9/11 in comics

[i'm Spider-Man]

I just realised today's date - one of things where you wake up, and are doing your regular things as you normally do until you realise something and instantly feel guilty for it.

Weirdly, for me, one of the things i always think about around 9/11 is the Amazing Spider-Man special issue. Personally, I found it really touching, but as a Brit I always wondered how it was recieved in America - And how 9/11 was portrayed in other comics. Did DC choose to mark the day in a similar fashion?


- ISM.

 

[symbioticspaz]

I think it was a good idea, and it was something that, in a way, was needed. I thought it was cool to show everyone coming together. I was also glad to see how quickly it came out. Call me out if I'm wrong, but December is a pretty good turn around for something like that.

I know someone is gonna want to lynch me for this, but after 9/11, patriotism became a fad. Everyone had a flag on their cars, houses, buttons, etc.......But I think this comic was one of those things that just had to be done.

 

[Fading]

I honestly had no problem with the Spiderman issue. Marvel has always been tied to the real world, and for the characters to never make a reaction like everything was normal may have felt more akward, I think it paid a nice tribute, and was nothing like the Green Goblin or something destroying them. And the pics of him looking like an ant standing next to the real hero's (firemen/cops) was a powerful scene.

On the other hand what does get me is how Hollywood seems to like to exploit it. Don't get me wrong, I know the proceeds to the movies (well some of the proceeds) go to the families, but last year we had 2 9/11 movies, and several TV movies. Someone in Hollywood's making a buck off of a tragedy, heck Pearl Harbor movie didn't even come out til years and years later. Not that I think it's too soon, because a loss of life is always sad no matter how many years, but I just hate the thought of something being made to make a buck like that. The Spidey issue was more for saluting the Firemen, and dealing with a real world issue in the fake comic world that deals with real world issues.

Not a rant or anything, guess just saying no problem with someone paying tribute to those who died as long as it's tasteful.

As for patrisim as a fad, won't call ya on it because for some it's true. Right after it happened everyone was one, political crap was just that, crap, everyone was of one mind. But ya since then things have boiled back down to finger pointing, and political crap, and most have taken their flags back down. To me I see it (not just because it's a comic board), but like Cap lol. America is home, I'll cheer as loud as anyone and if need be take a bullet for another, been like that since I was little (tho I'm not military or anything, just saying I would if it came down to it). But I'm not really a blind follower of Government either, if they do something right awesome, but like I've quoted before "The first generation not to fight for their liberties lose them." So I'm more for cheering for our ideals and ppl, and some things the Government has done lately makes it hard to cheer for them. Maybe some of you agree and feel the same or that ticked at that lol, but I think that's part of it. We were altogether right after 9/11, but then once politics, war, and Government chipping away at certain freedoms, just took the wind out of our sails a bit IMO.

Sry I took it away from comics and more real world stuff lol, couldn't help it.

 

[Marcdachamp]

Heroes and Amazing Spider-Man #36 will always hold a special place in my collection. 9/11 took all of us by surprise, and the ramifications are still being felt 5 years later. These two works really surprised me. They were both filled with heart and compassion; it showed us just how much this affected us all. They weren't meant to make a quick buck, they were meant to raise money and pay tribute to those who lost their lives.

I kind of feel bad for DC. The day after September 11th, they released a Superman comic where the WTC was trashed during a battle. Just one of those things where timing hurts. They offered a full refund, but I'm sure many people were still a little hurt (even if it was 100% innocent).

That having been said, I really feel that the 9/11 movies have come out way too soon.

 

[Fading]

I kind of feel bad for DC. The day after September 11th, they released a Superman comic where the WTC was trashed during a battle. Just one of those things where timing hurts. They offered a full refund, but I'm sure many people were still a little hurt (even if it was 100% innocent).

Ya, bad timing, but I think most ppl understood. Tho I do find it odd that that happened to be the buildings being trashed in that issue, tho I know they wrote and had drawn it long before hand. Just one of those sad coincidences.

 

[twylight]

DC must have published something..

*runs off to look*

 

[Phaedrus45]

I'm listening to Howard Stern on Sirius today. He's replaying the show from 9/11/2001. It really brings it all back, brings back all the emotions and feeling of helplessness during that day.

Yesterday, I went to see World Trade Center before it left the one theater still showing it. Four teens were in the movie, and their lack of respect made me wonder why they bothered to pay full price for a movie they clearly couldn't comprehend the emotions behind. Throughout the film, they were playing with their cellphones, getting up constantly, and just talking and laughing at times. And, people wonder why people aren't going to the cinema anymore???

 

[Phaedrus45]

I posted this in Misc. Comics last week, and find it very eerie.

 

[Marcdachamp]

I posted this in Misc. Comics last week, and find it very eerie.

Wow. That's pretty creepy.

 

[MyPokerShirt]

I think marvel had to do an issue of it because of their grounding in real life and their sliding time-scale. The way it works means that one day, not so far from now, 9/11 will have its 16th anniversary and spider-man would have been around in the marvel universe for, say... 15 years. or something like that. so it's important they made it in happen in their world too, cos then future characters can be influenced by it as much as the rest of us were. One day they'll have to make out these characters GREW UP with it.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

DC did something with Superman and had Alex Ross do the art work where Superman and Krypto were looking at the fire fighters and police.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

 

[i'm Spider-Man]

wow, they're pretty powerful images right there.

I can imagine people having back catalogues of various issues from over the years, within that collection the WTC probably pops up a few times in the stories for whatever reason... And reading them today, when they're no longer there, is incredibly jarring..

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

DC had two special volumes, and there was a Dawn comic called I Love NY.

That said, I teared up when I read Marvel's works when they came out. They were nicely done. Really hit me considerin' I had a front row seat fer th' events of that day. Now that I type this, I realize I never did read th' non-Marvel tributes. Should correct that soon...

As fer patriotism as a fad, that's absolutely correct. You had yer real patriots an' then people who became patriots in th' wake of all this. Me, I'm a NYer born and raised, so that's where I was hit. Th' country wasn't attacked, my HOME was attacked. MY backyard. And when ya love where ya live it gets ya hard.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

As messed up as it sounds, I totally forgot about that day yesterday.

 

[citizenpain]

 

[i'm Spider-Man]

Wolverine, I can sort of empathise with what you're saying. I was supposed to go on a school trip on July 7th last year... then just as we're about to leave, we're told we can't go because the entire underground network's been closed down and a bus has been blown up. Bear in mind, my Dad works primarily in London, and that particular day my Mum was due to visit her sister in town (with my little cousin), as well as just me heading there on a trip. As news trickled in from people whose phones would connect, I was quickly reduced to my first ever panic attack. Ran home, literally flat out for fifteen minutes, and nearly snapped the lock off my front door trying to get in only to find everyone safe and sound in the front room!

Not knowing where my parents were, if they were even alive, was bad enough, but to be in your scenario, especially considering it was a much more MASSIVE extent than the 7/7 bombings... that i can only imagine.

as for the Patriotism as a fad thing... it's hard to tell if it came down to a sense of guilt, or unification, or loneliness... But clearly to many people their definition of patriotism was forever changed.

 

[symbioticspaz]

I honestly thought I was gonna get myself a new ass**** for the patriotism comment. I never knew that people agreed with me. I guess I just talk to a lot of morons or something.

I see and understand how hard that was, but I feel I would never truly know what it was like. Living in the midwest, nothing happens here. A lot of snow, and the occasional tornado. A true disaster is not something I have experienced, nor do I hope to. But my hat is off to anyone thats gone through it, because it can only make them stronger.

To me, #36 is a lot more than pen and paper

 

[Fading]

I honestly thought I was gonna get myself a new ass**** for the patriotism comment. I never knew that people agreed with me. I guess I just talk to a lot of morons or something.

I see and understand how hard that was, but I feel I would never truly know what it was like. Living in the midwest, nothing happens here. A lot of snow, and the occasional tornado. A true disaster is not something I have experienced, nor do I hope to. But my hat is off to anyone thats gone through it, because it can only make them stronger.

To me, #36 is a lot more than pen and paper

Don't think anyone would **** on ya for that, becuase it is true with some. I think it's safe to say most of us take the U.S. for granted, we don't think how lucky we are to be born here with so much freedom, and sometimes it takes a jolt like that to make you realise it might not always be there. Same with me on nothing major like that happening in Indiana (atleast I hope it doesn't ever), with the most happening is Tornado's, floods, heavy snow, and occasional bad lightning. Couldn't imagine living in NY when that happened, and waking up the next day wondering what was going to happen next. I def salute the soldiers, cops, firemen, and NY ppl that day.

On the other hand like said above it is a fad to some, and a lot have gone back to normal. Some are scumbags too, like the ones who took money for 'donations' to 9/11 families, and just pocketed it, same happened with Katrina. I know some won't see the similarity, but to me it's like Weekend Christians as I call 'em. The ones who hold up a $20 so everyone can see when they put it in offering. Joke with the preacher and elders, brag to everyone in church, nod and seem to be listening tenatively during a surmon. Then second church is over their the first out the door, and don't give religion or God a second thought throughout the week. Or when asked if they are religious they don't respond or deny it. Same principal here, there are ppl that fly the flag high, salute the soldiers, and sing the national athem in public. Yet some of those same ppl's kids don't know 2 words of the Pledge of Aliegence, and others even bash the troops. Some talk about everyone being together after 9/11, then walk past a homeless man in need, or argue over meaningless politics.

With saying that tho, gotta admit with being young still (23), I haven't seen a lot, but haven't been more proud in my life to be an American than seeing everyones reactions and patriotism when that happened and the weeks after. Think we just need to be reminded of the struggle ppl went thru to build this country, and those who died, and not just say it, but think about it. I'm one of the ppl who need to be more greatful admittedly...sry going on too much again lol. Me and my Uncle have debates and talk about stuff like this all the time, I tend to get a bit long winded talking about this stuff lol.

 

[pifpaf]

thats a very powerfull image for me


from me and every canadian sorry for what it happen five years agos i am proud canadian fight alongside with american we support your contry

 

[Horrorfan]

I'm listening to Howard Stern on Sirius today. He's replaying the show from 9/11/2001. It really brings it all back, brings back all the emotions and feeling of helplessness during that day.

Yesterday, I went to see World Trade Center before it left the one theater still showing it. Four teens were in the movie, and their lack of respect made me wonder why they bothered to pay full price for a movie they clearly couldn't comprehend the emotions behind. Throughout the film, they were playing with their cellphones, getting up constantly, and just talking and laughing at times. And, people wonder why people aren't going to the cinema anymore???

I haven't heard a Howard Stern show being in the UK- but it's hard to imagine him being respectful of anything, but Im guessing it must have been different that day?

And was WTC good? I don't mind movies or comics- what someone said about making a buck can be somewhat true, but in a way, I think movies are like therapy for a lot of people- seeing it relieved in a somewhat fictional setting can be very theraputic and help people understand it more and get over it.

My friend said that he loved united 93, and it was a showcase for the heroes on board the plane who fought back, and couldnt help but be glad when the rushed the terrorist whos actions were plain evil, no matter what they thought they were fighting for.

I think they have a value- but there definitly shouldnt be one rushed into production every ten minutes. I just hope some of the truly horrible conspiracies about that day never make it into a movie, as that would be incredibly disrespectful.