, with the two men stuck motionless in the rubble fighting for their lives, and the home front, depicting the families, the politicians, and the news media. This strategy, often used in war movies—and "World Trade Center" is a war film—occasionally results in tedium and repetition, which may be inevitable considering the extra-effort to be faithful to the facts.

Film's turning point occurs in the last reel, when one courageously determined Marine goes down on a mission and finds the two men alive. Stone and his producers dwell on the specificities as well as generalities of the story, namely, they use this particular rescue mission to comment on the uniquely American traits of courage, strength, and hope, and how protecting those cherished values calls for personal risks and great costs.

Stone has said that, "Being entrusted with this story by the real people dictated my responsibility to be as authentic and accurate as possible at all times, to get it right." He might have gotten it right, but his filmic imagination must have been constrained by these conditions. (Writing this, I realize that I open myself to criticism, but that's the way I feel when evaluating "World Trade Center" not as an illustrated news event, but as an art work with all the relevant properties involved).

On a strictly technical level, the filmmaking is good. Stone, a native New Yorker, has not shot extensively in the Big Apple since "Wall Street," in 1987. With the help of his gifted cinematographer, he seems invigorated to do a more realistic movie about "average" New Yorkers, policemen, firemen, and other working-class residents, particularly after the disastrously operatic and psychedelic epic "Alexander."

Digging deep into the hole, literally and figuratively, Stone depicts two men in the darkest hours of their lives, hardly knowing each other and yet intimately bonded together by their experience—the survival of one depends on that of the other's.

We know that Will and John are not much concerned with politics or terrorism, because they seldom talk about them. The movie is about courage, survival, and the indomitable will to live. "World Trade Center" is thus not a political film, but more of a human story, and one of the strongest reaffirmation to be seen in years of the American family as the bastion of good values.

End note

"World Trade Center" began its cinematic life when the producer Debra Hill read about McLoughlin and Jimeno in a newspaper article and decided to meet with them. The movie would become Hill's last film credit, when in 2005, after a long fight, she succumbed to cancer.

http://emanuellevy.com/article.php?articleID=2904
 
Police "Too Traumatized" To Watch Stone Movie

Police and firefighters who risked their lives on September 11th 2001 have been invited to private screenings of Oliver Stone's forthcoming movie World Trade Center, although they have been warned the experience might prove traumatic. The filmmaker's harrowing movie tells the story of two cops trapped in the remains of New York's Twin Towers for 22 hours following their collapse. The New York Post reports police and firefighters have been invited to private screenings this week. However, the union representing the Port Authority Of New York and New Jersey police officers have warned Ground Zero rescuers could find the movie traumatic and it could lead to post-traumatic stress disorder. The film's producer Michael Shamberg says, "Emotionally, it's important that these men and women have the opportunity to see the film first, though only if they feel comfortable."

http://imdb.com/news/wenn/2006-07-20/#3
 
I'm not seeing it. Not because I object to the material being made into a movie, which I suppose I do object to a bit, but I'm just not interested. I lived through that day. I know what happened. I have no need to see it happen again in movie form. It could be the most incredible movie in the world, and I wouldn't care, because I just don't care about the movie.
 
I'm not seeing it because I don't approve of Hollywood making money off of such a terrible event. Go ahead and call me a movie snob or whatever, but unless the all the money goes to help the 9/11 effects then it's just Hollywood being greedy.
 
No interest, at least not enough to pay. I'm in California. Can't say I felt affected.
 
Don't think I'm gonna see it. I might but it's highly improbable.
 
Do some research on 9/11 and then consider going to see the movie.

universalseed.org
 
i think that nited 93 shouldn't have been made and neither should this one.
 
I'd just like to say what most everyone is thinking...too soon :o
 
There isn't a movie plot in the event, it's just gonna be a sensationalized documentry and we have plenty of documentries already without movie stars.
 
It's more or less about what happens between the two firefighters stuck under the rubble. It doesn't focus on the horror of that day, just on the two men who risked their lives that day.
 
WorthyStevens4 said:
It's more or less about what happens between the two firefighters stuck under the rubble. It doesn't focus on the horror of that day, just on the two men who risked their lives that day.
Well I know their story, I've been in a play about it.
 
Unless we have an unexpected number of 4 year olds posting on this board, nobody needs to know whether anybody here "lived through that day" or not. That isn't the point obviously. You didn't "live through" the experiences of the 2 main characters the movie is about or their families.
 
I didn't go to see United 93 and I doubt I'll go to see this.
I hate to sit and sob in the theater,it's just too embarassing :(
 
My favorite review of WTC so far. :up:

Everyone in America remembers where they were the day the World Trade Center was struck by two airplanes and then later collapsed. It was a defining moment in U.S. history, much like the Kennedy Assassination and Neil Armstrong walking on the moon. Oliver Stone has brilliantly captured that day and brought to life all the trauma, fear, anger and heroism that came with it.

Watching World Trade Center is like reliving the day. Instead of being a passive observer watching a TV set in the safety of your home or office, you are in the middle of the experience, a part of the events as they unfold. Screenwriter Andrea Berloff and director Oliver Stone explore the day with intense realism, without ever being flashy or grandiose.

World Trade Center focuses on John McLoughlin (Nicolas Cage) and Will Jimeno (Michael Pena), two Port Authority officers that are among the first to arrive at the WTC before it collapses. They are trapped under tons of rubble and must rely on each other to survive. Outside, their wives and families can only sit and wait for word on what is happening. Only twenty people are found alive in the debris of the World Trade Center; John and Will are numbers eighteen and nineteen.

Stone shows not only what is happening in and around the World Trade Center, but gives us a chance to relive the day ourselves by showing people all over the world transfixed by the events unfolding on television and trying to make some sense of what has happened. The film takes us back to the day and allows each of us to connect with this common event. In this way, the film becomes more than just another movie but moves into a collective moment where everyone in the audience can relate to the person beside them.

The emotional impact of the film doesn’t come from some Spielbergian moment of heartfelt sentiment, but out of the real and basic human impact the attack had. It changed the world in which we all live. Ultimately, it’s the small moments of the film that really drive that home: Donna McLoughlin (Maria Bello) looking at the tools in her husband’s shed; Allison Jimeno (Maggie Gyllenhaal) walking down the street trying to escape her family and have a moment to herself to make sense of it all. These are the moments that bring a tear to your eye as you can simply relate to what these people must be feeling.

Oliver Stone returns to his filmmaking roots with World Trade Center. Gone are the showy gimmicks that have become his signature for the past fifteen years. Fans of Salvador and Platoon will instantly recognize Stone as the master filmmaker he can be. The cynicism that he is known for isn’t prevalent here either — he goes for realism and allows the people to just be who they are, instead of trying to pass judgment on them.

This is an ensemble film just like last year’s Crash. While everyone does a wonderful job, no one is given the chance to showboat. Nicolas Cage redeems himself with this role. It must have been tough for him to film as he can do little more than blink for most of the movie. Michael Pena shines as the center of the film, providing an emotional core to the story. His struggle becomes our struggle as he tries to keep himself and his partner alive. Maggie Gyllenhaal also stands out as Pena’s wife — she helps us connect to the outside world as she struggles to understand the events of the day.

Craig Armstrong’s remarkable score doesn’t overpower the film. At no point does the music become distracting or annoying. Instead, it blends perfectly into the images you’re watching and adds even more weight to the film.

After the horrible failure of Alexander, Stone looked washed up. He proves once again that he is one of the best filmmakers working today. It’s a shame World Trade Center is being released in August, as its heavy subject matter seems a better fit for a winter release. Flight 93 was just a precursor to this—America proved they were ready for that film and they will be ready for this one too. World Trade Center is a powerful film that will have even the hardest of hearts weeping.

http://www.popsyndicate.com/index.php/site/story/world_trade_center/
 
I might go see it. Personally I dont think it stoo soon. I can see that some people have a problem with it and thats fine, they dont have to watch it.

Personally I see it as another stage of dealing with what hapened.

I might just go see it for Nic Cages Moustache anyway.
 
Too soon. I hate reliving it, and I def won't want to do that at a theatre. I'll wait for DVD.
 

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