Accidental shooting kills one on set of new Alec Baldwin movie


No s***!

They’re halfway through filming, but I can’t see anyone wanting to come back to it. Maybe at the very least to honor Halyna’s work, they’ll complete it but I can’t see anyone in the cast and crew, specifically Alec Baldwin and the director, being able to pull it together at least for a long while.
 
Wow... that's really really bad. This story keeps getting worse and worse.
 
Yeah, banning prop guns on sets across-the-board isn't the solution here. These people were out of their damn minds with how lax it all was.

This type of ****'s never happening on some big Disney/WB type movie, with professional safety peeps who take it all seriously. Becoming more and more clear now this was a bunch of cowboys.

Pretty ironic/amusing a guy like Baldwin's just cool with using non-union people, too. Not a great surprise that guy talks the talk without walking the walk.

Clearly they need to regulate this stuff more than it is, though. Strict qualifications to hold the armorer gigs, anonymous hotlines to rat them out if they're not following protocols, etc. If a production agrees they want to voluntarily do everything digitally, cool, not sure even this mandates an outright banning though. It's still an incredibly rare thing to happen. Plug the hole and fix the problem, it's do-able.
 
I really don’t see how they can finish this movie now. Sounded like it was a direct to video movie anyways.
 
The industry already clamped down after Brandon Lee. The problem with rules is that they only work when you follow them...
This is the weak point of further tightening rules, they only help if they're followed, with the rules that currently exist everything already should've been perfectly safe. I'm not against tighter rules, but I doubt they would've prevented this from happening. This was not a result of safety guidelines being lacking, it was a result of them being blatantly ignored and intentionally violated by the crew. Every single crew member that decided to load live rounds into the guns and go shooting for fun should face criminal charges. Even then, how the hell did this get past the AD? How did those guns not get thoroughly inspected before filming? So many things had to go wrong for this to happen.
 
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So I’m just catching up on all of those from when it first happened. Apparently they fired the union workers before this happened, and brought in non-union people? Do I have that correct?
 
So I’m just catching up on all of those from when it first happened. Apparently they fired the union workers before this happened, and brought in non-union people? Do I have that correct?
What's been reported is that a number of union workers walked out before the incident and were replaced by local, non-union people. One of the things the union people walked out over was allegedly gun safety.
 
This is the weak point of further tightening rules, they only help if they're followed, with the rules that currently exist everything already should've been perfectly safe. I'm not against tighter rules, but I doubt they would've prevented this from happening. This was not a result of safety guidelines being lacking, it was a result of them being blatantly ignored and intentionally violated by the crew.
I'm sure the systems already in place for safe weapon handling on a movie set are excellent and 100% fit for purpose. The problem is that no system can function if it's not operating. And if people aren't doing it it's not operating. Exactly the same applies to anything new they might come up with; it means nothing if people don't do it.
 

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