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Actors strike still might happen!!!!

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I have a lot of mixed feelings about this but I felt you should know it looks like it could still happen!! I understand the reasoning behind this but lets face it the timing really sucks! This Is just not what we need right now!!!!! We could very well be shooting ourselves in the foot!! Studios are cutting back already! We need to veto this till further notice!! I jut don't think its the right time!!That being said here is the bad news!!

[FONT=Verdana,Sans-serif] LOS ANGELES (AP) - The Screen Actors Guild's negotiating committee voted Wednesday to support a strike authorization vote, a tactic meant to break stalled contract talks with Hollywood studios.
The recommendation, approved 11-2, now goes to the guild's national board for review, and would ultimately need approval of 75 percent of the some 120,000 voting guild members.
"My personal opinion is, yes, we will achieve a strike authorization," said Anne Marie Johnson, a spokeswoman for Membership First, a faction of actors that had controlled SAG's national board until it narrowly lost its majority in elections last month.
"Membership First has always been a strong advocate of having a strike authorization with us while we're negotiating," Johnson said. "That's really a wise way to negotiate."
Contract talks dealing with prime-time TV shows and movies have been at a standstill since the previous contract expired June 30.
Actors have been working under the terms of the old deal in hopes of avoiding a repeat of a 100-day writers strike that ended in February. The strike shut down production of dozens of TV shows and cost the Los Angeles area economy an estimated $2.5 billion.
The studios, represented by the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, said the economy is in trouble and urged actors not to strike.
"It is unrealistic for SAG negotiators now to expect even better terms during this grim financial climate," the AMPTP said in a statement. "This is the harsh economic reality, and no strike will change that reality."
The SAG's national board, a 71-member body, is scheduled to meet Oct. 18. A simple majority is needed to approve the call for a strike vote.
The guild on Monday called for talks to resume, sending the request in a letter addressed to the alliance, The Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger and News Corp. (NWS)'s Chief Operating Officer Peter Chernin.
The producers' chief negotiator, J. Nicholas Counter III, said he declined to resume talks because SAG continues to insist on terms the companies have rejected.
The guild wants union coverage of all shows made for the Internet, regardless of budget, and residual payments for actors on made-for-Internet shows that are reused on the Internet. It also demands protections for actors during work stoppages.
The alliance has stuck by a final offer it made June 30, which it said mirrored deals accepted by directors, a smaller actors union called the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists, and writers following their strike.
The producers have said the proposal is worth $250 million in additional compensation over three years, a figure SAG disputes.
As of Aug. 15, the alliance withdrew an offer to backdate the increases to July 1, and, according to its Web site, actors had lost some $21 million in increases by Wednesday night by not approving the deal.
Last month, 87 percent of the 10,300 actors who responded to a guild survey backed its leaders' drive for a better deal. The producers alliance called the survey materials "hopelessly one-sided."


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Oh, no. Like they aren't payed enough?
 
Well they will claim the smaller time people aren't paid enough.

When this strike would only put them out of work even more.

Just like the first strike, another one would ONLY hurt the little guy. The people in charge of the studios would not be hurt by this.

And then what will happen? More prod. co.'s and studio wings going under like this past year. More people losing their jobs.

I mean, I understand the plight of SAG and WGA. But the strike will NOT help their cause.
 
Arguably, the smaller people aren't paid enough.

That said, it still doesn't make a strike a smart idea. But, a strike authorization might give the negotiating committee a little leverage to get a better deal than what's out there now. These "last final offers" are seldom last or final. It doesn't cost any actor, anything to vote "yes" to authorizing a strike, and if it gets management to up their offer a little, it's probably a smart economic decision on the actor's part.

Now, actually going on strike is a whole different matter...
 
The actors don't want to strike now, plain and simple. And if they did it right now, they'd be idiotic to do so.

Despite the economic times, a lot of new shows and movies are doing very well. A strike hits and deals expire, shows get cancelled, movies get delayed and go back into development hell for years. Not saying never strike, but strike now and watch the South Park episode that commented on it.
 
Well they will claim the smaller time people aren't paid enough.

When this strike would only put them out of work even more.

Just like the first strike, another one would ONLY hurt the little guy. The people in charge of the studios would not be hurt by this.

And then what will happen? More prod. co.'s and studio wings going under like this past year. More people losing their jobs.

I mean, I understand the plight of SAG and WGA. But the strike will NOT help their cause.

Your preaching to the choir brother!!!:word:
 
I think calling a strike would be silly at this point.

That said, a "Strike Authorization" vote and actually striking are two different things. Best case scenario is probably, "Strike Authorization" is approved, the two sides get back together with a slighty better deal offered to SAG, SAG accepts. Going without a contract isn't a good deal for either side.
 
Here is the most recent update!

After mostly sitting on the sidelines since the June 30 expiration of the SAG contract, studios are preparing to put 40 or more films into production between spring and summer.Hundreds of millions of dollars in production financing will be committed to fill slates for 2010 and 2011, signaling the end of the de facto thesp strike that has kept pic production at a low ebb for nearly a year.
With a handful of exceptions, the majors mostly stopped greenlighting films in October 2007, which led to a large number of productions that wrapped before June 30.
Studios are ready to replicate that pre-strike rush by creating the same kind of boom market for production starting early next year.
Studio toppers are moving forward with a healthy level of anxiety. The recent credit crunch won’t impact the next batch of film starts, execs said, because that money has already been secured and budgeted. And there’s clear evidence that audiences will continue to come to theaters, even if the economy remains in the toilet by the time these films are released.
Studios are more nervous about the financial exposure they face if SAG does go on strike. But the prospect of gaping holes in their distribution slates for 2010 and 2011 is a worse scenario for the majors, and so they are willing to risk the consequences of moving ahead despite the SAG uncertainty.
Films like "Terminator Salvation," "Transformers 2," "Angels & Demons," "Night at the Museum 2" and "2012" went into production after the expiration of the SAG contract, and each of those productions worked in strike contingencies that ranged from agreements with stage houses to shut down and leave sets intact to deals with cast members to return 48 hours after a strike is settled.
All those films completed production without incident, and several studio pics are in production now, including the Judd Apatow-directed "Funny People" (Universal), the Todd Phillips-helmed "Hangover" (Warner Bros.) and the Dwayne Johnson starrer "Tooth Fairy" (Fox 2000), with no problems.
The next batch of studio starts will have no strike protection. Studios begin spending money on pics during the pre-production phase, which usually begins 12 weeks before the start of principal photography. That means the clock will begin running next month on many pictures that will begin lensing in spring. There is no strike insurance available and no real way to protect against the millions of dollars in costs that will be incurred if a shutdown occurs.
Production on studio-sized films costs anywhere between $100,000 and $500,000 per day, and if a production halts because of an actor walkout, studios have only an eight-week hold on casts. There is potential for catastrophe.
Several top agents said the crumbling economy and the way their acting clients are itching to get back to work leaves them hopeful that a strike won’t disrupt film starts. Studios are betting on it.
Studios will protect themselves to some extent by waiting until March or so to start most of their films, creating some cushion for the labor picture to clear.
Even if a deal isn’t reached before SAG’s 2009 elections, execs and agents feel that productions can still move forward under terms of the deal that expired in June. Several agents said studios’ relationship with SAG could replicate the situation between the guild and the town’s top tenpercenteries. The guild’s longstanding franchise agreement with agencies expired in 2002, when a proposed revamp of the rules was voted down by SAG members by a 55% to 45% margin.
Six years later, business has continued more or less as it did under the franchise agreement for thesps and their agents, albeit with the agencies having more flexibility to be involved in financing and producing projects for their clients.
Agents aren’t eager to revisit the franchise agreement issue because since 2002 they have become far more entrepreneurial — by necessity, they say — and routinely create opportunities for clients in film, TV and digital by plugging in the financing. The agents said SAG has traditionally frowned on such maneuvers because of conflict-of-interest concerns, but they are betting the guild doesn’t have the leverage to do anything about it.
"Do you think a big star is going to have its union tell them who can negotiate their deal?" one top dealmaker asked rhetorically.
Meanwhile, most studios will put five or more pictures into production by the spring, though some of the specific start dates are being firmed around locations and casting.
While DreamWorks is expected to go into production early next year on "Up in the Air" with George Clooney starring and Jason Reitman directing, that title is an apt description of other pics expected to begin lensing such as the Steven Spielberg-directed "Tintin," as the company is fresh from a divorce from Paramount and is just plugging into financing from India-based Reliance Big Entertainment.
Most studios have full slates with a mix of moderately budgeted and event-sized fare. Pics include:
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DISNEY

FOX

MGM

MARVEL
(Paramount distributing)

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NEW LINE

PARAMOUNT

UNIVERSAL

WARNER BROS.

 

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