Transformers After seeing the new trailer, how do you feel?

[Supreme Power]

I fail to see how adding a teen romance, some badass type military guys and tons of flashy explosions is a change for the better.

So, you want to see a Transformers movie without explosions?

 

[Spade]

So, you want to see a Transformers movie without explosions?

That's not the issue. Without lasers flying and explosions occuring the Transformers just wouldn't be fun. It's when the only notable thing about the movie is the pretty explosions and constant stream of action that people start wondering if they should tone it down and focus on those underdeveloped CGI statuettes...the Transformers themselves.

 

[Supreme Power]

That's not the issue. Without lasers flying and explosions occuring the Transformers just wouldn't be fun. It's when the only notable thing about the movie is the pretty explosions and constant stream of action that people start wondering if they should tone it down and focus on those underdeveloped CGI statuettes...the Transformers themselves.

We have only seen a teaser trailor, cmon. They haven't shown other elements of the movie yet.

 

[zanos]

It looks like a great robot film but it looks about as Faithful to Transformers as Batman and Robin was to Batman.

 

[Majik1387]

Now that I saw it in good quality on youtube, I rate it a 9 rather than my 8. I mean, it just looks so fricking cool.

 

[nosebleed.]

Yeah, because Spike and his father never did jack s**t on the cartoons.

If your only answer to that is 2 humans and rollyeyes then congrats on showing your inadequacy to debate. Spike and his father were not the main focus or did you not get that?

When the people in charge of our military are incompetent, the military itself is incompetent.

Then the US as a whole is incompetent. Your grouping whole factions together is very convenient to your argument...too bad its full of BS. And tell that to the troops who are killing themselves to defend you...have some respect.

robots that transorm into vehicles? My point is, how can you fault the film for being revelant to the time in which its made? Furthermore, I fail to see how it's been done at the expense of the "essence" of the cartoon/comic, something no one has even explained to me yet.

If you don't understand how the trailer lacks a Transformers vibe then its good for you then...you'll like the movie. Myself, I could see the potential in what a Transformers franchise could have been in the hands of a director with a little more vision. I'm not happy with mediocrity.

Well, in the case of Megatron, he's a twenty foot robot that transforms into a foot-long handgun. Where's the logic in that! As for Bumblebee, Volkswagen denied the right for filmmakers to use the Beetle, sorry. Optimus Prime? Even from behind as he transformed, I saw enough to immediately recognize him as Prime. I'm sorry if ever part of the transformers body isn't shaped like a damn box.

There's ways to modernize the designs while still maintaining resemblence. The only character who keeps to that is Optimus Prime...Bumblebee just a little because of his color.

You're right, first and foremost. . . .it's a toy line!! See the credits at the end of the trailer? "Based on the Hasbro Action Figures"! Not "Based on the Animated Series", not "Based on a Pulitzer Prize-Winning Novel", not "Based on the Inspiration True Story"! Stop trying to elevate the s**t to a higher plane, while not even offering futher explanation of your point, I might add.

Its 20+ years of history. Transformers has enough history to make a damn good sci-fi movie but the production for this movie has made it pretty clear that they want nothing more than a summer popcorn flick. The s**t is at a higher plane...you're just ignorant of the history so quit acting like you know it all. Raimi and Nolan aren't working off of "Pulitzer Prize-winning novels"...just comic books.

I didn't see the military doing harm to the Decepticons. In fact, all the trailer showed was the military getting their asses handed to them, so we don't know to what extent the military is able to stand up to the threat of the Decepticons.

Others who have read the script say otherwise

 

[CFlash]

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My point is, how can you fault the film for being revelant to the time in which its made? Furthermore, I fail to see how it's been done at the expense of the "essence" of the cartoon/comic, something no one has even explained to me yet.

The cartoon and comic had a strong element of delibirate sci-fi (natural resources / energy crisis / environmental disasters) NOT an "Invaders from Space" Independence Day motiff. I think this sort of concept is even more relevant today than it was in 1983. I'm not sure how much this will be fleshed out in the movie... if at all.

All we know is they're searching for Megatron.... that's it.

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I didn't see the military doing harm to the Decepticons. In fact, all the trailer showed was the military getting their asses handed to them, so we don't know to what extent the military is able to stand up to the threat of the Decepticons.

According to the script, the military is able to kill them (or blow off limbs) by freezing them with liquid nitrogen. They mount a "Cryo-gun" on top of a vehicle and go around shooting them. A couple of bots get killed in this way. In the original, humans were pretty much utterly and completely helpless (which is why the Autobots were so important).

 

[Naite22]

After seeing this new trailer I can honnestly say that it's the most badass real-life looking special effects I have EVER SEEN!!! It looked so God damn real that I almost crapped my pants! The movie looks incredible!!!

 

[Nebins]

This movie looks like it'll be a great summer flick. I was never a fan of the Transformers cartoon so I have no idea how true to the Transformers this movie will be but it looks incredible and that's how you sell tickets to a movie, make it look incredible.

 

[Duo Prime]

According to the script, the military is able to kill them (or blow off limbs) by freezing them with liquid nitrogen. They mount a "Cryo-gun" on top of a vehicle and go around shooting them. A couple of bots get killed in this way. In the original, humans were pretty much utterly and completely helpless (which is why the Autobots were so important).

OH NO!!!

I've been trying to avoid the script, just so i wouldn't be disapointed with somthing just like that, altho i would have found out sooner or later, CK Flash.

Freezing limbs off....thats the crappiest thing i've heard all year. If they are able to be frozen with liquid nitrogen, then how the hell do they explain them flying through the vaccum of freakin space?! I knew they were going to completly F-up the continuity once they started changing the story. Thats a pretty big hole in the plot!!! Why the hell didn't they just give them the ark?

 

[zanos]

I hated Bay before for ruining Transformers, now I utterly despise him. That trailer was pure garbage. That ain't Transformers. Rename it Bionicle the Movie before it's too late.

LOL.

 

[CFlash]

OH NO!!!

I've been trying to avoid the script, just so i wouldn't be disapointed with somthing just like that, altho i would have found out sooner or later, CK Flash.

Freezing limbs off....thats the crappiest thing i've heard all year. If they are able to be frozen with liquid nitrogen, then how the hell do they explain them flying through the vaccum of freakin space?! I knew they were going to completly F-up the continuity once they started changing the story. Thats a pretty big hole in the plot!!! Why the hell didn't they just give them the ark?

Somebody else explained it was something like extreme temps... fast freeze, then extreme heat... or whatever. The point is that the military isn't "powerless" against them. Sure, they're underdogs compared to big robots...

We humans come through in a clutch and save the Autobots.

 

[TNC9852002]

I never found a reason to doubt this movie even before the first teaser was released...

-TNC

 

[millennium movies]

TF 2007 aka AVP...

 

[ENERjosh]

it does have an aliens , robot attack earth type feel. but you have to start some where.i think it s the best way to convey a story like this. im sure all the old feelings of transformers will kick in once they start talking to each other. remember the movie is only 30% done. and this was the least of the amazing scenes that speilberg and bay have instore for us. steve bushemi has been in almost all of bays films. hopefully he will be voicing something, someone.!!!!!
this movie will be initiation to other cartoons being made into movies. i think this is going to go well. how could it not.
optimus had flames and im ok with that. i just wont be sticking them to my toy when they are released.

 

[KenK]

If your only answer to that is 2 humans and rollyeyes then congrats on showing your inadequacy to debate. Spike and his father were not the main focus or did you not get that?

My point is, aside from Beast Wars/Machines, Trnasformers series have always included some form of human interaction, and in the case of the AUtobots, they were regularly allied with Spike and Sparkplug, who often joined them in battles in some capacity, to say nothing of the father and son even being able to repair parts of the Autobots from time to time. I'm not gonna fault the movie for shifting focus to the human characters in the context of a two-hour film, because I feel it's a good way for the audience to be drawn into the experience.

Then the US as a whole is incompetent.

George W. Bush DID get re-elected.

And tell that to the troops who are killing themselves to defend you...have some respect.

I have respect for the troops, but they're carrying out the orders of an idiot.

If you don't understand how the trailer lacks a Transformers vibe then its good for you then...you'll like the movie. Myself, I could see the potential in what a Transformers franchise could have been in the hands of a director with a little more vision. I'm not happy with mediocrity.

Well, why don't you explain it to me, since I'm so ignorant, and don't understand what vibe it should be giving me to identify it as Transformers.

There's ways to modernize the designs while still maintaining resemblence.

But you personally don't know how to, so what's your point? You can say there are ways to do this, and there are ways to do that until the cows come home, and it won't mean jack if you can't provide examples. I know this is where someone pulls out the dozen or so car commercials featuring Transformers, but none of them would work plausibly in the context of an action film. Watching the trailer, I personally am impressed by what I've seen as far as the Transformers functioning in acting sequences, and just moving, as exhibited in the last shot of the Transformer coming out of the swimming pool, and seeing all the joints flexing in the legs and feet, and whatnot. They're the type of feet a twenty-foot robot would need to stabilize itself. Watching Prime transform, however brief, I could make out the recognizable vehicle parts and how they would transform into robot mode.

Its 20+ years of history. Transformers has enough history to make a damn good sci-fi movie but the production for this movie has made it pretty clear that they want nothing more than a summer popcorn flick. The s**t is at a higher plane...you're just ignorant of the history so quit acting like you know it all.

How long did the original Marvel comic run?(serious question, not trying to be an a$$hole) You can't act like the whole 20 years has material worth mining. I'd say the last two or three animated series have been utter crap, unless you want the film to draw influence from Beast Wars (hey, at least we got Skorponok in there!), having collected the first few Dreamwave comics, those were crap, and even Transformers: The Movie doesn't really hold up after twenty years. Like Power Rangers: The Movie, it's little more than filler to lead into a new season of the television series and introduce the new characters. S**t, Prime dies in the first ten minutes! Maybe it would have been cool if he died late in the movie, but he gets dusted like nothing in the first act!

Raimi and Nolan aren't working off of "Pulitzer Prize-winning novels"...just comic books.

Yeah, but in the realm of popular culture, I'd place Spider-Man and Batman way above Transformers. At the heart of Spider-Man is a regular guy like people in real-life, but he has extraordinary powers and a responsibility to use them. What do Spider-Man fans complain about the most? The fact that he's not the broke joe schmoe he was back in the day. He's married to a freakin' Supermodel! They need Spider-Man to be an average Joe in real life, 'cause that's what the core audience relates to. And that's relatively easier to translate to film that robots who act like humans from the moment they land on a planet they know nothing about. As for Batman, the appeal of Batman is that his greatest power is his mind. If some puts their mind to it, they can be as intelligent as Batman in real life. With the right amount of physical discipline, a person can be as in shape as Batman. Look at Vladimir Klitchko, the man's a world class heavyweight box with like two PhD's!!

In the case of both heroes, they've been victims of real-life crime. Countless people have dealt with that in real life. It's not hard to translate these concepts to film.

Freezing limbs off....thats the crappiest thing i've heard all year. If they are able to be frozen with liquid nitrogen, then how the hell do they explain them flying through the vaccum of freakin space?!

First word "Stasis", second word "Pod".

 

[Brainiac 8]

In the Transformers comic books in the 80's, the army blew up several of the Transformers.

 

["V"]

It looks utterly hollow.

How can Bay have near $200 mio, thirty feet robots and a whole incompetent army and make such an interesting trailer?

There will only be so many cars we see getting blown up on a freeway in two hours...

It will still be a huge success due to the feeble public who want a movie with no depth whatsoever and where they can stuff their faces for two hours and leave saying "Woah, best film ever!"

 

[Cyrusbales]

Can someone post a new link? Because the on on the SHH news doesn't work on my comp!! PLEASE???

 

[Avangarde]

As the regulars here know, I'm still undecided. To be honest I don't think I will able to form a proper opinion until I have seen the movie. I can accept a new version of Transformers (not like it hasn't been done before ) but Bay must tell the story well, don't leave us with a no-brainer, that IMHO would be very disrespectful of the TF mythos.

 

[Avangarde]

Can someone post a new link? Because the on on the SHH news doesn't work on my comp!! PLEASE???

Try looking with your eyes, its bloody everywhere here in the TF boards.

 

[Brainiac 8]

It's in my sig.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Thanks

 

[Cyrusbales]

The whole trailer looks pretty great, all apart from optimus prime, altho i did watch it without sound, so can't be too sure about the acting, but the transforming element looks sweet, altho optimus prime worries me....

 

[Angry Sentinel]

Great, one more time into the frey....

Please believe me, I love BIG ROBOTS. And since I haven't seen the movie I can not say for sure, but I think USMC summed it up the best

Edit...I absolutely agree. The largest reason for making movies is not to appease fans. It's to make the most money. That's just the way it is, and I have no problem with that. Obviously this movie's going to make alot of money. I'll go see it. I just know that I'm not going to see it simply because it holds the title of "Transformers".

I'm a HUGE Stephen King fan. But like you said, most written work just doesn't translate well on screen(Edit... instead insert the words "to a the mainstream audience"). Does that mean I don't enjoy the film adaptations? No, I enjoy many of them. But they just aren't the same and I can't compare them to the original stories, because they always fall short.

And I fully expect this summer-popcorn, turn-off-your-brain-and-enjoy, robot movie to be the same. It'll be fun, but it won't be Transformers.

And finally, I will add that they REALLY need to stop calling these things Xmen, Hulk, Spiderman, Superman, Transformers, etc. It is the HIGHEST form of disrespect to the fans that dove deeper into the mythos than their kewl character or favorite power. They should buy the rights, get all the necessary permissions and then do what any other real artist would do when plagarizing someone elses work and making it their own... GIVE IT A DIFFERENT TITLE!