Sci-Fi Alien: Romulus (2024)

There are plenty space horror franchises and IP's in world waiting to be adapted. Why for god sake we need another Alien pitch? Same goes for Predator. I cannot understand this Hollywood crap. Leave it alone, adapt something else, some book, video game, create new thing original. Ffs
 
I also enjoy 3 (Assembly Cut especially) and Resurrection a great deal, and while I don't dislike Newt or Hicks by any means, I also never saw them as being indispensable characters who were on the level of Ripley herself.

The films up til that point are about Ripley and how the experiences in each film affect and relate to her, including that budding family dynamic between her, Newt and Hicks. But their abrupt, senseless deaths and how it affected Ripley were also an experience that had just as much validity in being explored. And I think they covered it pretty well.

It's always annoyed me slightly that their deaths are always used as a stick with which to beat down the third film. If you hate the third movie for other reasons, then that's fine and totally legitimate. Hicks and Newt dying within the first ten minutes, however, I've just never understood as being a valid criticism.

I like Alien 3 and Resurrection a lot also. But the problem with killing Hicks and Newt off screen was after all they went though to survive in Aliens, so many close encounters and for Newt months and months of horror surviving on her own was just a grim end for them.

I know they were stick with Newts actress growing older but why not recast or set the movie a few years later?
 
People generally like to affix the labels 'horror' and 'action' to those first two movies, respectively. I like to go one further and ascribe the genre of 'tragedy' to Alien 3. And I think the abrupt, premature deaths of Newt and Hicks, after all the hardship and suffering Ripley had to go through to help save them in Aliens, massively feeds into that grim, hopeless feeling of tragedy. For the story that Alien 3 was trying to tell, I think Newt and Hicks dying in the manner in which they did makes Alien 3 a rawer and more emotionally powerful film for it. Newt and Hicks fighting alongside Ripley is ultimately just not the story they wanted to tell. :shrug: And I'm fine with that.
 
People generally like to affix the labels 'horror' and 'action' to those first two movies, respectively. I like to go one further and ascribe the genre of 'tragedy' to Alien 3. And I think the abrupt, premature deaths of Newt and Hicks, after all the hardship and suffering Ripley had to go through to help save them in Aliens, massively feeds into that grim, hopeless feeling of tragedy. For the story that Alien 3 was trying to tell, I think Newt and Hicks dying in the manner in which they did makes Alien 3 a rawer and more emotionally powerful film for it. Newt and Hicks fighting alongside Ripley is ultimately just not the story they wanted to tell. :shrug: And I'm fine with that.

Which is fair enough. But one of the strengths of Aliens was its characters, you cared when they died in the movie as you grew to be invested in them. It really is a grim end for the survivors in Alien 3 and that bothered people who loved the previously movie so much.

I still like Alien 3 but even with just Hicks around it probably would have been better.

Anyway I am interested to see what Alvarez comes up with. I liked Prometheus a lot but hated Covenant. So fresh blood might just be what this franchise needs.

Hope Jane Levy gets a role
 
This is supposedly unconnected to the previous films (new cast & characters), so no Ripley unfortunately.
 
I don't believe the studio knows what makes a good Alien movie and don't have the patience to let a director build the atmosphere and discovery the way the only two quality movies in this franchise did.

FOX (or what's left of it I mean, since I know they're owned by Disney now) is basically WB and ruining their own top franchises. :o
 
I'd love to see Mary Elizabeth Winstead in an Alien film. If you HAD to do Amanda Ripley, she'd be perfect.

Love this idea! She is a great actress and I’ve always thought she had a young Sigourney Weaver (or even Carrie Fisher) vibe. She would be a great fit for an Alien movie, I loved her in The Thing remake.
 
Love this idea! She is a great actress and I’ve always thought she had a young Sigourney Weaver (or even Carrie Fisher) vibe. She would be a great fit for an Alien movie, I loved her in The Thing remake.

You're right about the Carrie Fisher aspect. So right I stole your idea and used it in another thread.
 
I believe they said they (loosely) based MEW’s character in The Thing on Ripley. I wasn’t crazy about that movie but I loved Winstead. She’s pretty much great in everything.

That said, I don’t think even she could make this franchise good again. They need to stick a damned fork in it already. When even Ridley Scott can’t figure out how to make a good Alien movie, it’s time to let it go.
 
You're right about the Carrie Fisher aspect. So right I stole your idea and used it in another thread.

Haha it’s true though! She really does look/act like a mix of Carrie & Sigourney and I’ve always thought she could easily play a young Leia or Ripley if need be.
I believe they said they (loosely) based MEW’s character in The Thing on Ripley. I wasn’t crazy about that movie but I loved Winstead. She’s pretty much great in everything.

That said, I don’t think even she could make this franchise good again. They need to stick a damned fork in it already. When even Ridley Scott can’t figure out how to make a good Alien movie, it’s time to let it go.

Well there you go, I had no idea haha.

I somewhat agree with you though, I think they have really run this franchise into the ground but I do think there’s some hope if they make a new movie which is very much in line with the original. Almost like an Alien version of Halloween 2018 or Scream 2022. Try to recapture that same vibe of horror in space that none of the other movies (at least IMO) have attempted to replicate.

I know it’s almost impossible but I would love to see Sigourney back in some way, I always felt like she had one more movie in her after Resurrection. But knowing that’s not likely I think they should set this during the 57 year gap after Alien and have a new team discovering the original planet/derelict/space jockey mystery. That entire section of the first Alien movie terrifies and unnerves me and one of my favourite parts of the Alien Isolation game was getting to explore that place again.

I think there is a great mystery/horror movie there, and maybe the new team finds the remains/whatever is left of the creature that burst out of the space jockey… eerie to think about
 
Alvarez is a good horror director while Ridley hasn't been that for years. I liked Prometheus but Covenant was poor. I think there are reasons to be a bit more positive about this one.

Plus it being on Hulu gives them a bit more freedom to take a few big swings as one of the new Predator movie producers said.
 
Fede is fine. But Girl in the Spider’s Web and everything he’s produced since is worse than anything in Alien: Covenant I’ll just say that lol

And I love the “big swing” talk as if Prometheus didn’t take big swings. It’s just the swings fans didn’t like. “Big swings” doesn’t really mean anything as this franchise has always done that.
 
Personally I don't really like any of Alvarez's films, but I'm willing to give him a chance since Scott's latest attempts haven't been the best. I'm much more interested in Hawley's version, though.
 
IMO Prometheus is the second best film in the franchise after the original.

Alien
Prometheus
Aliens
Alien vs Predator
Alien Resurrection
Alien Covenant
Alien III
Alien vs Predator Requiem
 
Okay, here's a random idea for an Alien movie. So, IMO, part of the problem with most of the Alien movies is that they focus on being about the xenomorph, and how cosmic and invincible they are, etc etc. Which misses the point, the xenomorph are dangerous, but they are dangerous in the way that an unknown animal ( or maybe something-more-than-animal ) is. The real reason there is an actual threat, is almost always because of human incompetence or greed. The theme of Alien is "Unprepared people exposed to alien danger due to human vice".

So, lets take that and run with it a tad. It is the future, further future than Aliens, far enough that after a couple incidents like the total loss of the Hadley's Hope colony, the xenomorph is now a known hazard at least broadly. Properly trained spacers are aware that eggs and facehuggers are a thing that exists, procedures and equipment exist to contain and kill xenomorph if necessary, and there are even proper emergency measures to save the lives of those infested, if done in proper time. Which is where we first arrive, with the doctor working at a mining operation ( or something similar ), who just had the one thing every medical professional hopes they never see land on their sickbed- a worker wearing a facehugger. The latest operation burst through into a cave chamber filled with eggs, things went down hill from there.

In theory, this is a bad situation, but one that should be perfectly manageable. They caught this situation early, so there is only one facehugger victim. The outpost should just scan, verify, and destroy via explosives the egg chamber, do sterilization sweeps in its vicinity, all while the the facehugger victim receives medical treatment to remove the hugger and kill the implanted embryo. In theory. The problem is three-fold. One, the outpost command is slow and sloppy about instituting containment protocols, out of poor emergency training, a desire to avoid the bureaucratic disruptions of a declared Xenomorph Encounter Incident on their operations bottom line, or both. Two, due to said sloppy protocols, iffy morale, and good old human fear, there are a lot of personnel who near panic, and at any moment there might be an outbreak of paranoid violence. Three, and most importantly for said doctor? It turns out those "emergency medical supplies" that are *supposed* to be there for dealing easily with xenomorph outbreaks? Are incomplete, absent, or old and non-functional, maybe due to penny pinching at the outpost, or maybe just someone screwed up elsewhere and no one noticed until an actual emergency happened.

Thus, the doctor ( who is the main hero of the story ) is on the clock, trying to acquire and improvise the necessary supplies to save one person's life, against a backdrop of forces standing in the way. Can they get the necessary tools and medicine to do their job before the embryo matures? Will they even get the chance, when either outpost management or vigilante mobs or both might decide its more critical to just kill the dude? And what if, amidst general screwups and ordinary incompetence, there are one or more people hiding a more sinister agenda?

( Writer's Notes: No, it wouldn't be all about "Get a sample for research". That has already been done way too many times. Ex cathedra, anyone out there who actually wanted xenomorph samples for research purposes already got them decades ago, its moot. Some possible sinister agendas I would instead consider include "Somebody in management wants to blow up the operation for insurance purposes", "Somebody in personnel wants to use the emergency to either force government/regulatory attention or foment a revolt against management", or "Its purely personal, baby, no big goal, just a chance to ruin and murder some specific person they hate". Also, while you can dial the actual outcome for the outpost to various settings on the cynicism meter, I would *strongly* insist that the doctor actually *succeed* in saving the life of their patient. Even if the whole outpost burns, they do achieve that victory. )
 
IMO Prometheus is the second best film in the franchise after the original.

Alien
Prometheus
Aliens
Alien vs Predator
Alien Resurrection
Alien Covenant
Alien III
Alien vs Predator Requiem

I am someone who really enjoyed Prometheus as well, I loved the ideas it explored and couldn't wait to get some answers in the next movie.

But then they turned that next movie into Covenant.
 
Wtf happened with Covenant? I never have wanted to revisit that movie. But it’s about time we got some new Alien stories. I love this world so much I would be totally down with them pumping out shows and movies as like the anti Star Wars. I’d watch everything they put out.
 
I guess I'm one of the very few who actually enjoyed Covenant more than Prometheus. :shrug: Though I don't think I'd call myself a fan of either of 'em.
 
Wtf happened with Covenant? I never have wanted to revisit that movie. But it’s about time we got some new Alien stories. I love this world so much I would be totally down with them pumping out shows and movies as like the anti Star Wars. I’d watch everything they put out.
On my most recent rewatch [Blank Check Patreon Commentaries], I came around hard on Covenant. It's pretty awesome.
 
They need to stick a damned fork in it already. When even Ridley Scott can’t figure out how to make a good Alien movie, it’s time to let it go.

I feel that given Scott's age, better to give it to someone younger with a good recent track record (he's clearly out of ideas at this point). Like Alex Garland, Leigh Whannell, Gareth Edwards, or even ideally Denis Villeneuve. Or I wouldn't mind James Wan to return it to its horror roots. I would've added Neill Blomkamp but not so sure about his previous Alien movie idea. :o Definitely feel that Garland or Whannell would come up with a unique and original idea for sure - might not be accessible to a wide audience, but when these movies are pretty niche anyway, I'd be game for whatever they'd come up with.
 

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