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After The End.

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What do you think becomes of Ozymandias?

Does his plan really work in the long run?

Does the New Frontiersman publish excerpts from Rorschach's notebook?

What do you think becomes of the world after the story "ends"?
 
The truth gets out,Roschach`s journal was found..and was about to be published.
 
i agree with Jourmugand. remember the final words of Doc Manhattan:
"Nothing ever ends"
 
I remember Ozymandias saying something about nobody believing Rorschach because of his mental state, so even if Rorschach's journal was published people may not take it seriously.
 
The journal is published and it splits the public.
Could Ozymandias be hunting down Laurie and Dan? Fearing that they would come forward or someone else might look for them and get to them beofre Ozy? The US Government might want to know, they'd like to talk to Dreiberg.

When Laurie visits her mother she is paranoid and says they can't stay long, looking out the window.
 
Rorschach would definately have more credibility had he sent New Frontiersman the papers he and Nite Owl took from Veidt's desk.

 
I agree with everyone, and that the published journal splits the public. The New Frontiersman probably prints up alot of nonsense, but they also print stuff that is true. It would open some peoples minds. Like the 9/11 conspiracies minus being ******ed. OR ARE THEY? :ninja:
 
I think it ends up being like the numerous theories on how/why JFK was killed. Was the Mafia involved? Was the government? A lone gunman? etc. it ends up being a theory that Ozy was responsible but just one out of many conspiracy theories brought up.

I don't think the plan would work in the long run and I like what Alan Moore once said about Ozy, which was that he thinks not long after the end, Ozy would've commited suicide after realizing what Manhattan's "Nothing ever ends" comment means. I think that's pretty accurate
 
Ozy would've commited suicide after realizing what Manhattan's "Nothing ever ends" comment means. I think that's pretty accurate

And that's the "Black Freighter" he was swimming towards. Makes sense, I think.

I have been trying to make comparisons between Black Freighter and Ozymandias to get an idea of what might happen to him after all is said and done.
 
I think it ends up being like the numerous theories on how/why JFK was killed. Was the Mafia involved? Was the government? A lone gunman? etc. it ends up being a theory that Ozy was responsible but just one out of many conspiracy theories brought up.

I don't think the plan would work in the long run and I like what Alan Moore once said about Ozy, which was that he thinks not long after the end, Ozy would've commited suicide after realizing what Manhattan's "Nothing ever ends" comment means. I think that's pretty accurate
I agree with this.
 
I remember Ozymandias saying something about nobody believing Rorschach because of his mental state, so even if Rorschach's journal was published people may not take it seriously.

I doubt anyone would since there is peace in the world.
 
1. I think the JFK conspiracy is an accurate analogy of what the New Fronteirsman would do...some speculation, little evidence, nothing more...

2. I don't think that Ozy would commit suicide, even if Moore said as much...he seems to proud and strong for something as weak as that...

3. I really do think that an alien invasion would unite the human race...it would certianly break down many religious barriers and cause a lot of people to untie under the banner of 'Mankind'.....

4. I think that the new 'Hollis' is gonna get some real good lovin!!!!!! BAM!
 
1) Oz becomes disillusioned and wonders whether he's done the right thing. He eventually distances himself from humanity and possibly tries to become like Doc. Manhattan eventually.

2) Nope.

3) Yes. The New Frontiersmen are going to publish excerpts from Rorscharchs journal continuously and it becomes a big conspiracy theory. Laurie eventually gets bored of her life in hiding and drops a line somewhere supporting the theory in when she's old.
 
I want to see what kind of life Dr. Manhattan created in his "less complicated" universe. :)
 
(1) Just does his thing, makes lots more money, helps the process of peaceful coexistence along like he does. I mean, bottom line he's done what he thinks is right and it worked. Sure, he might end up dead inside, feeling guilty, but I think he sees this thing through.

(2/4)What is the long run anyway? I think nice, friendly relations between the USSR and the Western, democratic world would probably help erode the Soviet system, what with no external threat to keep the weakened states together, and their first glimpses of the higher standard of living in the now friendly happy USA. Or maybe friendly relations bring with them trade, improved economy, and all sorts of good stuff for the communists... The Russians are non-entities in the story, so it's tough to say. In any case, the cold war isn't going to start up again, if that's what you mean. Other bad **** is going to happen though, eventually, and there's no stopping that.

(3) No. Or yes. Doesn't really matter, it's just a wacky device to force the reader to make a moral judgement. I would say no, because nothing good could possibly come of it.
 
I think it ends up being like the numerous theories on how/why JFK was killed. Was the Mafia involved? Was the government? A lone gunman? etc. it ends up being a theory that Ozy was responsible but just one out of many conspiracy theories brought up.

I don't think the plan would work in the long run and I like what Alan Moore once said about Ozy, which was that he thinks not long after the end, Ozy would've commited suicide after realizing what Manhattan's "Nothing ever ends" comment means. I think that's pretty accurate

I could see Ozymondias killing himself to get a last stab at Dr. Manhattan. I'm not sure if he can actually die and that's probably what he has wanted for a long time.:o
 
Obviously Adrian's plan can't unify the world forever. Eventually, we'll find something else to fight with each other about. It happened here in America after 9/11. Everyone loved each other for a while, but we eventually started fighting amongst ourselves again.

And I believe Rorschach's jounral gets published, but because it's published by New Frontiersman it won't be taken seriously or even acknowledged by a lot of people. And even if it did gain some credibility, Adrian could easily run a smear campaign to expose Walter's shaky mental state and further harm his credibility.

So the story once again ends in ambiguous tragedy, where the righteous are silenced and nobody really knows what to feel. I wouldn't have it any other way :up:
 
Obviously Adrian's plan can't unify the world forever. Eventually, we'll find something else to fight with each other about. It happened here in America after 9/11. Everyone loved each other for a while, but we eventually started fighting amongst ourselves again.

And I believe Rorschach's jounral gets published, but because it's published by New Frontiersman it won't be taken seriously or even acknowledged by a lot of people. And even if it did gain some credibility, Adrian could easily run a smear campaign to expose Walter's shaky mental state and further harm his credibility.

So the story once again ends in ambiguous tragedy, where the righteous are silenced and nobody really knows what to feel. I wouldn't have it any other way :up:

That probably sums it up--the world finds some more things to fight over, this causes Viedt to become disillusioned and probably offs himself, thinking he failed.

Here's a question: Do you think Dan and Laurie take up crime-fighting again? It seemed that was what sparked their relationship, and with the more peaceful world it's possible that the government would allow them.
 
That probably sums it up--the world finds some more things to fight over, this causes Viedt to become disillusioned and probably offs himself, thinking he failed.
I can see himself already planning his own death, years before. Notice the stance when he said "I did it!!!" Seen something familiar from V for Vendetta? He had already planned his own death, merely waiting for his final masterstroke before he himself died. Making sure that all the loose ends were tied up, or were they?

Here's a question: Do you think Dan and Laurie take up crime-fighting again? It seemed that was what sparked their relationship, and with the more peaceful world it's possible that the government would allow them.
I believe they COULD take up crime fighting again, except for their fear of Veidt. Not like they want any pressure to tell what happened, its all too big for them, they care more for each other, to want to be distracted by what happened.
 
Working together, we build our defenses and become one world armed in solidarity against the threat of future alien invasions. One hundred and fifteen years years later our Human Off-world Military stations (H.O.M.E. Stations) have interplanetary WMD's cocked and loaded in the direction of Suspected Hostile Identity Territorial Systems (S.H.I.T Systems). Our neighbors in Alpha Centauri take notice of our guns and begin to feel nervous. The bastards launch a prememptive strike on Earth. War begins.
 
What do you think becomes of Ozymandias?
He becomes more and more disillusioned with himself until he becomes a bizarre recluse with a guilty conscience.


Does his plan really work in the long run?
Nope.


Does the New Frontiersman publish excerpts from Rorschach's notebook?
It does, though aside from a few conspiracy theorists, it's not taken seriously be anyone.

What do you think becomes of the world after the story "ends"?
After a few years of more peaceful conversation, it goes on much as the world always has. With ups and downs.
 
I don't think anything would change for very long. I mean, hasn't humanity supposedly lived in fear of a higher being for a few thousand years anyway? That hasn't stopped them. Ozymandias's plan would eventually turn into a religion and eventually fade and things would go back to being how they were before.

I think he would have been smart enough to realize that fear of a higher being never lasts, and that that's what Dr. Manhattan meant by "nothing ever ends".
 

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