🇷🇺🇺🇦 Discussion: Relations with Russia and the war in Ukraine

[squeekness]

Putin forces 76,000 Russians to evacuate as Ukraine launches surprise offensive

Vladimir Putin has been forced to evacuate 76,000 people living in Kursk as Ukraine continues its offensive approach, as the nation attempts to invade Russia for the first time since World War Two

www.mirror.co.uk

Karma! You get what you give!

 

[blueharvest]

Veteran human rights advocate freed in swap says Russia is sliding back toward Stalinist times

A human rights activist, Oleg Orlov thought Russia had turned a corner when the Soviet Union collapsed and a democratically elected president became leader.

apnews.com

 

[:eek:]

Ukraine takes control of gas plant and Russian town

Ukrainian soldiers claiming to be from the 61st Brigade were filmed standing outside a local Gazprom facility in the town of Sudzha which is about 10 kilometers from the Ukraine border.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Iceman]

Ukraine takes control of gas plant and Russian town

Ukrainian soldiers claiming to be from the 61st Brigade were filmed standing outside a local Gazprom facility in the town of Sudzha which is about 10 kilometers from the Ukraine border.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This will turn into a big problem for Putin unless he can secure the town soon. It's going to be tough for even Russian State TV to make this not look like bad news. Citizens are going to doubt the power Russia still has when a special operation becomes a war lasting years and even after years they get invaded themselves by the smaller country.

 

[blueharvest]

Russia claims to have thwarted Ukraine’s advance in Kursk

Fighting said to be continuing, with reports of power outages near nuclear power station, despite Moscow’s claim

www.theguardian.com

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Iceman]

I hope they can achieve at least that before Putin gets his act together defensively.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[squeekness]

This will turn into a big problem for Putin unless he can secure the town soon. It's going to be tough for even Russian State TV to make this not look like bad news. Citizens are going to doubt the power Russia still has when a special operation becomes a war lasting years and even after years they get invaded themselves by the smaller country.

I'd like to see this turn the people against Putin, but if these guys are cruel, it might turn the Russians against the Ukraininans.

 

[Iceman]

I'd like to see this turn the people against Putin, but if these guys are cruel, it might turn the Russians against the Ukraininans.

No need to be excessively cruel (beyond displacing people), just progress military objectives and capture assets. Putin is the one that has dragged civilians into an unnecessary war, but I’d still prefer they all got away to safety and were unhurt aside from property damage to the area which is likely inevitable. Probably being too optimistic but I’m not going to celebrate civilians getting affected while at the same time wanting the situation to get as bad as possible for Putin.

 

[squeekness]

No need to be excessively cruel (beyond displacing people), just progress military objectives and capture assets. Putin is the one that has dragged civilians into an unnecessary war, but I’d still prefer they all got away to safety and were unhurt aside from property damage to the area which is likely inevitable. Probably being too optimistic but I’m not going to celebrate civilians getting affected while at the same time wanting the situation to get as bad as possible for Putin.

Ukrainians treating Russians humanely would be a smack in Putin's face. I just worry they will take revenge because Russian soldiers have committed so many crimes.

 

[Iceman]

Ukraine troops now up to 30km inside Russia's Kursk region, Moscow says

Russia's defence ministry said it had engaged in fighting near two villages, some 25-30km inside Russia.

www.bbc.co.uk

“A senior Ukrainian official told the AFP news agency that thousands of troops were engaged in the operation, far more than the small incursion initially reported by Russian border guards.”

Looks like a significant move that will take considerable efforts to deter.

 

[Sithborg]

Ukrainians treating Russians humanely would be a smack in Putin's face. I just worry they will take revenge because Russian soldiers have committed so many crimes.

I mean, the bar is pretty low. Pretty sure the Ukranians aren't digging mass graves.

 

[squeekness]

I mean, the bar is pretty low. Pretty sure the Ukranians aren't digging mass graves.

I hope not!

 

[Sithborg]

Welp, the Russians may have started a fire at the Zaporizhzha nuclear power plant. Always a good thing to see a cooling tower on fire.

 

[squeekness]

Welp, the Russians may have started a fire at the Zaporizhzha nuclear power plant. Always a good thing to see a cooling tower on fire.

Nice. These idiots don't have one clue.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[blueharvest]

Ukraine’s foray into Russia’s border region embarrasses Putin. How will it affect the course of war?

A swift Ukrainian incursion into Russia’s Kursk region was the largest such cross-border raid by Kyiv’s forces in the nearly 2½-year war.

apnews.com

 

[Morg]

Russia complained that its 'peaceful' people don't deserve to be invaded​

Russia complained that its 'peaceful' people don't deserve to be invaded

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

I haven’t always agreed with General Hayden …


I think this a meme.

 

[Sithborg]

Even worse, one of their "friends" may get ideas.

 

[blueharvest]

Ukraine says it has seized 1,000 sq km in Kursk offensive as Putin vows ‘worthy response’

Claim by Kyiv comes as Russian official admits Ukraine has seized 28 settlements during attack on border region

www.theguardian.com

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Zelenskyy: "It Is Now Clear What the End Is for [Putin]. It's Kursk. The Catastrophe of His War"

In his address, Zelenskyy compared Russia's Kursk disaster 24 years ago to the current turmoil, suggesting it marks the end of Putin's rule amid the ongoing conflict.

united24media.com

Reuters - Putin says Ukraine wants to destabilise Russia with Kursk offensive