2005-2006 NBA thread

[Ultimate_Superman]

I'll give it up to the Heat they didn't crack under the pressure and they showed that they wanted that game more. Though I wish this were the Wizards I will say that the Heat are putting on a very good show and the calls in the game are fair. As I said before Dallas can't play D. Their way of playing D is slapping your hands. Dallas is more of a team that lives and dies by the 3 and trys to out score you reather then play an all around game. Also if the Heat hit their FT this game wouldn't have even been close they would have won by about 15.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Also to Sunrise I got two words for you

David Hasselhoff

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

yup just showing clarification. It was a foul, but i dont think you call that in that situation

How is that a weak foul????? You have one man grabbing his arm another pushing him. I mean come on what more do need that was the right call because if they didn't foul him Wade would have made the shot.

 

[Soundwave]

Can we quit with the name-calling and b*tching please?

Look, I am a die-hard Mavs fan and i am just as disappointed as anyone with what has occurred. I'm not ready to jump ship and claim this series is over. I fully expect the Mavs to win the last 2 games at home and claim the championship. I don't believe Miami to be the superior team, think they have just been the more poised team down the stretch. I don't necessarily agree with that last foul call on Dwayne Wade but that's life in the NBA - superstars will usually get the benefit of the doubt. I also don't agree with Stackhouse's suspension but i'm not going to cry about it and say there's a conspiracy. Anyone who says there is a conspiracy is delusional and a moron. The Mavs have done enough bonehead things on their own to lose these games. Any team that wins a championship has to overcome obstacles. Miami has had to overcome Shaq's poor free throw shooting, and Wade's injury. The Mavs have to overcome suspensions, Dirk's mediocre play and Dwayne Wade's ascension to legendary status if they are to win a championship. These last two home games will show exactly what the mavs are made of. This is the same Mavs team that went on the road in Game 7 and beat the champs on their own home hourt so I definitely believe they can win 2 home games in a row from the Heat. It has been a fun ride and I'm enjoying every minute of it and i believe it will end with Stern handing Cuban the Larry O'brien trophy on Thursday night. : )

 

[Jplaya2023]

How is that a weak foul????? You have one man grabbing his arm another pushing him. I mean come on what more do need that was the right call because if they didn't foul him Wade would have made the shot.

You just cant make that kind of call in that situation.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

You just cant make that kind of call in that situation.

yes you can if it has game changing effects like the foul they did had. I mean they mugged him for the ball. Look at the photos one is pushing him in the back the other has his shooting arm. That is a cause to call for the foul because you know Wade would have made the basket if not for that. Hell he almost made it even though they fouled him though Shaq was at the other side and had everyone boxed out waiting for the rebound.

 

[Mister J]

I'm glad some Mavs fans still have some perspective. Sunrise has been the only one spouting nonsense and insults and hopefully he'll stick to his word and stay away.

No way is this series over yet. Miami will need to play way better than Games 1 and 2 to close this thing out. They're not going in over-confident. They just experienced, first-hand, what a home court advantage can do. The Heatians will need to defend the perimeter with big-time intensity (somebody, please do something about Jason Terry ) and make some free throws for cryin' out loud.

This has been a hell of a series and I don't expect Dallas to just fade away at home.

 

[Prognosticator]

I'm going to have to regurgitate my words after last Sunday's game. I thought the Mavs would role this series in 5 games, but this whole week I was slowly proved wrong...It'll be a 7 game series I honestly believe now. And not that the Heat don't have a great chance b/c they DO...But the more comentary and post-game analysis I watched last night, and the more sports radio I listened to this morning, "OUCH!!!" The officials are SPOILING this series, and it may be tainted b/c of them

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Greetings all,

Where do I start? Well, I apologize for snapping and just losing my cool entirely. I know it made me look like an idiot, a child, and just gives the perspective of someone who is not getting paid at all for this at all.

I apologize to Mister J. Go Web Go, Maximum Carnage, the mods, and Cmill for snapping and calling them profane and obscene names. It wasn't mature of me and I realize it made me look like a moronic fool.

I was wrong in snapping and allowing my emotions to get the best of me. I don't own the Mavericks, I don't play for them, and I'm not the coach. There's no reason for me to be acting the way I did.

Although, I do stand by my belief that the series is fixed, and I will not be backing away from that notion until I'm proven otherwise. I looked at the calls and Miami, as a whole, went to the line 49 times and Dallas 20. Half of those calls going to Wade and him getting his points from the line. I still believe that he is the new poster child for the NBA, and that $tern, the league, and the officials on the floor will do anything to make sure he looks like a superstar.

Wade only had one foul the entire game, which is outright sad and laughable. A foul is not jumping into another player, a foul is not having someone breath on you, and a foul is not running into the lane throwing your arms up and acting to get a call.

I'm not letting Dallas off the hook either. They had chance after chance to close it out and they choked when it counted.

Do I think it's over? I'm about 50/50 on it to be honest. One says that Dallas had their chance and they're collapsing at the wrong time, the other half says that two are in Dallas and that it's possible for a victory. But the pressure is on Dallas and the Heat will come out strong this Tuesday.

I long for the days when the NBA was about competition, integrity, and dignity. Where both respective teams played their hearts out and the league officials didn't determine who won or lost due to popularity.

I believe that the games in Miami were about playing favorites and the three games prove it.

But again, I apologize for my actions and I understand they were created out of stupidity and immaturity.

PS: I don't understand the Hasselhoff picture? What is the meaning of it?

 

[Cmill216]

Greetings all,

Where do I start? Well, I apologize for snapping and just losing my cool entirely. I know it made me look like an idiot, a child, and just gives the perspective of someone who is not getting paid at all for this at all.

I apologize to Mister J. Go Web Go, Maximum Carnage, the mods, and Cmill for snapping and calling them profane and obscene names. It wasn't mature of me and I realize it made me look like a moronic fool.

I was wrong in snapping and allowing my emotions to get the best of me. I don't own the Mavericks, I don't play for them, and I'm not the coach. There's no reason for me to be acting the way I did.

Although, I do stand by my belief that the series is fixed, and I will not be backing away from that notion until I'm proven otherwise. I looked at the calls and Miami, as a whole, went to the line 49 times and Dallas 20. Half of those calls going to Wade and him getting his points from the line. I still believe that he is the new poster child for the NBA, and that $tern, the league, and the officials on the floor will do anything to make sure he looks like a superstar.

Wade only had one foul the entire game, which is outright sad and laughable. A foul is not jumping into another player, a foul is not having someone breath on you, and a foul is not running into the lane throwing your arms up and acting to get a call.

I'm not letting Dallas off the hook either. They had chance after chance to close it out and they choked when it counted.

Do I think it's over? I'm about 50/50 on it to be honest. One says that Dallas had their chance and they're collapsing at the wrong time, the other half says that two are in Dallas and that it's possible for a victory. But the pressure is on Dallas and the Heat will come out strong this Tuesday.

I long for the days when the NBA was about competition, integrity, and dignity. Where both respective teams played their hearts out and the league officials didn't determine who won or lost due to popularity.

I believe that the games in Miami were about playing favorites and the three games prove it.

But again, I apologize for my actions and I understand they were created out of stupidity and immaturity.

PS: I don't understand the Hasselhoff picture? What is the meaning of it?

While I disagree with your beliefs, that is classy of you to apologize.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Sunrise - I think everyone here ( if they love competition) can say they have, had the Jekyll & Hyde experience. it's cool. I juse really hope it doesn't happen again.

 

[DOG LIPS]

I hate to think it's rigged when stupid crap happens, and of course it goes DOUBLE when it happens to your fav team, but what are you going to do? If you keep screaming rigged you're not going to enjoy the games. Besides, if it is rigged, sooner or later your team will need some money pumped into the city, or need a star risen, so you'll get your chance.

I kid.

 

[samurai black]

Can we quit with the name-calling and b*tching please?

Look, I am a die-hard Mavs fan and i am just as disappointed as anyone with what has occurred. I'm not ready to jump ship and claim this series is over. I fully expect the Mavs to win the last 2 games at home and claim the championship. I don't believe Miami to be the superior team, think they have just been the more poised team down the stretch. I don't necessarily agree with that last foul call on Dwayne Wade but that's life in the NBA - superstars will usually get the benefit of the doubt. I also don't agree with Stackhouse's suspension but i'm not going to cry about it and say there's a conspiracy. Anyone who says there is a conspiracy is delusional and a moron. The Mavs have done enough bonehead things on their own to lose these games. Any team that wins a championship has to overcome obstacles. Miami has had to overcome Shaq's poor free throw shooting, and Wade's injury. The Mavs have to overcome suspensions, Dirk's mediocre play and Dwayne Wade's ascension to legendary status if they are to win a championship. These last two home games will show exactly what the mavs are made of. This is the same Mavs team that went on the road in Game 7 and beat the champs on their own home hourt so I definitely believe they can win 2 home games in a row from the Heat. It has been a fun ride and I'm enjoying every minute of it and i believe it will end with Stern handing Cuban the Larry O'brien trophy on Thursday night. : )

It's always good to see people stay positive in the face of overwhemling odds.it's only been a fun ride these last 3 games. I agree with some of your points. Yes, if a team wants to be considered the best, then they have to prove it no matter what. Last year, i hated the fact that some of my fellows heat fans said that the only we weren't in the finals was bc dwayne wade was hurt. No we weren't in them bc detroit wanted it more. They kicked our a**es! But this year we got payback. Yeah, the stackhouse suspension was questionable (especially in a pivotal game 5) but i'm sure that was the last thing on dirk's and howard's mind when they choked on their free throws. Speaking of Dirk, at first i thought he was the best player overall in the playoffs. But look at him now. He stunk it up just as bad as wade did in FG%, but wade did something he didn't. HE ADJUSTED!! His shot wasn't fallin, so he took it to the hoop and tried to create. It's just good basketball. Given that i don't think any of the heat can guard dirk 1on1, he should've been going strong to the hole like he did in the spurs series. Although he did hit crucial shots at the end, he's not living up to his rep. He's the star of the team!. I laughed when Hubie said that in his opinion the finals MVP during the 1st 2 games was Dirk. WHAT ABOUT THE JET!! Jason Terry has been damn near unstoppable from beyond the arc, is going right in at shaq(with that crazy floater) and is making ALL his damn freethrows. That's who we're afraid of down here on south beach. We got dirk's#. I'll be glad to see stack back in the line-up tues, it'll make beating the winning that much sweeter. It will be a great game to watch, but i think we all know now who's the better team. H-E-A-T!!!

 

[Mister J]

Sunrise, I'm still not buying the conspiracy theory, but it's cool of you to come back like you did. Welcome back to sanity.

Btw, the David Hasselhoff thing is in reference to Dirk. Apparantly, ol' Knight Rider's music is big in Germany and Nowitski has said he hums/sings Hasselhoff songs when he's at the free throw line. As a result, the Miami crowd chanted that name when Dirk was at the line and people have been showing that hideous picture of him (DH) in a speedo or whatever. *blech*

In other news, Dirk got fined $5,000 for his impromptu tryout as an NFL punter. Cubes would seem to be next in line to contribute. I knew he got into it with some fans, the refs and some reporters, but apparantly he was screaming at Stern and some other League officials.

 

[KALEL114]

I am sticking by my team. We will regroup and throw everything we have at the Heat. Miami better be prepared to score in triple digits again to win. Go Mavs!

 

[Ghostvirus]

I personally feel that the Heat have to win Game 6. I really don't think they can pull off a game 7 at Dallas.

 

[U.S War Machine]

Thts where your wrong cuz there gonna bring the heat to dallas my friend.

 

[Cmill216]

I personally feel that the Heat have to win Game 6. I really don't think they can pull off a game 7 at Dallas.

I feel the same way.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Sunrise, I'm still not buying the conspiracy theory, but it's cool of you to come back like you did. Welcome back to sanity.

Btw, the David Hasselhoff thing is in reference to Dirk. Apparantly, ol' Knight Rider's music is big in Germany and Nowitski has said he hums/sings Hasselhoff songs when he's at the free throw line. As a result, the Miami crowd chanted that name when Dirk was at the line and people have been showing that hideous picture of him (DH) in a speedo or whatever. *blech*

In other news, Dirk got fined $5,000 for his impromptu tryout as an NFL punter. Cubes would seem to be next in line to contribute. I knew he got into it with some fans, the refs and some reporters, but apparantly he was screaming at Stern and some other League officials.

They really wanted to scare him they should've held a case of Shaq's "Steel" and "Kazam".



I have a prediction to make. If the Heat win tomorrow, I fully expect Shaq to go back to his Kobe bashing mode.

 

[Jplaya2023]

mavs gonna get in that heat ass tommorrow, jet terry bout to muder these nikkas

* 4 finger salute to jet terry nikka's*

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I just finished watching a bit with Stephen A. Smith's "Quite Frankly" and he had Cutino Mobley, Damon Jones, and Mark AcQuire(spelling?) on there as his panelists.

All panelists said that Stackhouse shouldn't have been suspended and that the foul wasn't a malicious or dangerous foul, as Shaq has done that all of his career with no punishment.

But they did mention one thing that I agree with. Dallas needs to get into the paint, get calls, and make their free throws. It doesn't help that Dirk and Howard are clanking clutch free throws. Let's face it, every point counts in the finals and whether you can get them by three pointers, two pointers, or free throws, those shots are vital and are very necessary to make in these situations.

I'm still 50/50 on whether or not Dallas will win tomorrow. They can either completely meltdown tomorrow and be embarassed, or they can return with a hunger that shows they really want the trophy.

I will say this. I hope the $tern and the league let the players play tomorrow. I don't want to see any ticky tack or phantom calls. Let the players decide who wins or goes home tomorrow.

If Dallas wants it they'll win; if Miami wants it, they'll win tomorrow as well. Either way it'll be an interesting game.

 

[Cmill216]

I just finished watching a bit with Stephen A. Smith's "Quite Frankly" and he had Cutino Mobley, Damon Jones, and Mark AcQuire(spelling?) on there as his panelists.

All panelists said that Stackhouse shouldn't have been suspended and that the foul wasn't a malicious or dangerous foul, as Shaq has done that all of his career with no punishment.

As someone pulling for the Heat, I have to say that I was surprised by the suspension and thought it was unnecessary. This is the f***in' NBA Finals. The Mavs should not be penalized as a team for one single hard foul. Maybe a fine (at the maximum) but suspending him was the wrong thing to do.

But they did mention one thing that I agree with. Dallas needs to get into the paint, get calls, and make their free throws. It doesn't help that Dirk and Howard are clanking clutch free throws. Let's face it, every point counts in the finals and whether you can get them by three pointers, two pointers, or free throws, those shots are vital and are very necessary to make in these situations.

Dallas did not even get to the line in the 3rd quarter (which is bad), however they did hit, like, 19/19 before the choke job misses by Howard, and the misses by Dampier and Dirk.

I'm still 50/50 on whether or not Dallas will win tomorrow. They can either completely meltdown tomorrow and be embarassed, or they can return with a hunger that shows they really want the trophy.

I will say this. I hope the $tern and the league let the players play tomorrow. I don't want to see any ticky tack or phantom calls. Let the players decide who wins or goes home tomorrow.

If Dallas wants it they'll win; if Miami wants it, they'll win tomorrow as well. Either way it'll be an interesting game.

IMO, Miami can't afford to go to a Game 7. I doubt they could win it.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Sunrise - Show me a game in any sport that there wasn't bad calls by the refs, & I will personally introduce you to god himself!

 

[DOG LIPS]

Sunrise - Show me a game in any sport that there wasn't bad calls by the refs, & I will personally introduce you to god himself!

Golf.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

As someone pulling for the Heat, I have to say that I was surprised by the suspension and thought it was unnecessary. This is the f***in' NBA Finals. The Mavs should not be penalized as a team for one single hard foul. Maybe a fine (at the maximum) but suspending him was the wrong thing to do.



Dallas did not even get to the line in the 3rd quarter (which is bad), however they did hit, like, 19/19 before the choke job misses by Howard, and the misses by Dampier and Dirk.



IMO, Miami can't afford to go to a Game 7. I doubt they could win it.

We'll see. I mean, anything is liable to happen obviously, either way Cmill the pressure is on Dallas. Even if the Heat lose tomorrow, they still can come out strong in the next game and give it their all.

I hope Dampier isn't at the line with the game on the line tomorrow.

Then again, I know you hope he is too.