After 28 yrs in prison, man can't handle world of cellphones & computers

[Erzengel]

Glad we agree.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

I bet no one ever got there unjustly.

You're kidding, right?

Out of the millions of people sent to prisons on a yearly basis, I'd bet a little more than a handful didn't deserve to be there or at the very least, for not as long.

 

[Golgo-13]

This is common among new release prisoners; the committing a crime to get put back in jail, thing that is.

 

[Franklin Richards]

You're kidding, right?

Out of the millions of people sent to prisons on a yearly basis, I'd bet a little more than a handful didn't deserve to be there or at the very least, for not as long.

Ever been to jail? County? State?

 

[Anubis]

I haven't, but I know several people that have. And all them mofos deserved it.

 

[Immortalfire]

How many times have you been to jail, uncle Petunia?

 

[DBryan]

I'll go even more obscure than Shawshank and say Allegory of the Cave.




I like the prison in Arizona where the Warden, fed them baloney sandwiches, made them wear pink underwear and didn't give them hot lunches, TV, etc.

Why should we coddle them, they are in jail for a reason. Eff them.

Well let's everyone ignore the FACT that countries which concentrate on rehabilitation have much lower crime rates.

Let's continue spending increasingly high amounts of money on building bigger prisons.

Let's all ignore the FACT that many people in the US are sent to prison for long stretches over very low end crimes such as marijuana possession.

 

[Franklin Richards]

County twice. City holding tank.... I can't remember.


It sucks. Worst thing I did was not pay an insurance ticket. One time I had a CD case with a bud of pot in it.


Money scam.

 

[DBryan]

http://www.skeptically.org/recdrugs/id8.html

Washington, DC: Police arrested an estimated 723,627 persons for marijuana violations in 2001, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, released today. The total is the second highest ever recorded by the FBI, and comprises nearly half of all drug arrests in the United States.

"These numbers belie the myth that police do not target and arrest minor marijuana offenders," said Keith Stroup, Executive Director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML). "In fact, the war on drugs is largely a war on pot smokers. This effort is a tremendous waste of criminal justice resources that should be dedicated toward combating serious and violent crime, including the war on terrorism."

Of those charged with marijuana violations, 88.6 percent - some 641,108 Americans - were charged with possession only. The remaining 82,518 individuals were charged with "sale/manufacture," a category that includes all cultivation offenses - even those where the marijuana was being grown for personal or medical use.

The total number of marijuana arrests far exceeds the total number of arrests for all violent crimes combined, including murder, manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault.

Since 1992, approximately six million Americans have been arrested on marijuana charges, a greater number than the entire populations of Alaska, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont and Wyoming combined. Annual marijuana arrests have more than doubled in that time.

"It's time we stopped arresting adults who use marijuana responsibly," says Stroup.

YEAR MARIJUANA ARRESTS

2001 723,627
2000 734,498
1999 704,812
1998 682,885
1997 695,200
1996 641,642
1995 588,963
1994 499,122
1993 380,689
1992 342,314

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7434

 

[Anubis]

Or you could like, not smoke Marijuana.

Grow up and do Coke like an adult.

 

[Franklin Richards]

I have an eating disorder. I'm addicted to twinkies but I'm never hungry.

 

[Erzengel]

Well let's everyone ignore the FACT that countries which concentrate on rehabilitation have much lower crime rates.

Let's continue spending increasingly high amounts of money on building bigger prisons.

Let's all ignore the FACT that many people in the US are sent to prison for long stretches over very low end crimes such as marijuana possession.

The guy who switched to baloney sandwiches saved half a million dollars.

 

[Anubis]

I don't know about the rest of you but the main thing that has kept me out of trouble is fear of prison rape. That's all I need. Parking tickets get paid. I don't drink and drive. I don't steal, I don't kill, and I don't do or sell drugs. Thanks prison rape!

 

[The Question]

I like the prison in Arizona where the Warden, fed them baloney sandwiches, made them wear pink underwear and didn't give them hot lunches, TV, etc.

Why should we coddle them, they are in jail for a reason. Eff them.

Because terrible prison conditions make a person more likely to reoffend after their time has been served.

Also, sadistic behavior is wrong and creept regardless of what the person on the recieving end did.

The guy who switched to baloney sandwiches saved half a million dollars.

He also intentionally malnourished over a thousand people and put them through terrible conditions with no emphasis on rehabilitation which makes them more likely to remain socially deviant in the outside world.

 

[Microchip]

I'll go even more obscure than Shawshank and say Allegory of the Cave.

Plato!

 

[Erzengel]

Because terrible prison conditions make a person more likely to reoffend after their time has been served.

Also, sadistic behavior is wrong and creept regardless of what the person on the recieving end did.



He also intentionally malnourished over a thousand people and put them through terrible conditions with no emphasis on rehabilitation which makes them more likely to remain socially deviant in the outside world.

Boo hoo.

Don't commit crimes.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

Things could've ended up a lot worse for him.

 

[Erzengel]

I don't know about the rest of you but the main thing that has kept me out of trouble is fear of prison rape. That's all I need. Parking tickets get paid. I don't drink and drive. I don't steal, I don't kill, and I don't do or sell drugs. Thanks prison rape!

Yeah I don't commit crimes because I like the ability to go where I want, and hang out and yes not to be anally raped.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Reading through this thread, you sure can tell who the liberals and conservatives are

 

[Lencho01]

I don't know about the rest of you but the main thing that has kept me out of trouble is fear of prison rape. That's all I need. Parking tickets get paid. I don't drink and drive. I don't steal, I don't kill, and I don't do or sell drugs. Thanks prison rape!

That is the number one reason for me. As a child, it was watching old episodes of Scared Straight.

 

[The Question]

Boo hoo.

Don't commit crimes.

What part of "violent crime rates would be lower if prisons had more humane living conditions and focused on rehabilitation instead of punishment" do you not understand?

 

[Erzengel]

So giving them PS2s and internet will help them do that?

 

[Raiden]

Damn...Captain America should've just killed himself when he woke up at Times Square.

If this man can't even cope after 28 years away from society, how did Steve Rogers did it when he was out of it for 75+ years? Maybe in the movie, we'll see Rogers acting weird around technology.

 

[Lencho01]

This is pretty much what we went into with what happened in Norway. Their prisons can be pretty nice...

Check out the prison (or very nice college dorm) he might end up in. Gaurds with no guns who are encouraged to hang out with the prisoners. Flat screen TVs in their rooms, mini fridges, learning how to ride a unicycle, personal trainers, and more. Doesn't seem much like punishment.

http://www.slate.com/id/2300098/?gt1=38001

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[The Question]

So giving them PS2s and internet will help them do that?

Possibly, but my main point is less about "they should be given video games" and more about "they shouldn't be forced to only eat bologna sandwiches and wear pink underwear and prisons should focus on rehabilitation, creating programs to help people come to see their shortcomings and overcome them instead of making prisoners as miserable as posible as that approach to running prisons is not only inhumane but actually detrimental to protecting society."

Studies show that prison systems with punishment as their primary goal produce people who are social outcasts with few life skills and stunted emotional development who's reasons for commiting crimes in the first plae have been compounded, and as a result crime rates and reoffense rates are much higher. Prisons that actually focus on rehabilitation result in the opposite.

This is pretty much what we went into with what happened in Norway. Their prisons can be pretty nice...

Yes, the prisons in Norway are much nicer than the prisons in the united states. But the violent crime rate in Norway is significantly lower than the violent crime rate in the unites states, and the nature of their prisons is a factor in that. Everything that prison does, the goal is not to punish or make miserable the prisoners but to help them see the error of their ways, which regardless of any catharsis we might feel for their siffering is actually much more benifical to society because it means that when they leave they are less likely to cimmit crimes again.